The Heavyweight Podcast
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The Heavyweight Podcast
Freestyles and Fatherhood
We close the year with Raytron (aka Stutter McFly) for a heartfelt convo about music, fatherhood, grief, and growth. From Bone Thugs influences to therapy and gym resets, we cover what it means to keep showing up and stay independent in both life and art.
We also talk about top 5 rappers, creative burnout, and the importance of building momentum that lasts. If you're chasing purpose without selling your peace, this one's for you.
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Welcome to the Heavyweight Podcast.
SPEAKER_00:The message behind saying the title of the Heavyweight Podcast is to be able to say that we can we can weigh in some heavy shit. What we're talking about is important from every aspect of it. It's a heavy weight. It's not just about physical weight, but the weight of things that that can weigh our minds. So I think it's dope that we can have this conversation.
SPEAKER_02:Trying.
SPEAKER_03:1110? Yeah. 1110 to Yuma. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. I guess we'll just start. I guess, nigga. Nigga, you the one that said you're welcome. You're taking creative direction this week. Okay. I mean, uh, not direction. God damn, what's the word I'm looking for? Control. Control. That's right. Creative control. I did. Nigga must be tired. I am. Welcome, everybody, to the heavyweight podcast. This is your host, Kevin Wendell, for the day. Maybe the year, because it's the last, the last episode of the year. See what I did there? That was a good one, huh? That was a good one. That was a good one. I thought you were just copying the intro from Apple from the actual episode. Do you see this? This was me. I was about to get excited, but so excited. Anywho, this is a special episode for all of us.
SPEAKER_04:Are you done? Oh.
SPEAKER_03:That's not how you how am I gonna be done on the intro?
SPEAKER_04:So excited.
SPEAKER_03:He's so excited, people. This is a very special episode for all of us. I'll let you guys introduce yourselves first before we get into the festivities. It ain't about me today. No, but we're gonna get you guys out of the way. So you want my legal name or my government name? What you going by today?
SPEAKER_01:I'm Sharon. She says, Stop bullshit.
SPEAKER_03:Is that your legal name or your government name?
SPEAKER_01:That is my government.
SPEAKER_03:How about the same thing? Shouldn't your legal name be your government? Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_01:All right.
SPEAKER_03:Well, this that's Mother Grouch. Mother Grouch, y'all know him. So just call me the tired father. He forgot.
SPEAKER_01:In that case, I'm the fat ass mama.
SPEAKER_00:It's debatable. Name. Yeah, no, my government is. I to tell you what the R it stands for, which is still but it's still legal. It gets me out of the race for jobs.
SPEAKER_02:No, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That's definitely so stupid. That's true.
SPEAKER_00:They see Ray Tron and be like, mm-mm.
SPEAKER_03:How do you think I feel? My name sounds my name's my name sounds irregular. Yeah, until you see the spelling, like, yeah, that's a black. That's a nigga.
SPEAKER_04:That's a nigga there.
SPEAKER_00:He's black. Oh, yeah. Take him out of the running.
SPEAKER_01:Take him out of the running.
SPEAKER_02:Very quite. It is. Kevin Ellis. How are you?
SPEAKER_01:I'm glad to meet you there.
SPEAKER_03:You're definitely getting an interview. I usually do, and then I don't get the job. But that's that's my job. Yeah, I get a chance that way. That's how I got the last job at Knott's. But Merry Christmas, everybody. This is a Christmas episode here. Happy New Year. I love that. Oh, yeah. Happy New Year. Well, I'm coming talk to y'all then. So this is uh our episode 227. Dwayne Wayne. Y'all know who Dwayne Wayne is. If you don't know, then you shouldn't be able to do that. Shout out to Jack Culture.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it don't matter. It's all the same, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:He thinks about different strokes. Jack Kay.
SPEAKER_01:That's not different Dwayne and Whitley. Jack K was on 227. Yeah, but they all messed up.
SPEAKER_03:Remember the show's cross. Oh, anyway.
SPEAKER_00:We're talking old shit. He's Sean H. He's Sean H. You remember Crossover?
SPEAKER_03:227. I just remember the uh the black lady, uh, though the black lady. She was a pony.
SPEAKER_01:Marla Gibbs.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, she was a pony sting on there.
SPEAKER_01:Wait, no, the old black lady.
SPEAKER_03:Marla Gibbs fell on there.
SPEAKER_01:Marla Gibbs. You talking about names. That's that's the old lady. No, Marla Gibbs was the mama.
SPEAKER_03:We're gonna get to the intro eventually. Yeah, yeah. We we we're talking about 227. This is also a very, very special episode of uh Talk Yo Shit. If you uh haven't noticed, I have not introduced or let him introduce himself because this talk your shit is about our brother. He is uh wonderful, wonderful rapper, better father, and just a great all-around man. I've known him for I don't know how long it's been now. What?
SPEAKER_00:It's over 20 years.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we were kids. We still kids.
unknown:Amen.
SPEAKER_03:Well, don't tell my knees.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. My knees do not agree. Yeah, I've seen.
SPEAKER_03:I saw him thrust. They fine.
SPEAKER_00:I I five plates now on each other. Oh, okay. We're talking about 450. The gym. Okay. I wasn't gonna pause that.
SPEAKER_04:I was like, what to see?
SPEAKER_00:I didn't look in the camera this time. I've grown up.
SPEAKER_03:So he goes by uh many names. I I remember Flotavia Sixfeet. Flotavia Sixfeet. I don't know that one. Six Fried. That's the last one. We got Ray Tron, as we know. Flo Sicka Pandemic. Flow Sicka, Mr. McStutter McFly. Where do we start at? We was uh I remember back in the day was Stutter Boy.
SPEAKER_00:Before that was An Juan Nigarachi.
SPEAKER_02:An one nigarachi. And Anarchy the Assassin. Well, that takes away one of my questions because I was gonna say.
SPEAKER_03:But ladies and gentlemen, let's give a big warm round of applause for Mr. Ray Tron Stutter McFly. Woohoo!
SPEAKER_00:Thank you, thank you, thank you. It was a drive out here, man. It's a suburbs, man. I'm not used to this. I was trying to come in on some like I'm a rapper, but uh well you made it on time, so thank you for that.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't. This nigga say this nigga walk walks his husky around the neighborhood. Yeah, but he's not from the suburbs.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. See, I'm trying to come in on rapper, but they didn't know need to know I had a husky or two huskies, actually.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I hope they watch the pun.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:How have you been? How are you?
SPEAKER_00:Tired, um, exhausted, uh, excited, energetic, all at the same time. It's all a contradiction. Yeah, that's uh that's a ball of a whole lot. Yeah. Of confusion? Yeah. And of knots, because um uh every muscle is um Oh I th I thought you were saying the protein is getting to you. That and the that too. That's why magnesium's a thing in multiple reasons. For multiple reasons. I take a lot of magnesium supplements.
SPEAKER_02:I thought you didn't just take the pill.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, multiple pills. But do you gotta take multiple?
SPEAKER_01:Because there's like different types of magnesium.
SPEAKER_03:All right, y'all is health conscience.
unknown:There.
SPEAKER_03:We're gonna start off with it.
SPEAKER_00:When you catch a cramp, just doing random shit, you realize I don't get those too often then.
SPEAKER_03:You don't keep doing you hurt out, you hurt your hamstring running. Well, I was running. I was trying to sprint with children, and I'm not one. It didn't work out well. So I'ma I'm gonna I'm gonna start off with you on this one. Let's let's see how long have you been rapping actively?
SPEAKER_00:Like I'm 40 and I started at 16.
unknown:Don't make me do math.
SPEAKER_00:I'm trying to do it myself.
SPEAKER_03:24, Kobe. Oh, there we go. That's dope.
SPEAKER_00:The 24 year, yeah. That works. That works, yeah. So 24 years.
SPEAKER_03:24 years. So with that, what has been like your biggest lesson you've learned from the music business?
SPEAKER_00:The music business itself is uh do everything on your own and don't pay attention to um the the negative uh comments because what may be right for one might not be right for you. So if they tell you what you're doing is not working, if you f if you truthfully believe in what you're doing, work it. Because at the end of the day, there's already a ludicrous, there's already a J, there's already a M. And just because they're saying, well, that's working for them, it doesn't mean it's gonna work for you. Yeah. So just do if you feel like solely confident that what you're doing is working, or it can work, then do it. I like that. Um well with that, would you uh because you're saying do it yourself, would you like would you advocate independence or yeah, definitely, especially now, because now you don't shit labels are archaic now that they and their formula of the three, you know, the 360 deals and all that shit. You don't even need it now. Now labels do the whole you have a buzz going, we'll just attach ourselves to it and claim that we're giving you help by giving you distribution deals, but at the end of the day, you don't even need that with the with the internet and TikTok and all that. You can fucking go viral and popular off of one fucking 15-second clip that ends up putting you on the radio.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and the labels are still old-ass deals.
SPEAKER_00:A lot of trash ass 15-second clips on the radio. I've I know that that fucking sound, and then you hear the rest of the song. It's like, turn this shit off.
SPEAKER_03:Like it I question anyone to finish the wait a minute, get it how you live it song. Wait a minute.
SPEAKER_00:That big step up.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. Listen to the rest of the song. You won't listen to that song anymore.
SPEAKER_02:That part. Yeah, I don't even know.
SPEAKER_00:I don't listen to the radio, I guess. What? Wait a minute, get it how you live it. Tintoes town when we stand in on business on a big step up. You never heard that? No, it's on the radio.
SPEAKER_01:I don't, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Niggas is going popular off of bridges.
SPEAKER_01:And then when you get to the rest of the streets, that'd be the TikToks and stuff like that. But I haven't heard that song.
