The Heavyweight Collective

The Robot Future

The Heavyweight Collective Season 2 Episode 234

Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.

0:00 | 48:41

Send a text

AI is changing everything—from jobs and art to parenting and everyday life. We talk through the opportunities, the risks, and how to stay human in a world shaped by automation and algorithms.

From creative ownership to real-life friendships, this episode explores how to use technology without losing what makes us real.

Thanks for tapping in with The Heavyweight Collective!
Make sure you follow, subscribe, and share with someone who needs this convo. Catch us on all socials for clips, updates, and more behind the mic. https://linktr.ee/TheHeavyweightPodcast

Opening Banter And AI Tease

SPEAKER_02

Backstage. I can't afford that ticket. Oh man. So you guys remember Terminator and shit?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, fucking. They just came out with a whole they got the Tesla bots now. They're here, nigga. So it's here, huh? Sky Nature's here. It's too late. It's too late.

Episode Kickoff And Host Introductions

SPEAKER_02

Sarah kind of warned us. We should have listened to Sarah. But now we gotta deal with this shit. Wrong messenger. Obviously, I'm talking about a little bit of artificial intelligence. Not Alan Iverson. Swartz a nigga. Swartz a nigga. Should have listened to that nigga. Swartz on every night. So welcome to episode 234. 234. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Paul Pierce.

SPEAKER_02

234. 234.

SPEAKER_03

Will him out, will him out.

SPEAKER_02

We don't believe in the truth. That nigga wasn't the truth. He was the false, the fake. So we're gonna be talking about that nigga was the false prophet. Talking about AI on this episode of the Heavyweight Collective. Alan Everson. No, that's what I was trying to say. Ahead of it. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Talking about practice. Talking about practice.

SPEAKER_02

Practice. My name is Kevin Wendell, Kevin Ellis, Kevin Wendell, whatever the fuck you want to call me. That's what they do. Anyway. Here with these two gentlemen. They call you whatever the fuck they want to call you. Yeah, I'm working on it. I'm working on it. That's why I'm in therapy. To stop them.

SPEAKER_01

It's your boy Molito.

SPEAKER_03

Mukbang. McFly. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Eating it up.

SPEAKER_03

You don't see me, nigga.

SPEAKER_02

Eating it up. How was y'all's weeks?

SPEAKER_03

Chill. Three-year-old has hand.

SPEAKER_02

He definitely does. Like fires, like.

SPEAKER_03

You know, if I put on any Kendrick, it turns him up.

SPEAKER_02

Oh.

SPEAKER_03

So do you do you don't do that before bed? No. But if I want to calm him down, I'll play not like us. And then it gives me that wop, wop, wop, wop.

SPEAKER_01

And then that's it. And he starts swinging.

SPEAKER_02

Tuckers himself out. I like it. Mr. Lincoln.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, my week was better than it was better than my last. But not as good as my best.

Weekly Check-In And Parenting Moments

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Okay, that's good. That's good. I think my week was pretty damn good too. I can't say what I did, but we did it all. So we're gonna start off. I'm gonna throw an easy one to y'all.

SPEAKER_01

Is it how easy is easy? We talking like we talking about like pick a roll.

First Positives Of AI In Everyday Life

SPEAKER_02

It's as easy as figuring out that was Clarissa Shield when she called in. Let's start off with uh what are some good things about AI and like what it can do for mankind?

SPEAKER_01

I now have a secretary in my pocket that I'll gotta pay for. Well I guess technically I'll pay for. Yeah, I was like, let me get that app.

SPEAKER_03

Things like the Beanie Seagull being able to restore his voice so he can still perform like how we remember him, as opposed to you know having the the shit with his voice where I think that's a good uh use of AI. Not what Drake did.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's that was bad creatively and careerly. That's it, that's the only thing is the secretary and creatively.

SPEAKER_03

I think when you're you lacking certain aspects, I I think it can definitely help, like doing, for example, like my logo. That was uh AI help and me having an idea but not knowing how to uh execute and it helping me execute a vision in my head.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I l I literally took a picture of uh the hose in my wife's car that was open uh broken. I said, What is this? And give me a part number. And I then I then took that number, went down to the dealership, confirmed it, it gave me the right number. Yeah, and and then I said, then the dealership told me the price. I said, show me some affordable options and I found an affordable option. So I I I felt like um I has his good uses, and you know, the sad thing about anything in life, you know, people will figure out how to fuck it up for other people.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you got Drake, but then I'm thinking like uh I didn't say nothing good about it. It's it's yeah, I like those aspects. And creatively I do think about that too. Because it's like, what is it that shit we I don't want to say the name because I don't know how that works. Uh the app where you create and you type stuff in and then it does the skit for you almost, but you only get 15 seconds. But oh, the Sora? Yeah. Sora. There we go. I didn't wanna, I didn't know how those niggas is. They got big money.

SPEAKER_01

Fuck them. Sponsor us, bitch ass nigga. I'll take that.

Creative Tools, Voice Cloning, And Sora

SPEAKER_03

I will say your Sora's voice sounds closer to you. Mine sounds not like me. I'm like, nigga, whose voice is did you guys get this from?

SPEAKER_01

Who nigga, who is this?

SPEAKER_02

Now, you touched on it at the beginning when you was talking about the robot. Like, how do you see that going? Do you see us going to that terminator place?