SPEAKER_03:Bridge don't exist no more. It's just a straight course. Yeah. Who would you say your biggest influence growing up?
SPEAKER_00:Growing up? Yeah. Uh shit. Uh it'd be uh bone, thugs, and harmony, actually.
SPEAKER_03:Which one? Don't say which.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, for real. You don't get to do that.
SPEAKER_00:Okay. Uh it'd be a combination of busy bone and crazy bone. Okay. Uh, the rest I don't fuck with. You don't fuck with Lazy? At all? Sometimes. Sometimes. He's a good one. I mean, I know he's number three, but he's better than Wish. If he's on in a batting order, yeah, his percentage is very low. Wish is just.
SPEAKER_03:Well, he might get you a bunt.
SPEAKER_01:I wish I remember. Wish is gonna get you a strikeout. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, wish is just you put lazy in the middle of the song to kind of get to get everybody else rest, and then and then busy come back wrong.
SPEAKER_00:I still ask this question to everyone. Have you ever said, Man, I can't wait for that wish bone so well? No, I'm never. I'm gonna tell you, I've heard rumblings that it's coming out finally. Double aluminum foil.
SPEAKER_01:Busy Bone is the only one that I remember. But you remember Crazy?
SPEAKER_03:He's nuts.
SPEAKER_01:I I the rest of them, I can't place their name with their face. I could place Busy Bone.
SPEAKER_03:Crazy the dark skinned one. That could rap. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Wish is the one that missed the other wall. The other dark one couldn't rap.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Wish was the one who said where wherever I go. Wherever I go.
unknown:I could not.
SPEAKER_00:Right. I bet Uncle Charles. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's what he's known for. But in the video, remember, he wasn't, they didn't show him, they showed Uncle Charles. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_01:This is not about bone thugs. Can we not? Mm-hmm. Because we really talk about Uncle Charles at this point.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I'm gonna ask you. I have to agree though, busy is the best one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_02:That's a tough one. Uh Busy's my favorite, but crazy might be the most technically best.
SPEAKER_01:So you said that busy and most majority.
SPEAKER_02:And the technicality.
SPEAKER_03:If I have to rank them as busy, crazy, lazy.
SPEAKER_01:That's fair.
SPEAKER_03:And who? Huh? Who's a Fletch?
SPEAKER_01:There's a Fletch. You might as well throw Uncle Charles in there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I'd rather hear Uncle Charles than what. That's goddamn.
SPEAKER_01:Dead ass. I I I'm gonna go with Uncle Charles at this point.
SPEAKER_00:Man, he's probably way on beat.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you know they say Utah ain't nothing to play with.
SPEAKER_02:So I'm gonna give you one that we usually give uh the talk your shit uh guest is what is your writing style? But I'm gonna add, how has it evolved over the years?
SPEAKER_00:Uh when I first used to write, I would uh I would write on pen and pad, but it was uh chicken scraps, and it gets really hard to um to understand. It would get really hard to understand uh what I was writing. So eventually I would when I would record, I would improvise. So okay. So eventually improvising kind of became a style of mine because it actually worked out to my favor because what I would hear in my head sounded better than what was so if you ever listen read my lyrics, you'll be like, this ain't at all what the song sounds like because I'm coming with it on the fly. So I'd be like, why'd you write this? Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Because you didn't say nothing in here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Do you have a like a detailed process or element that you use to write, or is it just like, I'm about to write? What does that look like?
SPEAKER_00:It's usually based on the moment. Sometimes I've had it to where I'll be super inspired by something I saw, and I'll be like, I need to write. I need to write right now. Or other times it'd just be like, you know what? I'm not doing shit. Let's write.
SPEAKER_03:It's just so let me ask you this. What inspired Fligo?
SPEAKER_00:Honestly, you're just being inspired in the moment.
SPEAKER_03:Because like it and that's can we bottle that shit up?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I mean it just it literally does depend on the moment.
SPEAKER_03:That Flego shit is hard.
SPEAKER_00:I appreciate that. It all is like in that span of I think it was like three months, I wrote like like crazy and I produced a lot of stuff.
SPEAKER_03:I understand that, but I'm telling you, Frego was the best in that in that in that period of time.
SPEAKER_00:Can I ask this?
SPEAKER_03:Frego was like, this nigga going crazy.
SPEAKER_00:Can I ask this? Did any of you or any of that sound like anything Wishbone would ever put out?
SPEAKER_04:Hell no.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, that's obvious. As long as I'm there. That's the bar.
SPEAKER_04:The proof is wish ain't putting shit up. It's really an unfair question.
SPEAKER_00:I think Uncle Charles got more bar than he's gonna watch, I'm gonna get this watch.
SPEAKER_02:Nah, he just gonna come punch you.
SPEAKER_00:Like he said, Wishbone just isn't it? Oh, yeah, he's the one that got shot. Anyway. I'm working on some shit. Maybe I will bottle up for you though.
SPEAKER_03:Do you have like a favorite studio session?
SPEAKER_00:I know there's a lot, but my favorite one, and it's like good and bad, is I went to LA, uh, shout out to Teflon, and he he was working on a compilation album, and we did like four songs, and this was in 2020, January 25th of 2020. And um, I remember that shit specifically. Um but I remember going into that session and he had his homeboy over there, and we just I we did these songs, and I could tell, like, because I I'm used to recording by myself, by myself with my own setup. So being in someone else's shit, and pause uh and doing something on their time, and then like you being able to just go into the booth and record, and you don't have to worry about the punching in or nothing, you're just rapping, and just seeing the reaction of people in the room was like it was a beautiful feeling because you realize that a lot of times people don't get to see your process, yeah. But like I it's a whole different process when you're prepared. Because like I've rapped this fucking verses fucking 30, 40,000 times. And so when I got to that point, it was like, oh, it's just hit the button, and I'm oh yeah, that's the best. And then I remember coming out with that uh Seat Warmers, and then there was a verse, shout out to Jig. My bad Cedric CJ Simmons. I don't know which. I'll just call you Jig.
SPEAKER_05:That's Jig.
SPEAKER_00:Uh there was a last-minute song. He was like, dude, we need a verse for this song. Can you um can you write something on the spot? And I wrote it in in uh 10 minutes, and I wrote wrapped it in uh one take, and then ended up on that on that compilation. And I remember feeling so hyped about that session, I was like, man, this is like to be on somebody else's shit and and do something and and then re- embrace it, but nigga, you need to be doing this, like this should be your career. And then, but I said it was a somber moment after that because Kobe died the next day, and I remember that's why I remember that shit extensively because it was like nigga. How do you remember the date like that?
SPEAKER_01:When he said January 25th, I immediately went to Kobe. And I was like, was that before or after? But I knew it was that week. That's so crazy. I knew that.
SPEAKER_00:That Saturday I was I was locked in and excited, and it was the best session ever. And then 20, January 26th, I got a text from him actually saying, uh, did you hear the shit about Kobe? And I was like, No fucking way. Ah, okay.
SPEAKER_01:That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I don't be remembering days. That's too much weed. And then that I saw my dad that day, he was like, Your hero died today, and I said, Fuck.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's that shit still hurt. That one I couldn't imagine.
SPEAKER_02:My daddy was alive on that one. I would have probably seen him cry like a baby.
SPEAKER_00:And then all the rumors that were happening that day was crazy. Because there were so many different rumors. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's how the day Nipsey died. You would have thought I lost my mic.
SPEAKER_03:I thought that shit was crazy too. I said, I said, how the fuck did this happen?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I woke up, I had to, I never take naps. That's what's so crazy. I had took a nap, woke up, my phone. Everybody was like texting my phone, sending like little screw, because he had gotten shot, but he hadn't died.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Everybody's like, is this real through? But I'm just like, the folks are going insta, like social media, whatever. And you seeing stuff, you seeing stuff, you seeing stuff, and then all the little stories start to unfold. And but yeah, those it's crazy because they be celebrities, but they you feel connected. Like, I think I told you before I drove around crying like my nigga died. We're like three weeks listening to songs.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I guess it sounds crazy, but I was I was hurt.
SPEAKER_00:I remember that day too.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I was hella hurt. I remember going to work. I remember it was a uh it was Caesar Travis Day, March 31st. So I was off work that day. But then when I went to work the next day, like the deputies and shit that I work with, they were like, oh yeah, they said like there's a rapper that died, like trying to dismiss it. And I'm like, you gotta get out of my fucking face right now, because you don't understand. I'm grieving. Like, don't come at me with that shit. Niggas was in the cell in the cells right now. That's why it was crazy.
SPEAKER_03:I triggered people. I triggered the white people. Oh, you're a disruptor. Cause when our boy died, I said, I said niggas died every day, B.
SPEAKER_04:Who?
SPEAKER_03:I ain't gonna say his name.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, they'll we'll good. Oh the magnet stuff out the woodworks.
SPEAKER_04:That's a nigga die every day. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and that's that'd be the thing, like not to go through. That'd be the thing. Like they somebody, a random, you know, person will die, and they'll be like, oh my god, that's horrible. Their family and all this type of stuff. And then like Nipsey died, and I'm like literally trying to hold back tears, and he's just like, oh yeah, you know, he was famous for that song. Fuck Donald. Like, come on now. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:I still play used to play. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I'm a disruptor like that. So I'ma just say that uh seat warmers is on my gym playlist.
SPEAKER_00:Seat warmers. Yeah. Okay. The song's very work out.
SPEAKER_03:You be hitting it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. That's yeah. What? That song I don't think you should. Yeah. I don't. Yeah. I'm not sure. It's about fucking, so I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not bushing. No, this song's about fucking. I got my on my gym playlist. I'll be doing the electric title and shit. What do you think I'll work out for?