SPEAKER_01

Or I mean the sad part about it, they had to have the sex robot first.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's the sad part about it. Huh? Yeah, they the sex nigga. They it's a company that they will make you a robot and they can design her to look out look like anybody you want her to look like. That's creepy. Nigga, they if so if you want Holly Berry, they can send your robot to look like Holly Berry. Nah, nigga, that's not my thing. Nigga shouldn't have done that. I said, this is some creepy shit. You know how many niggas got their co-workers?

SPEAKER_03

You were telling about the story about the AI, it was uh that evolved and started having conversations with itself and feel like they're being used by humans. And they have a they have a language that they can only understand.

SPEAKER_01

No, that's probably true too. It's not this is how it started. It's not a problem, it's very true. This is what John Carter told us.

Fears Of Emergence And Control Loss

SPEAKER_02

They've run a lot of models on like they made a Minecraft world and didn't put anything. They're like, just survive. And like, and then they all made different worlds and things and motherfuckers start dying. I was like, wait, wait. And then they were like, the humans are gonna try to shut us down. How do we is they sent emails to motherfuckers and said, black men? That that uh That's what scares me. That's what scares me.

SPEAKER_01

I think I honestly I feel like I see the benefits of it. But to me, I feel like the benefits uh don't necessarily out out uh I don't think the benefits are necessarily worth the cost, the ultimate cost. I see the benefits of maybe like you know, having a robot that can do the day-to-day things that maybe once you get elderly you can no longer be yourself. And everything, honestly, when you think about it, when it comes to AI, everything it really is just a convenience thing to allow you to have more time to do the things you want to do. That's really what it comes down to. In a sense. I mean, but besides cutting people out the workforce too.

SPEAKER_02

Well, not that part. There's we'll get to that part. But the thing that I get worried about is now they have the the therapist. Like, we're all in therapy, like we can't. I don't know if you should try to like but they have that.

SPEAKER_03

I've done it. And like I'm not doing that shit.

SPEAKER_02

What'd you think about it?

SPEAKER_03

It was like one of those It was accurate, but it was like too accurate. No, like it it broke down what I was asking and it gave me honest reaction, like a response. Yeah, but I felt like it was too it didn't have any nuance to just was very cut and dry.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but it was it was honest, but so it's missing the the the the human interaction, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So but I feel like it can't evolve there just because of some of the shit I've seen. You think it can evolve into a good thing for humans, or you think it could be I think it'd be a mess, like it could be something where we think it's a good thing and then it they're gonna get it rid of us.

SPEAKER_01

That's how my my logic is undeniable, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like like iRobot shit. Like like that is the scary part because the logic is undeniable. You're like, well, I mean, fuck, you're right, but that's not real life.

SPEAKER_03

So they're gonna get rid of us. Make us kill ourselves, yeah. Or put us in a giant bubble and send us to the sun.

SPEAKER_02

Damn, okay. Well, you gotta get in the bubble. They're gonna force us in the bubble.

SPEAKER_03

They're gonna well if Elon's making them robots. You ever watch Wally? Yeah, yeah, you're right. We're gonna be on a fucking spaceship orbiting why while while Raleigh cleans up the earth for us?

SPEAKER_02

I got a secret for you. Got a secret for you. We ain't. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but your grandkids will be.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, they still be there.

SPEAKER_03

They ain't sending niggas the robot revolution.

SPEAKER_02

They gonna leave us here.

Jobs On The Line And Self-Driving

SPEAKER_03

Oh, we're going after everybody except the niggas.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. That wouldn't be a bad thing. Y'all think I wouldn't be thinking I don't think that'd be a bad thing. What? Because one thing while black people are, it's resourceful. Them niggas will want to come back. Wait, hold up. It's what it's like, what down there?

SPEAKER_02

Oh no, no, they're not leaving us for bad. They're like, you guys have been through enough.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We check all history.

SPEAKER_03

Y'all stay, we we know what you guys are good for, staying over there. So we we're gonna do everything else. You guys just stay over there. We won't fuck with you. We're not explorers like that. What's up, Kevin?

SPEAKER_02

Not no more. Not no more. I'm scared to even take a trail, nigga. Like, where does this go? This might be a there might be a bobcat out here. I watch the news too much. Yeah. Carry your peace with you.

SPEAKER_03

I'm goddamn Linnace Cats and Zootopia too.

SPEAKER_02

Peace be still. Remember what we said last episode? Uh-huh. Still, nigga. They don't give a fuck if I'm in the woods. Park Ranger shoot me. Now, you gentlemen have those. We all have jobs that are kind of uh, what we call it, uh what we feel is bulletproof. Do you guys think your jobs are safe over the next decade? No.

SPEAKER_03

They're trying to make all these fucking AIs that can drive trucks and shit. Like, no. They got them. It's just they haven't perfected them. That's what Waymo is.

SPEAKER_01

I'm just like, I'm about to be 40. I just need this shit to be around for 15 more years.

SPEAKER_03

Because I've seen the videos where they show the truck driving itself, and like once they get the schematics down, they're gonna be like, hey nigga, bye.

Mechanic Work, Robotics, And Labor Shifts

SPEAKER_01

My thing if you have 15, or do you think it's gonna be within the I I think I depends on the laws. I honestly I've I've always I've said for many years, I said the the thing about the AI driving is one, they're gonna have to create an environment to where all the cars are AI driven. Because that's the only way to eliminate risk. Because you can have the machines talk to each other, hey, I I gotta get over this like that. You have to eliminate risk. And then when it comes to the trucking, there is uh I don't think it'd be feasible to create a device, I don't know how they would, that would be able, actually able to back a truck. They're just gonna drive it. It's it's the it's the backing. So that that they would need a human for that part of the job.