SPEAKER_03:To be healthy? Yes, but also the fuck. I was like, that's the goal. But also the fuck. Well, you know what? We can go there.
SPEAKER_00:Do hip thrust for the purpose.
SPEAKER_03:So we see we got into fitness a little bit.
SPEAKER_02:Um what what would you say like the uh is the most impactful lesson you'd learned through your fitness journey so far?
SPEAKER_00:Uh anything's possible with uh the belief and and and and uh following through because uh thing about working out for me has been something I've been trying to do for years, but like to actually follow through with it and and stick with it, you start realizing what's possible. So like even being 40 now and and going to the gym and now seeing the same people that reacted to you like two years ago now look at you in a different light, and you you can you can pinpoint when it shifted, and then seeing them on when I play basketball now to where they were looking at you like what this fat motherfucker trying to do. And now they're like, I'm sorry. Is that video camera recording? Uh did you just hit but bust in my eye pause? And yes, and it's going on, it's going on the gram. Like it's it's a different feeling, it's a different energy, and it's like like my nephew said to me, he said, you have to realize that um you've uh sat in the bubble for so long, and they're realizing that you're now realizing in there what people already knew is that it's not you're in the room with them, they're in the room with you, and now you're the fucking thing they need to worry about. So it's shout out to my uh nephew Saul, because I was I I take that shit every day with magnesium.
SPEAKER_03:I'm sorry I lied. It's elevate. I see marks.
SPEAKER_00:Well, elevate's the other one, yeah. Shout out to Jake, CJ Simmons. That was one I did in 10 minutes.
SPEAKER_02:So you be doing that shit early as hell. Um and being a good father. Like, how do you balance fatherhood, gym, and podcast, and just life?
SPEAKER_00:Uh I would say I I put on my blinders and go into like uh not thinking about the the I used to always make this the mistake of overthinking and thinking about all of it and wait, and then I and instead of just doing it. That's even how I approach the gym uh every day is I don't think about oh my god, I gotta do this today in the gym. It's just you see it, do it. That's what I gotta do. And then I hear my dad's voice, you know what you need to do, nigga, so do it. So that's what I do. I just I don't think about I don't think about shit until it's over. And then when I think about it, I'm like, okay, I I finished it. As opposed to thinking at it and saying, fuck, I still need to do this. I still need to do it. Because if I do that way, it starts to feel so much heavier.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm I'm mad you said that because I got some shit I gotta do. I don't even want to know. I don't even want to know it's safe.
SPEAKER_01:I can't stand it.
SPEAKER_03:He said, he said, I don't think about shit, I just do it and get it over with it. And my when my brain said, Well, did you wipe?
SPEAKER_00:Ouch. This nigga. So I thought you'd go somewhere else. I'm fine with that. Yeah, I thought it was gonna be worse. Um, I I have days where not necessarily that I don't have the discipline, it's just days that you give yourself a little bit of grace. Like, so you might not wake up with the same intensity, but you still wake up with the same purpose.
SPEAKER_01:That makes sense. That's good.
SPEAKER_00:That's all that means you get it done still, you get it done still, it's just you might not approach it with the same energy that you might have had the last four days.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, the same level of intensity. Sometimes you just end there going with the emotions, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But you're you go, you make sure to get it done. Emotions is better than stagnation.
SPEAKER_01:Do you have times where you can't do it? Do you give yourself grace through that, or do you just not have times where you don't show up for yourself?
SPEAKER_00:I uh I always show up. That's the thing, is like that I feel like I'm harder on myself the moments in the past where I didn't show up. And that's what I I try to this time around, no matter what, show up even when you feel like shit. I mean, there's been times where you just like, dude, I really don't feel like my brain's not in it, but you still just you still do it. Because you start thinking of alternatives, and that's the shit that weighs heavier on me is the alternative when you start thinking out all right, you take one day off, then one day can turn to three days, and three days can turn to six days, and six days can turn to twelve, and now all of a sudden you you spiraled in the wrong direction of uh getting out of your groove. So it's like I have to show up, even if everything is always show up to the gym, or always show up to do with the podcast. I could be fucking my brain could be thinking about all this shit and not swinging on my neighbor or whatever, and I'm still saying I still gotta show up because what I'm dealing with ain't got shit to do with y'all. Like, I I want to make sure I'm here for y'all, even if I'm not in the right headspace.
SPEAKER_02:So I'm scared. Well, if you don't come in and like swing on us.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, that's why I was like, I've never taken I'm not bringing it over here. I've never taken my I've never taken my aggression out on anybody else. I always try to take my aggression out where it's just hip thrust.
SPEAKER_02:Them hip thrust.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and the gym. One into in. But when I'm dealing with like a singular enemy, it's I can't, it's not fair to anybody else to receive that energy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Does the gym help that though? You know, a lot of people say, I mean, it's like, I don't want to say scientifically, but they say that like the gym helps with regulating emotions and all that type of stuff. Do you feel that you're regulated?
SPEAKER_00:I think I hyper hyper-fixate. So I guess it does and it doesn't. Because I can hyper-fix it and you end up hurting yourself sometimes because you'll be pushing through a weight and be like, nigga, I got this. And you're like, nigga, I didn't have it. I shouldn't have done that. I don't know. I shouldn't have done that.
SPEAKER_01:Like But you feel like you're hyper-fixating because the stress or whatever it is that you're feeling. Well, that's interesting. That's really interesting.
SPEAKER_03:It's the um, what it is is it's the endorphins.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Which is high.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, you're still placing them in a certain place, not necessarily because some people can work out and it's like a stress reliever. But what I'm kind of gathering is that you're saying that in not like it makes you push yourself more.
SPEAKER_00:Right. And yeah, it doesn't really necessarily relieve the stress for me, but it does let me compartmentalize. Yeah, I end up fucked up. But god damn it.
SPEAKER_01:I did too much.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I know for me the gym is the one place where for that hour, hour and a half, I'm in there, nothing else matters. Yeah. So it is like it's like me hitting pause.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You hit pause, and then the real life don't continue to you. I walk back out that door.
SPEAKER_01:When you walk back out that door, though, is there a shift what real life now is?
SPEAKER_03:Well, no, you have you I tend to have a more clear understanding.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. So that's a shift.
SPEAKER_03:So you, you know, yeah, it's a little bit. You walk in there cloudy and then you're it's the same difference from like hit the pause button. You'll notice that like walking on the walking outside is vastly different from walking on a treadmill. Outside, yeah, when you get the sun, when you got the sun, the sun in your face, and you and you you feel the air and you see the environment and you're actually uh moving in in nature, it's a lot, it's a lot more clarifying than walking on a damn treadmill.
SPEAKER_00:And a friendly person can change the perspective. Because like if you're just hyper-fixated on a treadmill and you're just like, fuck, I'm just walking through, but then you see that one friendly neighbor that kind of puts shit in perspective, and you're like, I got it good. Maybe I should just shut the fuck up with why I was asking you about the discipline and all that, because I I don't have a problem working out.
SPEAKER_01:I hate the gym. I don't, I'm, I'm a, I love it.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you're going to the wrong gym.
SPEAKER_01:No, well, no.
SPEAKER_03:You can go to the gym. I mean, this is years. Well, and that's what I'm getting at.
SPEAKER_01:I I I prefer I will hike all day long. I go, I'm always walking out in nature. Like, nature is my thing. So that's what I was saying. Like, when it comes to the gym, I've tried to find discipline in that because I'm like, dang, I want to do like, you know, certain things in the gym, but then I'm like, I don't. But that's why I was asking about the discipline. But I just recently signed up for kickboxing classes. So it's probably different.
SPEAKER_00:That's what's up.
SPEAKER_01:So we'll see. I liked it. So she's doing things, she don't throwing hands. I'm throwing both. How do you do that when it comes to music? Find out.
SPEAKER_02:That's a that's that's that's a curiosity. Like for music? Yeah, if you're in that space, because creatively, you usually gotta be, it's hard to like phone it in, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03:So, like, if you're in that, do you have do you still have that gear to like you mean videos are phoned in? Well, I'm talking about like when you're when you're rapping and stuff and like making music, you gotta have that match the energy of what you wrote and stuff, you know what I mean? Hold on, before you answer, unrelated. You don't think blue face phones it in?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I don't know if I don't know what Blueface does.
SPEAKER_01:I don't think Blueface really has a process.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think he thinks there's no process.
SPEAKER_01:Blueface don't have no process.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Blueface said he loved the street.
SPEAKER_02:He's playing the numbers game. Okay. Where they they buy in, I'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_00:I would I was just gonna say that Blueface might look up to Wishbone.
SPEAKER_01:Um No, we don't.
SPEAKER_00:Look look look but uh Usually with me in music, it's I can rap about anything, right? Like it's one of the things where it's like no depending on the mood you're in, you can rap about anything, as far as in my case. But it is important, and you're not gonna document anything that you don't feel is worth it. So I can to get in a headspace with music, you can say, I'll go walk somewhere and just turn a beat on and freestyle for 30 minutes just to get it out like like to get out the bullshit. And then you might take that back and then be like, all right, now that I got the bullshit out, let me start rapping about it. And if if it's I'm fixated on enough, I guess that's the fucking topic we're talking about. You know, like it's like fuck it. Like, I guess if I can't stop thinking about it, I guess that's the topic of the next song or the next verse or the freestyle or whatever.
SPEAKER_02:So you just let the you let it just not environment, but whatever dictate how where you're going creatively.
SPEAKER_03:Have you ever uh had a sorry, have you ever said a dope ass bar about freestyling, but hold on nigga, I gotta write that down.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, all the time. Most of my most of my verses come from that was a dope line. Let me write that shit down before I forget it. And then you you come back to it and be like, yeah, what was that bar that I said? It comes out dope that way.