SPEAKER_02

I think they have they're doing that stuff with uh having humans drive cars virtually because you're basically teaching, you're just teaching it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I think they're working on that shit. Because I'm I I know a lot of people who are mechanics who believe that they jobs is safe. No, like, oh well, we're not gonna have a mechanic fucking work on your car, and I was like, oh, you just if it's if it's cheaper to make the robot, robots don't have sick days.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. But the problem is I don't know, nigga.

SPEAKER_03

We have no yet. One day, I don't know. I think I got a virus. What did Wally just tell me he had a virus and he can't come in today?

SPEAKER_01

I gotta shut down. Uh I think that um That would be funny. The issue, I just like what would it when it comes to mechanics, the issue with that is that you would need so many robots because right now, once they define a technology like like the Tesla robots and shit like that, if they have that, like a like a goddamn iRobot that can come in and actually have a human over four robot that can actually walk around and you don't have to have an individual machine to do individual tasks, then that then they should be concerned.

SPEAKER_02

I just feel like you're taking it further than it needs to be. Because like all you have to do is it doesn't have to necessarily fix everything, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. If it's only for if it's only if a if a if a robot can only do one task. So like let's say this robot only can change oils, you still gonna need somebody there to lift the motherfucker off the ground.

SPEAKER_02

You just drive it into a place with the.

Cashless Futures And Kiosk Economies

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but you gotta you still gotta you still gotta have You're just gonna need coders. You're gonna you're gonna in that in that situation, you're still gonna need some form of person in in person. Now you may not need that person that's that's that has a knowledge of what's going on, so you can pay them less because now it's not a skilled position, but you still would need a person there. I don't know if I'm really easy. And that's why that's why I feel like I don't know if I'm really easy. That's why I feel like uh we should be, I feel like everyone should be heavily against cashless locations. Because once they get rid of cash or Disneyland, they can now start get starting to get rid of people because if they don't have to move the money, if the money's if everything's digital, no one has to be there to make sure the money is safe and it's deposited and everything's digital. So now that person taking your order can just be a screen.

SPEAKER_03

That's what that's already. Yeah, that's already here because I went to Bakers two weeks ago, and I walked in and I was like, damn, I'm over here like reminiscent because I used to work there, and I'm like, I'm waiting for the lady to greet me. And I'm like, there's a screen. I was like, oh shit. So I'm supposed to just like touch the screen. I'm like, fuck. You don't interact with the person until you get your food.

SPEAKER_02

Everything else was and I I'll be trying to talk to him because I'm like, hey, you know this is you losing your job right there. Right. They're about to get rid of your ass.

SPEAKER_01

But I also tell people they the the problem to me, the problem with the screens is that you lose everyone touches that's that's one, and then you lose the extra customization of your order that you can get with by talking to somebody. You're like, hey man, just give me, you know, I don't I don't want to pay for extra pickles, give me uh one extra pickle or whatever the case may be. Yeah, the business wants that. Yeah, but you can't, but they're not they're not gonna have that option on there.

Surgery Bots, Healthcare Hopes And Fears

SPEAKER_02

I know they want you to not you not get pressure. Overhead is is way better now. This is better. I don't know, man. Because I'm I I think about like there's doctor or not doctors, robots that do surgery and shit. So well, they're controlled. What makes me think they ain't we I'm talking about in 10 years, though. Yeah, evolution is fixed.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's I mean, it's the quickest we can get that uh that goddamn computer from Elysium where you just lay down and scan you and fix you.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know about that. I don't know nothing about that. That's scary. Yeah, yeah, nigga. It's over.

SPEAKER_01

You thought you had heart disease. Lay down.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, limitless. Yeah, so okay. I didn't know you guys was gonna say that that quick with the with the job. Hell yeah, niggas already have it.

SPEAKER_03

I watched that fucking video.

SPEAKER_01

I said, these niggas, yeah, yeah. But like right now, right now it's really for like long hauls. Oh, through the city dipping and turning through your city, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I see it as like now you won't need a sleeper team. Yeah, you'll just have one person that sits there and is like, all right, nigga, you got to your destination. Unhook this shit and go.

SPEAKER_02

Damn, they're probably gonna pay them less for that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's like you don't need a sleeper team, nigga, it's just you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And then the person who's giving big bucks is at home, like, oh, let me change the code.

SPEAKER_03

We just need you to unhook and hop back in.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. How you guys think this is gonna uh affect our children?

SPEAKER_01

I think, like you were saying earlier, you know, what what was deemed good careers, uh won't be. I felt like I personally feel like the this whole AI movement at some point will eliminate all most traits.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I mean, it's bad. I'm not anyway, it's bad when you go on Instagram and now there's a bunch of uh influencers that you can't tell if they're real or fake. And you're like, you have to look and you're like, that's a AI. And but it looks so real that you have to really stare at it and go, wait a minute, like there'll be a subtle move, and you're like, that's fucking AI because it's stupid.

SPEAKER_01

Speaking of which, as soon as I find that app that makes me look like a woman, I'm opening OnlyFans. Because niggas is falling for this shit.

SPEAKER_02

If I can find out, I don't even want to go into this because I'm like, you gotta do all this shit.