SPEAKER_02:So do you dedicate time to to record, or is it like when the inspiration comes?
SPEAKER_00:When I get the chance, it's usually when I get the chance because with kids and shit always going, you you you like, you know what? They're not asking for anything. I don't need to do anything over here for that. That's not happening. I got about two hours to do this shit. Let me just lock in for two hours and whatever comes out, cool. Like, and then I fucking I make this mistake and I I gotta learn to not do it uh so frequently. Is I just post, I don't edit, or I just like because I really want to put it out because I'm like, damn, I don't get the opportunity. So I just throw out songs and it's like I I gotta stop doing that. I just gotta patience and give it, you know, and marinate. These niggas can wait, like find somebody to mix it and all that.
SPEAKER_03:Like it marinate.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, but I that's my uh I like to put shit out, but it's usually you can tell because I'm like, damn, I don't get the opportunity. So when I do get the opportunity, I'm like, let me record and fucking throw this out because I think it's all that's the beauty of in the world.
SPEAKER_03:I have a question on music related. Um, being a father and dealing with uh two kids that have hands and one daughter that's shown that she will lash out at you. Uh, do you ever go to sleep scared?
SPEAKER_00:The baby's the one that terrifies me.
SPEAKER_01:It's always the baby.
SPEAKER_00:He slapped the shit out of me one night because I fell asleep when he was trying to hang out and I dozed off after work. He slapped the shit out of me. He that motherfucker's crazy. Yeah, he laughed about it. I was like, ain't shit funny.
SPEAKER_04:Damn. He got a cute chuckle though.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that you know he's hit you before. So you know that that little laugh afterwards, you I can't be mad at you, but I kind of want to hit you. So I I was holding my nephew.
SPEAKER_03:We was on the Lil Mermaid ride at this point when I was holding him. And and he and he wanted to get to the daddy. He smacked the dog shot of me. And I said, look here, sir.
SPEAKER_04:I said, I'm about to throw your ass.
SPEAKER_00:The thing is, he'll give that little that little grin. You're like, oh, I can't be mad at him. Like, but you kind of still want to deck him. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:The first thing I did when I got the rising, I said, You're going back to your mama. Yeah. Like shit. But yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But the other two, they tend to, I feel like the older they get, they um they kind of understand that dad has stress and dad does things. But the youngest one is slight. Like I said, you've if you don't give him the attention you want, he'll slap the sheriff. So that's the one I keep my eye up for when I fall asleep around him.
SPEAKER_02:And he's gonna be big, so those are gone.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, the way he punks his two older siblings is interesting.
SPEAKER_03:I'm telling you that he could be about six, seven, six, eight. He's gonna be his damn big. He's gonna wear a size 27.
SPEAKER_00:The fact that he wears. This is the thing. This is a this is really troubling to me. He is two years old. Andreas is eight. He wears Andreas' clothes that Andreas had at five and six. He can fit those clothes. Yeah. And so I'll be like, Andreas, either you're not eating enough, or I'm I'm in for a rude awakening when he gets older.
SPEAKER_03:No, Alaric is just built. I think that's what's coming. He built different. You might want to get like a farm with the city. I'm telling you right now, I'm telling you right now, Alaric is the D1 athlete in the house, okay? Andreas, he might be going D2, D3. Or let's go on D1.
SPEAKER_00:He's different. It's a big boy.
SPEAKER_03:Let's uh let's blend that. How have you uh have you had any moments with the uh kids in music like that you shared with them? Like that you can remember.
SPEAKER_01:That's okay.
SPEAKER_00:Um see uh out of the three, Ava's the most musically inclined. Uh, but there the instances where I've actually shared things is I think it's dope, and I always go back to those songs. Is like there's uh there's a TikTok freestyle I did where Andreas is, I think he was three or four, and he jumps in at the last minute, and that was literally not playing. He just happened to jump in. He heard me rapping and was like, Dad's rapping in the loft. And he and it it timed perfectly. It looked like it was purpose, but it wasn't. So like even when he gets older, he's gonna be able to look at that. Like, I did that shit. That's dope. Um then there's times where and if you listen to Gun at the 88, if you listen to the first the intro, if you pay attention really closely, there's a time where Andreas is crying, but he's he's doing that fake cry shit. And he's crying because he didn't get what he wanted, so he was going, and it's like, man, if you don't like, I know this fake ad, like I know how you really cry. This ain't a real cry, but there those times where I can go back and I always sometimes I was like, hey, you don't hear that voice? That's you, that's you when you were younger. Um so those are usually those.
SPEAKER_02:They see you recording it.
SPEAKER_00:They see me recording it and they and they think it's dope, but they haven't reached out to me yet to say, I'm waiting for Ava to have a diss track for me, but they haven't reached out to be like, Hey, probably already music.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, she's writing it now.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I was gonna ask you, you said she's most musically in crying. What does that look like?
SPEAKER_03:She's writing the discussion. She loves to sing to the beat of golden.
SPEAKER_01:Probably.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. She's gonna say, I'm done crying, and it's gonna be just a big ass distract.
SPEAKER_01:Does she like intentionally like she she writes and she does all that?
SPEAKER_00:No, she sings, she loves to sing like random, like when you hear her just singing, and she'll freestyle a song as she's singing. Like, you be like, Are you singing? And she'll just be singing, and you'd be like, What song are you singing? Nothing. I was just singing about whatever is going on. I'm like, Oh, that's cool. Yeah, some heat.
SPEAKER_03:Have they ever seen you perform?
SPEAKER_00:Just on uh YouTube.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah, most places aren't kids.
SPEAKER_00:I don't really know. That's that's why I was mad.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think they're gonna let kids would have word alcohol surfed. I mean, my kids have seen me perform, so I'm kind of mad that I didn't they'll do it sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:I'm kind of mad I didn't take them to that Fullerton show because I didn't know kids could be there. Remember the since it was out in like a warehouse, they could have actually, and I saw kids and I was like, oh, I could have brought them and they could have a lot of things about that show. That was that was true. That was very uh it wasn't very detailed about what was allowed and what wasn't. But yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Alright, so besides doing uh rap, hip hop, oh rap, I'm in podcast.
SPEAKER_03:Um no more drinks for you. Do you have any hidden talents that uh the people don't know about?
SPEAKER_00:Um impressions, comedy.
SPEAKER_01:Do me, nigga. That's how hey, that's our uncle.
SPEAKER_02:I was not expected.
SPEAKER_04:She said that shit with the quick.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I was caught off guard.
SPEAKER_04:I'm like, what that's uh It's like she had that shit queued up. You triggered that shit real quick.
SPEAKER_01:Now that's like some old uncle shit. Like you you have your your nephew be like, oh yeah, like I know how to do it first. Okay, do me, nigga.
SPEAKER_00:I can't I that did caught me up, catch me on guard, but it was funny. It was um I yeah, I do impressions. Um, I should clarify. I do impressions when and he knows when I'm in like like when I'm in the vacation, uh not vacation. Well, it would be vacation or at the end of the day or end of the work week. When a nigga tired. Yeah, and I'm just hit hit my level.
SPEAKER_03:Are you doing impressions of work employees?
SPEAKER_00:No, it's usually like I have my go-to's, like I'll do a Morgan Freeman or uh Obama. You gonna give us one or what?
SPEAKER_03:One day this nigga did he rapped a whole J Song uh J. Cole song as Obama. Oh Lord.
SPEAKER_01:There is somebody that does that. Have you seen that? I feel like I've seen that before.
SPEAKER_03:Like there's a guy that did he hear it.
SPEAKER_01:Damn, I can't remember what I was.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, you're talking about the guy that he he acts like he's Obama and he raps on.
SPEAKER_01:But no, not just Obama. He like did a whole song in everybody's voice. I can't remember what it was, though.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, Aries Spears. And then he starts answering questions like he's Morgan Freeman.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's it's that's interesting to do a Morgan Freeman. Freeman impression.
SPEAKER_00:But I don't even know where I channel it from. It's just I get a fucking tired. Like I get tired and I'm like, I'm done with the day or I'm done with the week. And I'm just like, I see the finish line, so I'm at fuck. I'm in fucking mode at that point. But um then I like doing comedy. I've actually written a few jokes, but um you can't share? I'll I'll share with you uh off Oh, damn. Niggas niggas at off the record.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna ask him to do an impression, but I was like, he's not gonna do that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we've got I've done Obama before. It's just it depends on the mood. I'm I'm in a rapper brain right now. Oh, gotcha. But uh you might in the later in the uh episode, you might it might come out. If I drink that drink, if I drink that drink, they were like, all you're gonna hear is snoring. Um but yeah. What was the question? That was the question, right?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, have the kids.
SPEAKER_03:Have the kids ever seen you perform?
SPEAKER_00:Oh no, it was the other hot secret secret uh other secret uh yeah, it was the the impressions. I like doing writing comedy and content, and um I also like uh that's it.
SPEAKER_01:What do you say when you say writing content, like what do you mean?
SPEAKER_00:Like writing content creation, like anything for like like I like doing skits like okay, but it's just uh I feel like that's where I'm more the most cluttered because I I want it to come out right, and like if I can't visualize it to come out right as far as the the way it's shot and all that, my brain's like, man, that's not gonna work until it looks the right way. So but I do write and have ideas, a lot of ideas. I don't want to execute that shit. So when we're gonna go tell some jokes. Yeah. I'm actually not opposed to it. I just know because of rapper, like we're we're we need like instant reactions. Yeah, and comedy shows is different. I was like, I don't know how a motherfucker can go up there and like bomb and then just walk off and be like, yeah, I'm like, I'll be like, I used to be like, I had to learn to stop being so mad, where it's like, this is gonna happen. Yeah, I get that's where I my brain processes that's like it's going to happen. It's just rappers are so used to like I can flip a situation to where maybe that song didn't go well, but the next one might, and so on and so forth. But like with comedy, it it can just start here and then just it can snowball face. And you're just like, I just fuck like I I don't I just don't want to be that guy that just starts fucking lashing out at the crowd like that's not good. That's what I was gonna say.