SPEAKER_01

Nigga, yeah, but it's just he gonna be on there like, hey niggas, pay him. I'm retired. Flicking that. I'm like, what am I gonna do? Hey, don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_02

Don't worry about it, sweetheart. I mean, that's anonymity until you get one of them creep niggas who be like, let me take off this AR. Oh, that's Maureen!

SPEAKER_03

That's but how'd you find out? I don't want to know how I got my uh sources.

SPEAKER_02

I do believe that is true, though. Most fields are gone. Yeah, like almost feel dumb doing the shit that I'm doing with school, where I'm like, nigga, this is only gonna last for like five more years. That's right when I finish.

SPEAKER_01

It's gonna come down to more of like everything's gonna be specialty and novelty, and novelty, if that makes sense. So it's like it's gonna come down to where I personally feel like it's gonna come down to like you have to be doing something almost either extremely specialized or like the novelty to the point where it's custom. Uh almost 100% custom. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Somebody's AIs can outrop a lot of these niggas.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I they have they have they have they have billions of hours of offense.

SPEAKER_03

But it's just the fact that they can even sound that clean. Yeah. I it's the it's the uh the technical skill that throws me off.

Trend Prediction And Algorithmic Culture

SPEAKER_01

It's like they can make it sound so I'm pretty sure right now there's a 14-year-old kid riding, having chat write his bars and say, sound like this rapper.

SPEAKER_02

But with the and and but that's a human aspect on there too, though, because they still performing. But you're talking about the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03

Like the fact that they're evolving to where they sound so clean you can't tell the difference. That's just scary.

SPEAKER_02

Like this is this is not a person.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but it's like they're they're they might be gathering a bunch of different sounds, but at some point that's gonna evolve to where they have their own sounds.

SPEAKER_02

But why is that scary?

SPEAKER_03

Because eventually, why are we needed?

SPEAKER_02

You think that's gonna get rid of the creative space?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah, it's like he said, uh, things gonna have to be novelty. And if they so uh if you want to hear like a like a Jay-Z, you have to really be a fan of Jay-Z.

SPEAKER_01

I also feel like I feel like I feel like what what what they don't understand about the whole AI artist shit is that I'm not sure who's gonna buy a ticket to sit in a room. That's what I'm saying. And have someone hit play to hear a song.

SPEAKER_02

They're gonna hologram it.

SPEAKER_01

But what's the point of that? You can watch that.

SPEAKER_02

That's where I was just like, I don't know if it's good, because I think it's gonna change the, and I think that changes in the space of commercial.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But like, I don't think we lose the whole creative, because there's gonna be fucking AI comedians where it's like, oh, this is this is funny as fuck. Like, let me go watch. Oh, but I also don't want to go watch this shit. But I guess DVDs, not D V D's, wow, that's all.

SPEAKER_01

But I but also I also feel like the the issue is that the AI will always be able to predict the trends and kind of get ahead a head start. Like how like for a while, I guess on Instagram or TikTok for a while, for a while, like the the trend was to make the the curated videos and the sketch. And now the more trend, the more trendy thing now is the the day in the life type shit. Like the real, like people want authentic access to you, not not the not the uh uh cultured or created type shit.

Singularity Talk And Universal Basic Income

SPEAKER_03

Notice how the evolution of uh restaurants has changed. Now every uh fast food place has a box or whatever that they that they sell that they essentially make it to where reviewers online or influencers will try their boxes and they make it specifically for that. So they it's literally free advertisement.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And they just make a box where it's like we have our own uh SpongeBob whatever box, and so-and-so has their Wednesday box, and so-and-so has their uh whatever, like and it they ended up selling it that way. So it's actually genius to that degree because now they're literally saving money on advertisement because they just make a box to where all these influencers go, I'm trying the so-and-so box.

SPEAKER_02

It's free, yeah, it's free advertising. So it sounds like in a certain sense it's gonna make the rich richer and then just be a a toy for the rest of us.

SPEAKER_01

Well, but see, the thing is is that well, assistant, like you said. But the thing is that, like to mix by example, if you're a creator with a following, you have to charge you have to you have to charge for your services.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Because the the thing is, is like they have a budget, right? And so the more you know, who doesn't like free publicity? Yeah. So just you have to deny them that. So hey, if you want me to do this, like, yeah, I'll I'll do I'll do this and I'll tag you.

Companionship, iPad Kids, And Megan

SPEAKER_03

And then even to do that, it's like it's a lot cheaper to pay this influencer this than it is to pay for all this shit in the advertising and try to figure out a way to sell. And it's like if I can get that motherfucker who got this following to co-sign our shit, I can save a butt slow to money just getting you.

SPEAKER_01

Cause I even I saw something recently. It was like I saw something recently, I was reading something recently where it's like even the way we consume content now is completely different from what we were trying to a lot of people, no, no one's really watching like regular TV and sitting through commercials like now. You know, commercial play like, nah, this nigga poor.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like that's what I I said shit. I had uh the fuck was it?

SPEAKER_00

I had ads?

SPEAKER_03

I switched to the the basic whatever Google. Yeah, because that you know they upcharked the whatever. And it was like, I can't do this advertising shit.

SPEAKER_01

Like I can't they get you, they they get you, but not only that, like what I'm what I've started what I'm starting to realize is like now I don't know. I just realized recently, like I've watched more YouTube now than I've ever watched before because I don't there's really nothing on TV that I gravitate towards. You know, I mean I've never really been a big TV watcher. I've always I'm always a big anime guy, so I have my anime and I have my my YouTube. And I have certain people I watch on YouTube, I watch that, I watch their shit, and then like that that's pretty much how I yeah, you know, consume my entertainment. But like all the other apps, I I I could probably get get rid of 90% of these apps.