SPEAKER_01:That might be funny though.
SPEAKER_00:Don't they don't sometimes sometimes if they have the ability to, but then it could turn and then that person in the crowd is funnier than you. It gets tough. Like in that professor, yeah, they just start roasting you, and you're like, well, I fucked up. Possibly I found the one person in the crowd that is funnier than me.
SPEAKER_01:It's a lot of funny people at this week.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I think there's a lot of people with funny moments. A lot of niggas ain't funny.
SPEAKER_01:No, a lot of niggas is funny. That too. I think that funny is it's different. Like, you know, like you got like, like if you compare like um comedians that we know. So there's like uh what's the did not Jake, not Dave Chappelle, the other little black one.
SPEAKER_04:Kevin Hart? Kevin Hart. They all's not little. Dave Chappelle's tall.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I'm thinking of um Gary Coleman. No, he's not a fucking comedian, is he? Um Kevin Hart, I don't care for Kevin Hart either. Uh who was I just said Nutty Professor, who was the that black comedian that was Andy Murphy?
SPEAKER_00:No, that he roasted uh Dave Chappelle. What was Dave Children Dave Chabot?
SPEAKER_01:He was just young as fuck. Okay, so I'll compare Kevin Hart to Mike Epps, right? Very different. I don't think that Kevin Hart, I feel like Kevin Hart is a telling jokes ass nigga. Yeah. I think Mike Epps is just a funny motherfucker. Like, I feel like Mike Epps, if when he's in his family element, like if he didn't go be go and be like a um on stage like comedian, like he's just funny.
SPEAKER_03:I feel like Mike Epps is more of a uh what they call a physical comic. Like you gotta see the body language.
SPEAKER_01:You think so? I think he tells like them jokes like like the uncle jokes, like the funny person in your family. Like that's how I see my Mike Epps.
SPEAKER_03:Mike Epps is I love Mike Epps.
SPEAKER_02:Great comedian, but uh uh for me, I would not put a I would base the show around Kevin Hart before I base the show around Mike Epps.
SPEAKER_01:But Kevin Hart is telling jokes.
SPEAKER_02:Kevin Hart is much more prepared, I can tell. But that speaks to what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03:But it's also been said that Kevin Hart has a team of people having to be able to do that. Yeah, that's really good. Plastic Cupboys be right in all that shit.
SPEAKER_00:So he's Drake.
SPEAKER_03:No, he gives a I mean, no, that's comedy, though.
SPEAKER_01:No, and and I just think that there's the different styles, and but that speaks to what like what he was saying. There's people that like are comedians and it's funny people. I think the mic ups just might be a funny person. That nigga is just funny.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, it could everybody has a lot of funny ass jokes, but he also has a lot of jokes that's like not funny. Yeah, but he has a but he has more that hit that. I used him as he wrote for like a lot of delirious and all that stuff. So all those fools like would they write with each other, but yeah, like you said, they give each other credit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's like well. Richard Pryor, I think that he that's why he's legendary because I think he's a mixed joke.
SPEAKER_02:He mixed it all. He could do it all.
SPEAKER_01:He's funny, but he is telling jokes.
SPEAKER_02:It was it's more down to earth. Mike Epps is more down to earth than Kevin Hart. We'll put it on. Mike Epps is more down to earth than he's gonna be like, he's more relatable as a comedian.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Kevin Hart is more performative, I think.
SPEAKER_02:I know I heard you.
SPEAKER_01:I heard him too.
SPEAKER_02:Free bass.
SPEAKER_01:I heard him too.
SPEAKER_03:All right, how would you life experiences, man? How would you sum up your music career up until this point?
SPEAKER_00:Promising, and then uh life happened. That's how I summed it up.
SPEAKER_03:What happened in life?
SPEAKER_00:I was fucking had kids, had to slow down. Yeah, get a job, that uh a career rather, so I can take care of them. So everything else slowed down. But I I don't regret it. It's just I know that that's where it was like, hey, move the needle. Gotta gotta slow down because I got I got responsibilities and I take them shit seriously. You did the right thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But you still incorporate the love of what you have for it. Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_00:Always, always.
SPEAKER_03:So in my brain.
SPEAKER_00:Oh lord.
SPEAKER_03:Kevin said you did the right thing. And I said, when is fucking not the right thing? There's times.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, it's it's one of those interesting things where you try to balance it. And then that that I think that's the thing you come across a lot now is you realize that people that have more time than you, and they'll be like, hey man, let's do this. And you're like, nigga, I don't. I'm not free today. Yeah. We should do this. Nigga, I can't. Yeah. We should just hit the studio and just lock it out. Unless it's an hour, I give you an hour. But like the like the studio sessions that the whole day they'll be hanging out the entire day. I was like, I can't.
SPEAKER_02:Hey man, we did three songs.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:We've been there since 9 a.m. Some people got more time, and some people are just irresponsible. They got kids at home too. They're just not taking it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they just that's the thing, too.
SPEAKER_01:Like, you be like, nigga, don't you got like yeah, you got kids too, nigga. Like you ain't got somewhere to be.
SPEAKER_00:They're like, no, man, I don't. You'd be like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_01:They would think moms, right? Picking up your kids? Like, who does that? That's my my my what I hate to hear the most. No, I gotta babysit, I gotta watch my real thing.
SPEAKER_02:All right. That shit.
SPEAKER_01:How are you how are you babysitting your yeah? How are what the what? That's what I excuse me?
SPEAKER_02:Babysitters get paid.
SPEAKER_00:Shut up. Steve Henry is a driver. I know he said that shit went to me one day. He was like, yo, he's like, I always check somebody that tells me, like, oh, you got the kids, are you babysitting today? He's like, nah, nigga, they're my kids.
SPEAKER_01:My kids.
SPEAKER_00:I don't babysit my kids. He's like, I always correct and check somebody that says that. It's like, if those are your kids, you don't babysit your kids.
SPEAKER_04:That's weird. That shit do irritate me. Oh my god, it's so good. She's with dad today, bitch. Like, you think I only see her on the weekend or what? What the fuck?
SPEAKER_03:Fuck.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, that's probably what they do.
SPEAKER_02:That's probably what they do.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, it is uh deeply embedded in our culture. So, yes, they assume that immediately.
SPEAKER_03:I drop my daughter school every morning. Like, oh, your dad's always here in the morning. It's so cute. Like, do other dads? I'm not the only dad in the line. There's other dads dropping their kids. When it comes to the volunteering, I get that. I'm not just like it's always like I went, I was I saw I'm signed up. I haven't done it. I'm not doing that shit.
SPEAKER_02:But it's like I seen one dude the whole time. One like, oh, you are the the dad.
SPEAKER_03:She was like, Dad, are you gonna? I said, volunteer, that's mommy's job. That's not daddy's job.
SPEAKER_01:It's just people projecting. You it shows you how people grew up because it's not odd for me to see. I was with my dad all the time. Like my dad came to the field trips, all that. So it's not like odd to see dad for me.
SPEAKER_03:But that's just make sure she says that's not we already pay for it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I just blew that.
SPEAKER_03:So what's the future look like for Mr. McFly?
SPEAKER_00:Uh on the music front, I'm working on a couple of projects, and I'm just trying to make sure I can record those projects. Um, so I'm recording anytime I get free time. Um podcast is always for me, it's always uh sky's the limit. It's just um creating the right content for for something to to pop off and thrive, is how I look at that. As far as podcast-wise, and then gym uh is the the goal is to be a sex symbol. And um that's yeah, what about you know it comes with that, right?
SPEAKER_03:What sex well no, there's gonna be niggas too.
SPEAKER_04:Oh shit, I didn't expect that. What about what do you think?
SPEAKER_01:What is wrong with y'all, bro? Like, for real, because the way y'all perfectly set that up unintentionally was very sick. I felt like that out.
SPEAKER_04:What about for you?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, if you were Ollie fucking Ollie Oop and shit, like fucking white griffin over here.
SPEAKER_03:They are gay men exist in the world. You don't think gay men look good? They look good.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, hey, they probably the best, best customers.
SPEAKER_04:It's like, hey, how about your shirt? Like, hey, you cut it up too, but fucking you bought it.
SPEAKER_06:Oh I can't.
SPEAKER_04:What is what does becoming a stud symbol look like? No. Hold on. You don't think that there's a stud right now looking at your page?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, probably.
SPEAKER_01:I don't appeal to studs.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, you think let you think.
SPEAKER_01:No, I'm lying. I don't know. It probably is shit. You better not say shit till me, though. That's not, but that's not what it is. That's not how studs work.
SPEAKER_04:They don't usually be quiet. Oh no, they they go shoot their child.
SPEAKER_01:You want to know what's crazy? I've never been hit on by a stud.
SPEAKER_04:See, now you don't you're gonna fuck it up. Some art challenge and something.
SPEAKER_01:And I'm not inviting this in no type of way, but that's actually. But that's how they get I've never been hit on by a study.
SPEAKER_04:Girl, you try these niggas out here?
SPEAKER_03:I am, but that's how they go.
SPEAKER_01:Oh wow.
SPEAKER_03:They got no problem getting your pants, were you?
SPEAKER_01:I am 37 years old.
SPEAKER_00:A trap.
SPEAKER_01:But I think a lot of them are probably.
SPEAKER_00:Sorry, sorry I did that to you. They just triggered me because I saw a video on Facebook where it was a stud and then she was doing the grape sweatpants challenge with the that she had her strap and it was dangling, and she was like, Look at that. It's like, what the fuck? It's a strap on.
SPEAKER_04:Hold on, did you see that? The fucking video when they were they were getting jumps, and he was like, he had he was with a stud for it. He was like, he told her, get the strap, get the strap. And she put the That's sick.
SPEAKER_01:Like, what the fuck is this? That is sick.
SPEAKER_02:That's too much. Okay. Back to the uh regularly scheduled person.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna ask you, but then it's a nigga had the nerve to ask me instead of looking at my page.
SPEAKER_03:I was gonna ask you, what about what about personally?
SPEAKER_01:No, I know what I was gonna ask. Go ahead. Sorry.
SPEAKER_00:Uh trying to lock in a therapist. Ah, I like that. I uh yeah, I try to lock in the the couple of therapists. It's it's interesting. I did shit shit's different. I don't know if my insurance is different, but shit's different. But I'm trying to lock in a therapist.
SPEAKER_02:What are they bad or are you just yeah?
SPEAKER_00:I was gonna just uh the the the way that they structured it, it was it kind of threw me because the last time I had a therapist, it was just kind of straightforward. Yeah, and it's kind of now it's a tricky uh structure that they had to set up. So I'm trying to I and I actually thought I would like that therapist, but I was like, I can't, I gotta find one that's in my network or something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely. Found any like so you've been in therapy before? Yeah. And did you find like that there was value that you took from that?
SPEAKER_00:I feel like it was uh opportunity to talk and and not feel like necessarily judge, but like because I don't feel like they were judged me, but like I did did feel like to actually just kind of be able to talk and get a weight off and and know that they can't go anywhere and they have to kind of listen to what I say because that's what they're trying to do, is unpack what the fuck I went through. Yeah. It it felt I I I saw the benefit in it, but I don't think the.
SPEAKER_03:I'll just show you this. You see the benefit, but then when you start venting and uh and and they start unpacking, and then they tell you you the problem, and you look at them like, bitch, I'm paying you, you shut the fuck up.
SPEAKER_01:You can't do that. You can't do that. I hate y'all. Don't do that. Don't do that.
SPEAKER_04:I'm paying you to be on my side.
SPEAKER_01:No, that's not what you're doing. Which leads me to the next question.
SPEAKER_04:You turn into the goddamn video. How the fuck are you gonna tell me about some shit you don't understand?
SPEAKER_01:You don't even know me. That's so sad. That's actually so sad because there are people that actually do that and they walk away with nothing. Yeah, my yeah, I was going to ask you without specifics of your business, what would be a goal in going to therapy? And I'm gonna and I'm gonna tell you why I'm asking that. Because I think that when people go to therapy, a lot of times when they put themselves in that setting, they don't know what the gain is supposed to be, right? And I look at therapy as there's a lot that fall under these umbrellas, but you could be going to therapy to either have someone to talk to um and be able to like basically get it out to have somebody that you have a platform you can express and it's not an in a non-judgment, you know, they're not judging you. Or the opposite of that is going to therapy because I want you to help me figure out my whys, and I want you to help me figure out my going forwards. So, out of those two examples, which one do you think that you're going for?
SPEAKER_00:I'm going for the second one, but I kind of feel like I I I get there from starting with the first one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's fair.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna just say right now, if you think he's about to sit down and be validated, I don't want validation.
SPEAKER_00:I just know there's certain shit that because they ain't gonna do that shit. There's certain shit I've I feel like I was dealt unfairly growing up that the way my family acts, they didn't they didn't give a fuck. They didn't just say, Oh, well, yeah, you know, you shouldn't have to go through that at four. Or you shouldn't have to go through that at six. Oh, they should. Or you shouldn't, like, it's like, but so you're they act like it never happened, so it's like if I say anything, it's like nigga, stop bitching. Like, like, like yeah, they hit you with the get over it. Yeah, like so.
SPEAKER_04:Man, fuck you, bitch ass nigga. How the fuck are you gonna tell me that's some shit? You and it what it did to me.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, do that in therapy. Okay, they're gonna put you out. Yes, you can. You can can you? Hell yeah. Oh my god, I've never been aggressive with a therapist.
SPEAKER_00:I'm not aggressive with her. What it did to me psychologically, yeah, it did, it did fuck me up, and I and I never really talked to anybody about it.
SPEAKER_01:So it's like I know when you were talking about writing, um, in my mind that went to like journaling or like even like if you really want to go deeper, um kind of like how I in my prayer, right? So or my practice of prayer. Um do you find yourself having like therapeutic moments within like your craft within rapping and all that type of stuff?
SPEAKER_00:Definitely. Okay, there's been a lot of times where I've I've had breakthroughs of of certain realizations and in a in a verse or a line, and I'm like, damn. Yeah, damn, nigga. Like you just look in the mirror, like, damn, you did that. Like you just figured that shit out in one little verse. How do you do that shit?
SPEAKER_01:Like, yeah, because it's interesting to hear. A lot of people in in like the wellness world, everybody will tell you, oh, write it out. And you know, there's even techniques where before you go to sleep at night, you write out all of the bad things from the day because you're letting them out, right?
SPEAKER_03:My therapist told me that shit yesterday. My head hurt.
SPEAKER_01:She doesn't like you. I'm gonna tell you right now, she you pay her, so she's cool with everything, but she doesn't like you. She likes no, I'm saying like that's a technique, that's an actual technique. So when you were talking about how like your writing process, that took me there. So I was just, you know.
SPEAKER_00:So even without therapy, I'm getting some sort of uh yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's dope.
SPEAKER_00:I like that.
SPEAKER_03:And remember, in in your back pocket, you can always say, How the fuck are you gonna tell me about some shit you ain't experienced?
SPEAKER_01:That's true.
SPEAKER_00:I I'm not that kind of person. That's a bad one. But I will influence. I would I might because he's trash. I'm the kind of look at you like, okay, now let me like I that's me. That's I I'll let me process the shit that you just told me. Like that, that's me. But I'm not usually the look here, motherfucker. I can't.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, there's been a time.
SPEAKER_00:If I get there, fuck.
SPEAKER_03:There's been a time out there that has pissed me the fuck off. I'm like, you know, we're done for today.
unknown:Why?
SPEAKER_03:Why? I said that let me process the fuck you just said. I will I'll I'll see you next week, goddammit.
SPEAKER_04:Because right now I'm in my feelings. I'm not gonna have an honest conversation.
SPEAKER_01:That's when you throw the technique she done gave you back on her. You know, I'm gonna need a moment.
SPEAKER_04:I gotta breathe right now.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, fuck Drake and his writing team because I cannot use Drake in the damn gym because Jim that Drake in the gym also enters me into have and being in my feelings.
SPEAKER_01:Shut up.
SPEAKER_00:So, whatever team he's using, fuck y'all. Because y'all got me in my feelings. I used to.
SPEAKER_04:I can't do it.
SPEAKER_01:I thought you were.
SPEAKER_00:I don't hate him, but back in the day, before this whole Kendrick thing, it was like I was listening to the street.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, that was a softer drink back in the day.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and I would listen and I'd be like, This shit got me in my feelings. And I started sitting here.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna listen to Marvin from today. That's the one you're gonna do. That's the one that's super in my feelings.
SPEAKER_04:Are you drunk right now?
SPEAKER_00:Most yeah, mostly now I listen to a lot of GNX.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Good way to go.
SPEAKER_00:Because I hear hey now, say now, and I just that's what I used to uh my yin deadlift.
SPEAKER_03:I need uh no, I'm just I'll back on Mr. Morale.
SPEAKER_00:I fuck with Mr. I I saw Count Me out this morning, I was like, that's my shit. I've been listening.
SPEAKER_03:Push these niggas off me like what do you listen to, Captain? I listen to Rob, I just haven't been listening. You listen to Green Day. Nah, I listened to Ben Howard. Ben Howard was the guy.
SPEAKER_00:Smashing pumpkins. That depends on my mood.
SPEAKER_03:I did have some smashing pumpkins the other day. How'd you know? That's me.
SPEAKER_00:Damn.
SPEAKER_03:Sorry. Alright, you ready?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, we're here already?
SPEAKER_03:You ready? We're here. You guys got any more? No, I'm good. Let's get to it. I think you know. Top 50. Yeah. I was gonna say, I was gonna do I was gonna do 100.
SPEAKER_01:Y'all are done. Y'all are done.
SPEAKER_03:And this is dead or alive. Top five.
SPEAKER_00:Alright. We're gonna go.
SPEAKER_03:You wanna switch them between like local and then all time?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we could do that. Okay. So you want me to do local first? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It's just it's your bro. I'm just a scroll.
SPEAKER_00:Locally, I fuck with Quincy Jones.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Um, Dirty Birdie. This is no particular order either.
SPEAKER_01:Um we talk about the real Quincy Jones. That's me.
SPEAKER_00:Just mean oh, uh Dirty Birdie. Um Curtis King. Uh my fuck. I know this one's uh King Dice, and my last one. This was a hard one because there's a lot of guys I'll fuck with. Far. Um Dad Heathen. I haven't I haven't heard from Dad Heathen in years, but that nigga. That's fine. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I was just making sure one name went on the list. You asshole.
SPEAKER_00:There's a lot of niggas I'll fuck with. It's just I just pause. Uh it's just I those particular, they've done certain verses or lines where I was like, that's crazy. How the fuck did you do that? Um then on a bigger scale, um, Stutter McFly. Uh Jay-Z.