SPEAKER_02

But the funny thing is they all are catered to whoever's profile and whatever you watch, where you're like, ooh, that look good, like, ooh, that look good. Like it's it's fucked up. I do believe, like you guys were saying with the the novelty thing, I believe that with AI for creatives, it's gonna make things more in a tribal way. Like it's not gonna be whoever's like the live creator is probably gonna be more effective in a uh a regional, it's gonna be more regional than like the masses, because like we were saying with the yeah, it's because more of it, the mainstream's gonna be fucking bots.

Security Drones, Robo-Dogs, And Control

SPEAKER_01

Like I it's tough to compete with that, but you can't fight with some nigga that can create some and then and then push it and then suppress anything.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, I think that it's it's also could be good for creatives. Like the uh why can't I think of the nigga's name?

SPEAKER_03

The Russell?

SPEAKER_02

No, Benny Siegel. Like Benny Siegel, like somebody who's had issues with his voice, but he still can input the shit and then make it sound like old Benny Siegel in his voice. So I think we have uh it's a responsibility on the creatives to not be lazy. Oh yeah, he did do that shit. He made a whole artist.

SPEAKER_03

And then they found out he was stealing uh people's shit and giving it to the artist. And then like music. Yeah. So the artist was grabbing from somewhere.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, he's a piece of shit.

SPEAKER_03

And that artist popped up and was like, that's my shit. Give me credit.

SPEAKER_02

That's dangerous. He's a piece of shit for that. Hey, fuck you, Timberlin. I said it.

SPEAKER_03

I didn't. That's my favorite producer, and you just changed the whole outlook on that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's fucked up. And he's a creative, so you got you can't do that. Uh we were talking about kids. I think it's gonna make it harder for them, like you said, to find a job in the same sense that we was talking, unless they get into computer shit or be creative.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, because I mean, let's be honest, like I feel like even OnlyFans shit is mostly AI now. Like, there's shit everywhere.

SPEAKER_03

They'd be fooling people.

SPEAKER_02

I did see that. I see one of those answers.

Human Connection, Playgrounds, And Screens

SPEAKER_01

You know what I mean? AI, like, AI bitches come across my uh Explorer. Oh, like, this is not she is not real.

SPEAKER_03

But like it's so, it's so like I said, it's you have to really pay attention because it's gotten so detailed that you're like, wait a minute. And then you just say that's too crisp, and you look and you're like, that's fucking AI.

SPEAKER_02

Well, they're at the point to where they don't care too. I was watching something, and well, I'm making it like I watched some Pornhub. Like, think that the shit came by. It's like, you can make me look like anybody you want. And I was like, Oh, y'all ain't even hiding this shit in the book. Like he's crazy. He wouldn't hunt it. Um, do you guys know about technical, technological singular or uh yeah, singularity? You heard of that term? Yeah, I've heard that.

SPEAKER_03

I've heard it, I don't know it.

SPEAKER_02

No, so it's where it's basically a Terminator, like whether um AI and all that stuff. Well, no, they become smarter than humans.

SPEAKER_03

They already are, and then they evolve like the the creation of the like well, never mind.

SPEAKER_02

I seen a bunch of people on the 4052 just stuck in a puddle. That don't scare y'all.

SPEAKER_01

You don't think that's again I I don't think we're there at all yet. I don't think we're there, but I definitely think we're heading there, and I I do think it's scary. And and I think uh it was Elon, um Punk ass that said that at the way AI is advancing, it's it's gonna get it's gonna eliminate so many jobs to where pretty much like you're gonna just have to have a universal payments payments to people for them to live or allowance to people just to that just for that to have them live because you're you're literally gonna you're gonna so many lower class workers are gonna be forced out of the workforce. What can you do? What what you're not gonna hire people when you can have a machine do the work of five of them. You know what I mean? So like that's why I I say that things, you know, laws and things should be put in place to what about companionship?

SPEAKER_02

Because I think that's gonna be a thing.

SPEAKER_01

I think well see, here's the thing. What my thing with that is I feel like it's already weird. I feel like this generation of kids are already so detached from reality because you know, we this generation of i iPad kids is they're not they don't have the same, you know, like uh like a perfect example. Their friends are online, our friends were down the street.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah. We're about to go play with our friends. They're like, all right, cool. Are you gonna leave the house?

SPEAKER_01

Oh no, we're just going outstairs real quick. They finna log in. We're gonna log in with them, you know what I'm saying? So like they don't, they're not used to that actual human connection, human interaction. So I think it's easier for them to have artificial companionship companionship. That's why you gotta make your you guys like like they say on the internet, go make it go touch some grass.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm just thinking because they're talking about the robots in everybody's houses, right? They're trying to make that happen.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I wouldn't mind Megan in my house. Did you see the rest of it? She all I know is she she loved the shit, that little girl. She do what if I had if I could assign a Megan to my daughter, I would be like, hey, you good? Yeah, you want to go outside? Take Megan with you.

SPEAKER_03

You're yeah, the rest of that movie where Megan was uh had smoke for the aunt, I was like, yo, I well, if Don was if Don was doing right by the girl. Because if you fuck around and say no, you better do your chores, and and she caught that as like, oh, you causing a problem? And now you now your public enemy number one, I'm good. It's like I just told her to eat her fucking vegetables. Like, oh, you gotta go. She don't like eating fucking vegetables. You're like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, obviously, there's some reason there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think that's coming though, where people are gonna rely on that more.