SPEAKER_03:Jay Z. Jay-Z or Ho?
SPEAKER_00:It's two different frame of mind.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. It's different. He rapped different when he ho. I guess Ho. Sometimes.
SPEAKER_00:That Braggadoce shit. Ho.
SPEAKER_03:Ho talk is shit.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You see me, nigga?
SPEAKER_00:Eminem.
SPEAKER_03:Well, is it Eminem or Marshall? I was gonna tell you.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, I'm only gonna be like, we had a clarification from him.
SPEAKER_03:Marshall is the white guy. Eminem is the rap guy. Well, yeah. Marshall came out and was like, these chicks don't even know. Oh shit.
SPEAKER_04:My band, my man, my I fuck with that guy though.
SPEAKER_00:For me, it's gonna be obvious if you hear my styles, Joe Budden. I love Joe.
SPEAKER_01:Really?
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:A lot of his mood music got me through a lot of shit.
SPEAKER_01:Um music. Oh.
SPEAKER_00:And then this one is just because of how it gets me in a frame of mind and learning more about him after he passed was Nipsey Hustle.
SPEAKER_02:So yeah, it's a different name's different song. Yeah, I can't listen to it that much anymore. It's weird. Well, Nipsey? Yeah, it's weird. After he died, I was like, man, this is fucked up. It made me want to listen more. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I just You gotta go back and listen to listen to his mixtapes.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I listened to Oh, I was listening to him since he came out. And then like once it, like, I was like, man, this shit. It's like it kind of like pissed me off, I guess.
SPEAKER_01:I I you know what I feel when I listen to Nipsey? Like, I go in like little stages, like I'll just listen to it, that's it, for like a month, and then I won't listen to him for like a while.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But like for me, I'd be like, fuck, I'm really not about to ever hear no new Nipsey. And that's why I don't really No, you are. We're gonna be like It's gonna be weird though. I just I just I think it's gonna be weird.
SPEAKER_03:It might be dope. I think it's actually halfway done, so or mostly done. So the album. The album. I just always go back and watch how how quickly you smacked those boys' ass. They gonna walk up on him? I say, I that's my sphered animal.
SPEAKER_01:I just don't walk up.
SPEAKER_00:The dope thing about Nipsey was it it put me in a uh it puts me in an interesting perspective when I hear his music, which if you can influence me like that, that's what why everyone's on my list, include myself, will put me in a certain frame of mind. And if you can influence me like that to change my perspective in a like I've literally thrown up gang signs and know what the fuck I'm throwing up listening to Nipsey. I don't know why. Please don't do that, MLA. I don't, I'm not. It's just I'm in my in the comfort of my car, and I just be listening to Sucker Proof. And you know what I'm saying? Like I'll just be like, I fuck with this, or uh hustle and motivate, or uh real big or whatever, and I'm like in the middle? Yeah, it's just it puts me in a frame of mind. If you can do if you can influence me like that, that you have the yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I just hate how he was like put in a box. Yeah, he he was like really put in a box. Like I think it's I they do, but it's kind of like, and then when somebody dies, of course, here they go, they rob us above, but he was really put in a box because his brand you you know who who kind of fell off quick after they died, you know, sad was Pop.
SPEAKER_03:So Pop died, pop Pop Smoke died, and like he knew the shot up. They released his album, and then like literally two weeks after the album, like no one was talking about. Well, you gotta here's the thing about Pop Smoke. He was what, 20? Yeah, he didn't have music after that. Like Mipsi had a catalog release, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02:So you could go back and listen to back to OA.
SPEAKER_03:People still say rest in peace to Triple X. Yeah. Yeah. But he has a, he had a he built a little catalog.
SPEAKER_00:And yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And he made a following network. Yeah, nuts.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Were you like, oh shit, these motherfuckers might kill you.
SPEAKER_01:Like, but it's like the influence or the impact that you actually make. Like, and I just I personally like coming from a female's perspective, like, in Nipsey being like my favorite rapper, like he he would like talk about God and everything in his raps. Like, and that's why I hate when he gets put in a box. Because it's like, did you really listen to Nipsey? Like, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03:Like, they listen to what's popular.
SPEAKER_01:Everybody's just like, that's what I was saying about like when I was at work and they was like, go the fuck Donald Trump. Like, that was YG song. Shut up. But I mean, he had a verse on it. I'm not saying, but it's just like that's how people, I'm using that as an example to say, like, that's how people really put you in a box.
SPEAKER_03:Like, he was talking about some real shit. That's why people say Tupac was a thug. If you listen to his music, he wasn't a thug.
SPEAKER_01:No. He was a further thing from the thug. But the nigga got thugged last year. Poetic. He dug himself.
SPEAKER_02:He went to art school.
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Oh my god, all those pictures of him in art school. I was like, my nigga. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:He grew up as a panther, basically, but he wasn't out there thugging and bugging.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. But he had to have a brand, right? Yeah. And so that's the brand that he came into. I always say Tupac was, I felt like he was an entertainer.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:He was a bone thugs thug. Troops only United Gathering Souls.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. But um the thing about Nempsey too was what it a lot of people didn't realize. He was super lyrical when he first would change his style and made something worse for him, which is again, I said you realize what it works, well go with it.
SPEAKER_03:He was set of lyrics were like uh set of line, say Jay's line.
SPEAKER_00:Which one? I used to rap Oh uh I used to want to write ROM like common sense till I did five mil and I have been Rhym like Common Sense.
SPEAKER_03:But his give him my money. To be honest, his brand switch was smart.
SPEAKER_02:And he told you in the throughout it how it was uh he was like, I have influence, so now I have to figure out how to use it. So it's either do I keep making this gangbang music or do I switch over and try to help motherfuckers like change their mind.
SPEAKER_00:And his interviews were always made that oh my god, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I love to hear about that.
SPEAKER_00:His interviews were always fucking I love to hear about that. Man, you're gonna get something out of this.
SPEAKER_01:That's I like how he said, even like how you said the brand switch up, and he was I saw an interview where he was talking about Cardi B dumbass, and he was saying, because she was she was saying, I shouldn't have did that. Yeah, you're right. But and she will on her own time. In context for what I'm about to say, that's what I'm saying. Her dumb ass.
SPEAKER_03:And make sure her ass say the heavyweight podcast. Have you not heard pretty and petty?
SPEAKER_01:I don't give a fuck. I don't care about none of that shit. Diarrhea beer. Um she had said flu, right? So that was like disrespect, talking about blue, right? Yeah, and so Nipsey was talking about like you're a name now. Like, you know what I'm saying? He was like, and he broke it down. Like he's like, when I'm around my my my people, like I might say, like, oh, give me a dead bull or whatever. Like, I I do speak like that. But now that I have this fucking platform in front of all these people, it's kind of like now you at work. You're at work, like all that shit you do, like, yeah, that's how you do, and that's how you move or whatever. But now you're at work, like tone that shit down. And it's just like that's how what his evolution looked like. Like, and a lot of people don't, you know, but people be playing. I think carton's.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's energy though. Maybe playing that's off energy. Because it's like if you go out with a certain way, then that energy comes back to you. So if you're gonna be disrespectful in a certain way where everybody sees you, then you just have to deal with what comes with that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So it's like, it's probably better to just not do that on camera or just, you know, try to figure out how to switch it up.
SPEAKER_01:But yeah, I mean, the biggest, I think he used that example in the interview too. Like, rap beef back in the day, like Biggie and Pop died. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, and now it's just like, do you really want to be in that type of rap niggas still dying?
SPEAKER_03:They just 50 kill him in a different way.
SPEAKER_01:Shut up. I think now is 50 is he's a problem.
SPEAKER_03:It's different because it's more Mr.
SPEAKER_01:Jackson? Like, I feel like he be at home bored.
SPEAKER_00:He does. I mean, he got enough money to be bored.
SPEAKER_04:His money is making him money, he ain't gotta work.
SPEAKER_00:I mean I'd rather petty 50.
SPEAKER_04:He'd be at home bored.
SPEAKER_00:50. I'm ruining people's life. If you went out of your way to make sure that that damn interview was seen on channel 7, one of the rare channels that could be seen in prison.
SPEAKER_01:He's horrible.
SPEAKER_00:I inspire, aspire to be that type of petty.
SPEAKER_04:Think about how much he thought about the whole movie.
SPEAKER_00:And then when the lady asked him, what do you think Diddy would feel about this? I think he loves it.
SPEAKER_04:I think he I didn't even wonder. Why'd he say shit and smile? He's killing me. I said this nigga. Many man. Man, he's a problem.
SPEAKER_00:Somebody asked me about what do I feel about Diddy's um fall from grace? And I said, You think it was all the baby oil?
SPEAKER_04:It was slippery.
SPEAKER_00:I hold him. Because you know baby oil could be slippery. I tried to hold this in.
SPEAKER_03:I can't grip you. Did y'all see that AI video of the fucking the big uh of Johnson and Johnson getting backed up to the prison?
SPEAKER_00:Anywho. What's up, Kevin? You like my top five?
SPEAKER_03:I love your top five. Yes. It was good. Yes, it was good. That was great. Well, let's let's transition since this is the last episode of the year. I'm gonna ask y'all this then. Oh, Kevin's gonna ask us questions. Go ahead, Kevin. Oh shit. We'll start it off like this. What's your guys' plans for Christmas? Gonna be home? Gonna be out? Um be broke. I was like, you gave me a weird look like you mad that I asked. I'm gonna be fucking broke.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's what I was thinking about. Uh broke?
SPEAKER_03:I thought she cut me slack this year. Because no, she asked, she asked for a new bedroom. But then everything she picked out. The whole bedroom. Yeah. Yeah, that's not cheap.