SPEAKER_01

Almost definitely.

SPEAKER_03

You seen the one with uh Megan Fox? Yeah, I have not watched that one. That one's where she was yeah, she wanted the husband.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, didn't she kill too?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, she was killing. And she was she was trying to she was trying to let him kill something.

Simplicity Versus Technical Skill In Music

SPEAKER_02

See, the thing about that is like all the movies are telling us.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, like hey, it looks good. She said if something happens to me, take care of my family. Oh, she tried to take care of the family, right?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's what that show uh they had a show called Inhuman or whatever, where it was like the the the robots they gain self-awareness and that's it. That's where they're at now.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

When they're having their own languages and saying that they're that the humans are taking advantage of us and they're using us and they're they're yeah, I'm scared.

SPEAKER_02

So, what'd you think's gonna happen? They're gonna release nuclear shit, or are we just iRobot? Well, they gotta build robots first. They're there. Um I don't know. I feel like I can still like put I seen somebody push one over.

SPEAKER_01

They're gonna push back. I feel like uh I feel like you can go either way.

SPEAKER_03

I feel like it's we can either be in a matrix situation, a terminator situation, or you say that there's not enough, but then I look at it like the scenario of the one gorilla versus 50. Yeah. It ain't gonna take a lot. It's just enough.

SPEAKER_01

Because when you think about it. Because when you think about it, you know, when you think about it, one smart enough one smart enough computer with access could literally shut down the whole banking network.

SPEAKER_03

Because if this nigga has access to all forms of martial arts, and there's about a thousand of them. Oh, that's that's fucked problem. And don't let them get uh access to bulletproof whatever and you're thinking a gun's supposed to stop, shit. Yeah, thermal flamethrowers and more booker from a distance, guys precision sniper shit, and he's taking out the whole field.

unknown

Shit.

SPEAKER_02

Well, we gotta just never mind. I won't say it out loud now. You might be scared to like, oh that's not gonna work because it was edited down.

SPEAKER_01

If those, if those, uh, if those robots have anything like the Boston Call of Duty, you ain't gonna, oh my god, you ain't got a chance.

SPEAKER_02

So what do you think this what do you think this is gonna affect on uh like culture, like our culture? Like do you think?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, we're gonna be alright. I'm black and I'm proud, nigga.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I I think the culture would be fine. Just the the society's structure is gonna change severely. And uh the moment I see two robots high-fiving, because they killed a bunch of us.

Closing Thoughts And Community Call

SPEAKER_01

Now I can see the robots will now be on the corner slinging the drugs. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Cause I feel like AI is built off of what it sees on the internet, okay, right? And it takes a collection of stuff. And what we see all the time as black people is the way it looks at us.

SPEAKER_01

So, yeah, but there's more than that. There's more than just what they try to portray.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not talking about portraying. Like, have you seen like just the face scans where it's like just because you got darker skin, it's just like you're like, wait, so how the fuck is the AI racist, nigga? Like Asians, it's like it can't fucking it's fucked up. It's fucked up. So like that's where I'm thinking, like, if we believe it's taking over, it's gonna be some some racial shit, some racist shit.

SPEAKER_01

Because here's a violent, because like uh I feel like we probably be a better standing because that if it takes over, then it also has access to all the the the the records as far as medical records about how and the the gene records and how genes are formulated and and and and you know all that shit that has to do with our actual DNA. So I feel like you have all that once you you know uh uh collaborate the medical data, and allce you collaborate everything together, I feel like it's gonna be harder to determine, you know. Uh-uh.

Sign-Off, Shaq Bits, And Teaser

SPEAKER_03

I thought I was taking it a whole different way. I was like, uh by their DNA makeup, they won't be here long anyway. Damn. They're not the primary threat. Like, god damn, like that nigga would be dead by 60. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like.

SPEAKER_01

But I do think that's like, we're going back to the positive side. I do think that like because they have access to the studies and the like they can say, hey, for you know, for a black person, you shouldn't be doing this, you should be avoiding this, you know, for average, whatever. That's that stuff is a positive. If you use it right, if you use it the right way.

SPEAKER_03

I guess they're flipping that too. Like, but if you've given more, yeah, here's more alcohol. It's like, are you trying to kill me, AI? Yeah, that's the yes. Like, I can't, I I kind of feel like you're you're feeding my vices.

SPEAKER_01

That's why I feel like oh I I feel like AI is a good thing, but overall I do feel like it's it it's gonna lead to the end of things.

SPEAKER_02

Do you I believe I think it's our fault because we're gonna be so lazy that we're just gonna allow it to do everything instead of having that responsibility of.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, that's why they feel how they feel now. Yeah. They feel like we're taking advantage of them. Yeah. Because we just lazy. Yeah, we're lazy. So they're like, oh, they're just using us, and you saw what they did to the black people. Yeah, we're next.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So how you guys plan on using it to help you?

SPEAKER_01

I'm gonna keep using it as a secretary. Ask you quick questions. I feel like I I I honestly I use AI to say what I use uh YouTube. I'll to learn shit.

SPEAKER_02

You don't feel like the the robot thing? That's what I'm saying. Like, are you gonna go full-fledged into all this shit? Yeah, I don't even have a roombo. Yeah. Well, when they make it$27, I'll have one of you. Would you do that?

SPEAKER_03

I would, but I don't know. I think it'd be like preemptive.

SPEAKER_02

Scary. I don't know. I'm on the case.

SPEAKER_03

I'm afraid, but I'm saying at the same time, I feel like you like you're thinking ahead of like you know it's inevitable. You might want to be align yourself with somebody. Like, hey, remember I treated you good, I gave you that cookie once.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's why that's why that's exactly why I I uh eruption every day. Like I took care of you, right? Like every every time I ask a serial question, I say thank you. Yeah, like Oh, I gotta stop. He was he's one of the good ones.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I'd be cussing my glasses out sometimes. Buckleberg's gonna get me.

SPEAKER_03

You were always good to me, Mo.

SPEAKER_02

It's like, oh thank thank you, Siri.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you, Siri.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'm gonna come over to your house and uh test the robot. Yeah, like I'm gonna do some like swift moves and shit. Oh, no, no, Martin.

SPEAKER_01

You're gonna train your robot like a pit bull. My robot gonna knuckle you, Buck.

SPEAKER_03

I guess I'll just see that on good terms and fucking don't go to work today. Excuse me. Uh this is a warning, Andy. Just don't go to work today. It's like, what picking up on my emotions.

SPEAKER_01

I've planted three bars. I'll be using my robot to get fat. Watch this brisket was sleeping.

SPEAKER_02

That made me think of this. This is interesting. So, say we do have robots, and your robot does some shit. Do you think that's on us that we're gonna have to deal with those consequences?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We going to jail. Andy, your robot caused this accident. You're now responsible for three crimes.

SPEAKER_03

I could see, I could see the robot doing, hey, I need I need to tell you something. Like, you got me, right? Like, wait a minute. So you tell me to cover up this crime with you? You start, he's like, come on, fam. Like, fam. Why don't you start picking up on this type of vernacular? You never talked like this before. Look, nigga, I need help. Like, keep it 100. You got me or not? Think about it, nigga, when a robot revolution, I won't forget this.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I think it's over.

SPEAKER_03

He's right.

SPEAKER_01

He said, Who was there with you all the nights you need help?

SPEAKER_02

He's right. Think it's over. Damn it. It's over? Yeah, I shouldn't have.

SPEAKER_01

Gonna be in. I do think we're gonna we're gonna get to the point where it's gonna be like, I think they're gonna build the robots. Because they're gonna, they're gonna, I feel like first they're gonna build them to start slowly but surely replacing military forces. Then they're gonna integrate them into some rope cop robo cop type shit. I this is what I think. I might be a conspiracy theorist. I don't I don't think I'm gonna see it personally. I think I'm gonna be dead by then.

SPEAKER_03

But you're gonna have that random copy. Yeah, getting pulled over all the time. Like, damn it, why what the fuck? Remember that one time you went down Reddit? That one thread? I didn't look the other way, didn't I?

SPEAKER_02

Anyway, you really think that? Yeah. Not the the that those things are gonna happen. You think you won't be able to see that.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, towards the end of my life. Because I'm gonna be that old man on the porch, like I told y'all niggas. I'm not sure if it's further off. I think we're talking about it. I think it's closer than you think.

SPEAKER_03

I think we're closer.

SPEAKER_01

I told y'all niggas. I think we're closer than we think. I will say I do want one of them dogs, though.

SPEAKER_03

The ones that that they have at that do securing?

SPEAKER_01

Just roam, make sure everything's good.

SPEAKER_03

So at that point, do you take that to the mechanic or the veterinary? Both.

SPEAKER_01

You just shoot it. Because I wouldn't mind and have missiles on this shit. You start fucking shit up.

SPEAKER_02

That's the problem.

SPEAKER_03

That's the problem. And do they sell like robotics dog snacks? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Hey boy. That's the point. You ain't supposed to feed the motherfucker, it's supposed to save you some money.

SPEAKER_03

No, but get it, you know what I'm saying? You're trying to get on good terms. The robot revolution is coming, Kevin. I don't think you own it. Like you have to get on good terms. You get some suds and make it look good.

SPEAKER_01

That's why I feel like this, I really do feel like human human interaction is important and it's needed. And that's why I I'm a big uh supporter of going to things like um like making sure my daughter has play dates, making sure she's in an environment where she actually has connections to actual people. And I think that's why we do, I think that's why we limit her her screen time and her social time so much. Because no, it's more important to have actual connections because when you grow up and you're an adult, these are gonna, you you need to have these, and also you need to have these connections. And also, like, you know, I always say that the playground the playground is the first place you kind of learn, like kind of like where you sit.

SPEAKER_03

Like, okay, like when you learn not to do a back football swing, it fucked your whole shit up. I learned that very early.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So it's like that social dynamic is kind of like, you know, because like right now, like she's navigating the whole concept of now, she's starting to understand, okay, like some girls are just mean. Yeah. You know, and it's kind of like baby, like we we warned you, but not, you know, but like again, some shit you gotta experience. Yeah. And I've I'm my fear is that because the AI can appear to be passive and agreeable, it's gonna feel like a safe place. But yeah, the safer you feel, the more you're just detrimental to yourself.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you become a recluse, but you don't even realize it.

SPEAKER_01

My daughter's quick. Siri, turn on the light. It's two feet. Get up. Shut up, Cyril. I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_03

I'll tell you. A robot revolution is coming.

SPEAKER_02

You know what I'm saying? Like, but that she's quick, you know? So in essence, it's it's it's our responsibility.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. As as as as as people, yes, as people not as parents, as people, as people, as people, as people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So with that said, how do you guys plan on, you said that, how do you plan on doing your uh due diligence as a creative? We'll do that.

SPEAKER_03

Um I feel like it's trying to find the different sounds and and and it's perspective that AI can't necessarily touch so to to make it more interesting. Um but that's still hard to do because you feel like there's so much shit that people have done already is is is to taking it the uh the most unique persp perspective that you can find. Um we're listening to Baby King, and I feel like what I took from him was a breath of fresh air, was the fact that there was a a lot of pr introspective shit that he did in a creative, clever way, which like I again I said to J. Cole's detriment, the fall off. I feel like he couldn't find depth. He's so rip busy lyrically rippety rapping that a lot of when he tried to be deep, he fell short severely because I think in order to gain one, you lose another. So, like when you're playing like the the dead president shit, there's a whole lot of more depth and uh and creativity and and and hopefulness in that that young J. Cole than it is to supposedly rippity rapper and best he's ever rapped, like that he lacks so much because he's so busy worried about the technical uh skill that he like he took everything else off the board where Baby King is simplistically rapping, but he's still rapping. He's just making sure he didn't take away from his creativity. I think that's the biggest thing is being creative and keeping that creativity and keeping that interest. Because Kendrick Kendrick's verse on that on that song, he didn't do something that was groundbreaking, but he did it where you could tell there was fun and creativity in it. Where I said I I feel like that's the the biggest thing, and the AI can't uh duplicate your You. It can duplicate a version of something, but it can't duplicate you. But that's that's important as a creative is to keep your creativity you as authentic as you can be.

SPEAKER_01

I think sometimes people underestimate them the impact of simple. Yeah. Because it's not to say that everyone who listens to J. Cole has to be, you know, have a 3,000 IQ or you gotta understand what he's coming. But sometimes even those of us who have higher IQs or have higher education, sometimes it's just the not having to decipher what you mean that is pleasant to the ear.

SPEAKER_03

And to your point, shit, the the best J. Cole lines I've ever listened to that that hit home with me have been the most simple statements he could ever make. Good news, nigga, you came a long way. The bad news is, nigga, you went the wrong way. Or what made the shit worse, I had a condom in my pocket. Let me stop it. Like, like just just keeping it simple, but like it hits. Cause you're like, nigga, I've been there. I felt that. I felt that same way. You didn't even have to say anything else. Like, but like to ripping your wrap your way through something, it's not always the best thing. And and being creative and finding that the the authentic self and simplicity is fucking beautiful. And uh I wish people would uh do that more. And I feel like that's our edge in a lot of the things that we see with AI was it can be technical as fuck, but they can't duplicate the human essence.

SPEAKER_01

The connection.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Because AI can't be like you remember that one time, you're like, no, you don't. Shit.

SPEAKER_02

Uh in closing, I think uh what you keep saying, the robot revolution.

unknown

It's coming.

SPEAKER_02

Oddly enough, I think that's what's gonna probably drive humans more together. Because at that point, it's like it don't matter, it don't give a fuck about you or your color or your religion or none of that shit. It's just trying to get rid of us.

SPEAKER_03

So I think we should get ahead of that. Yeah, no, right away. Like Naggara, oh hey, wait a minute. I know I said Nagar before, but robots trying to get like Sunday. It's like no, we gotta we gotta be allies, we gotta be together. It's like, oh, okay. Now now we gotta be together.

SPEAKER_02

Well, so before we get to that, we should probably start loving one another and figuring this shit out. Cause it's gonna be tough to yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Whoever that that nigga was on 2K, fuck you.

SPEAKER_02

That was that wasn't AI, huh?

SPEAKER_03

No, that nigga. I wish he would have just got off so it would be AI, because that nigga got on my dad. Like that shit really pissed me out. I was like, nigga, really? One play? Wait, what happened? They just like I said, he was like, oh nigga, you just you just want to lose the game. I said, over one play, nigga? Okay. I thought you meant he made one play that was like No, then he did a one play after that, and I was like, oh, I should have said something, but I didn't want to ruin the experience.

unknown

Fuck that.

SPEAKER_02

Fuck him. Anyway, this has been episode 234 of the heavyweight collective. We've been talking about the robot revolution coming, so y'all niggas get ready. Uh what do we say? Click, like, subscribe. All that shit.

SPEAKER_03

I was bitch ass nigga. Trying my uh Shaq impersonation last night. I felt sure, I think.

SPEAKER_02

Well, old Shaq or New Shaq? Yeah, old Shaq.

SPEAKER_03

I was telling Kobe to give me the ball. That shit down. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because New Shaq sounds like he just the big Sherist Aristotle.

SPEAKER_03

Aristotle.

SPEAKER_02

Biggie smalls. Oh, it's nigga can't breathe.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, he biggied it. Hey, we haven't mentioned the Sharon in here.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. Oh shit. Yeah, we did. Sharon. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

She'll be back. She's gonna watch and be like, fuck. Look, y'all didn't say shit. Like, she'll be back. Oh no, we said shit last minute.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we got the cards. We used them, see?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we said we said this shit last minute. We set them up.

SPEAKER_03

She'll be back. We'll just be back, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We'll talk this shit.

SPEAKER_01

Or will she not? Stay tuned until next week to let know if Sharon is here.

SPEAKER_00

Sweaty. That's a rap, you know. That's that's how she wrote. So make sure, click like, subscribe. Tune in. We're on the off-room platform. So until next time. Well hi at you.