SPEAKER_01:The baby?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. But then the bed she wants is$800. Oh, that's a steal.
SPEAKER_01:That's a steal of his money.
SPEAKER_00:Something to steal. Okay, so um Christmas.
SPEAKER_01:Christmas is in five days, y'all. Where are you gonna do? And I okay.
SPEAKER_03:Well, four days after they hear this, he's gonna be traveling.
SPEAKER_01:I actually Christmas. I I feel like I ruined Christmas. I didn't do the whole job.
SPEAKER_04:Um, you invite no buy nothing?
SPEAKER_01:No. Okay, so Christmas tree. We were talking about a my Christmas tree last time, right? So I got excited. I love convenience. I found out that Home Depot delivers Christmas trees. Oh, you got a good one. That motherfucker just came yesterday.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I thought I was like, where's this going? Like, you fucked up Christmas because you got a tree.
SPEAKER_01:I it just came yesterday. Uh-oh. And then I don't know why. I couldn't find my stand from last year. I think my kids whatever. Couldn't find my stand from last year. Long story short, I don't have a stand. Is Lena on corner? It's not even off the box, y'all. Okay. Because what I'm gonna do with it. It's artificial. Last night, my kids They don't come in school. This is a real tree, guys.
SPEAKER_03:It's in the box.
SPEAKER_01:They sent you a tree in the box. Yeah, because Home Depot delivers. I will never do this again.
SPEAKER_03:Cut the sides and just leave the box at the bottom.
SPEAKER_01:I will new.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna look into that tree that I had and see if it's still kicking.
SPEAKER_01:So, long story short, we couldn't find a stand last night. I was making tamales, so I ended up sending basically we couldn't find a stand.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:And um, a lot of the stores are sold out of stands. So if I don't find a stand today, we're not gonna have a Christmas tree. And I don't give a fuck at this point.
SPEAKER_03:You ain't gonna lean it? Just go get a sticker. Let's just lean it.
SPEAKER_00:Showderling. Just gonna be on the wall. Just sitting there like this on the yeah. Just got off the wall, off the wall.
SPEAKER_01:Put a little cigarette on it.
SPEAKER_00:The microphone.
SPEAKER_01:Bottom of your heart. Like you said, you you ain't gonna lean it. You bought it, Elliot. It's gonna be falling all on the present.
SPEAKER_00:You got the off-the-wall tree. That's all I'm gonna do. Get a little jumpsuit and put a little cigarette on the box.
SPEAKER_03:How long does this tree been in the box?
SPEAKER_01:No, I just it just came to my house yesterday. I ordered it the first week of 15.
SPEAKER_03:So when but when's the last time it's been watered? In the box, really?
SPEAKER_01:I just sent it. No, it's not. They deliver trees. Have you looked? Is it brown? No, tonight I was, I mean tonight. Last night I was over it. Because like I said, I was making tamales. I was up till 11, and I literally was just like, I'm pissed off about that tree. I can't look at it. And I went to sleep. This morning I came here. Avoid it. So when I get yes, very much so. So when I get home, he's right. Literally a thing that I do. When I get home, I'll be ready. When I get home, I'll be ready to open the box. Did he pick it?
unknown:Did he be pits?
SPEAKER_01:I'm probably gonna lean it. Between here and my home, I'm gonna try to see if I can find a crystal a tree stand and we're gonna lean it. Like Kevin suggested.
SPEAKER_03:All you gotta do is go to a Home Depot.
SPEAKER_01:Should have one. No, we that's where I intended on.
SPEAKER_03:What you have to do is you have to go to one of those mom and pop lots and sell trees. Oh, yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_01:That's true. We'll do that on my way home. House my green thumb.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You ever thought about planting it outside and then putting a Christmas tree?
SPEAKER_01:You can do that too. You can go buy it.
SPEAKER_00:I learned that the hard way. It stays alive.
SPEAKER_03:You can go buy two one by fours and just nail them to the bottom of the tree.
SPEAKER_01:I'm probably gonna have to do something like that. But it's gonna have to go up today. And like I said, it's five days together.
SPEAKER_03:But it's dead.
SPEAKER_01:It's not dead.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, you only got a couple of days anyway. Fuck it.
SPEAKER_01:Fuck it, right? And my poor baby, my you know, my older kids, they could care less. But my five-year-old is just mommy, where's the Christmas tree? What's going on? Santa ain't dropped it off the Christmas tree. Santa don't drop off the damn Christmas tree.
SPEAKER_03:We get to make it all up. Yep.
SPEAKER_01:But other than that, I always find mine Christmas. I will say I'm going to a Christmas party tonight, and you know, that's fucked up. What?
SPEAKER_03:We just heard about that. I wasn't going anywhere. I mean, I was gonna say no. Uh he said, where's the e-vite? Right.
SPEAKER_01:Um shut up. I'm going to one. I'm not having one.
SPEAKER_03:Um I tried to cook. Uh I suggested that we make gumble for Christmas because I don't want to cook. Oh. That's cooking still. But I wasn't gonna cook the gumble. Oh, okay. I was like, you gotta make that rude, that shit. Yeah, I wasn't gonna do it. And then I was informed that my that my mother-in-law is I forgot I always forget that she's allergic to shellfish. So I was like, so she can just so I told my wife, I said, well, she can just not eat. No, but she can't even be she can't even be by it. Oh, like in the house. Yeah, she swallowed. Oh so I will now be cooking shrimp once a week.
SPEAKER_02:I knew that.
SPEAKER_03:See, that's why I was like, this nigga is oh yeah, you oh well we had shrimp. So don't, yeah, no.
SPEAKER_01:I don't want you to hurt. I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_00:You cook with a picture of 50 in front of you, too? Yes, I should.
SPEAKER_01:What are your Christmas plans?
SPEAKER_00:Uh I don't want to um incriminate myself. I just said I'm preparing for the same food I get every year.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Smart guy. I don't want to.
SPEAKER_00:So what you trying to say?
SPEAKER_03:When it easier you should just say fuck it and just and cook your own food.
SPEAKER_00:I just know I never have to cheat my meal prep or diet during the holidays.
SPEAKER_01:You never have to.
SPEAKER_00:I never have to like Sean.
SPEAKER_03:He's not lying. He's being kind. He's not lying. I'm trying to be as well when he when he tells me when he gets, I'll be like, that's not true.
SPEAKER_01:Do I need to bring you a plate next time? Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:He didn't even exit.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:There's a reason every time you share a foot, I'm like, oh yeah, he do.
SPEAKER_01:Oh well, you know what? It's so funny. I hate doing this when I don't look listen. What?
SPEAKER_03:Whenever I have extra food, I'll call him.
SPEAKER_00:Say, yeah, go ahead and it looks like a drug transaction.
SPEAKER_03:I said, go ahead and swing why I got you a page.
SPEAKER_01:I was like, not a drug transaction.
SPEAKER_00:It does. Like we were literally at one point. We stopped, our cars met, we it was a little side, side side parking lot. We literally exchanged a plate. It looked like a drug transaction. Wow. It doesn't help that we're in Merino Valley. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I intended on bringing y'all to Molly's today, but this morning I ran into how I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03:No, it ain't even your fault.
unknown:Oh God.
SPEAKER_03:You didn't have to say it. You just left that to yourself.
SPEAKER_04:I know, and I was gonna say that.
SPEAKER_00:It's like I was going to, but I didn't. So I didn't.
SPEAKER_01:No, and I was gonna say I don't like to say, like, oh, I was gonna. Like, why the fuck did you even tell me?
SPEAKER_03:I said it because you remind me. So after this I have a birthday party, I gotta take my daughter too. Right. And then tonight we got a goddamn fucking tamale party.
SPEAKER_00:That's what I was thinking. That's you, honestly.
SPEAKER_03:My whole fucking day is done.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_03:And all I want to do is lay down.
SPEAKER_01:That's why I had this drink. I don't usually drink in the morning, but I was like, I got a long day ahead of me.
SPEAKER_03:So you don't have to convince us. Talk to your therapist.
SPEAKER_01:I don't usually I don't usually do this kind of thing, guys. I don't do a therapist. You kind of convince me. Shut up. I don't. Um, I was up late. Probably gonna be up late today.
SPEAKER_02:So I'm sorry. That's I'm laughing because when you said I was up late and then you said 11, I was like, that's Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Y'all don't know me. That's late as hell.
SPEAKER_03:11 is late as fuck me. I'm getting what you're saying, but I can sleep at 4:30.
SPEAKER_01:I'll be in the van at 8.
SPEAKER_03:The masses went.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_06:Hold up, hold up.
SPEAKER_03:Kevin, what are you doing for Christmas?
SPEAKER_02:I I'll be everywhere and then work. Oh, damn. So I gotta go. We're doing different food this year. We're not we're going southern this year.
SPEAKER_00:Are you gonna enjoy the food?
SPEAKER_02:But I was like, we always do southern shit anyway. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:What the fuck? Are you gonna enjoy the plates? The plates? Are you not eating?
SPEAKER_03:You're not cooking? Yeah, yeah. 100%. You're not cooking? Amanda's making something. Oh, yeah, I'm not coming here. It's not here. We're gonna be.
SPEAKER_01:What is she gonna make?
SPEAKER_03:No, the peppercini roast is good. It's actually good. That's the one thing that's that I get all the time.
SPEAKER_01:She got that off a tent.
SPEAKER_03:No, the roast. Roast. Oh, peppercini roast.
SPEAKER_02:Roast.
SPEAKER_04:I have seen that.
SPEAKER_02:It's good. He didn't have none.
SPEAKER_03:Didn't your wife forget to put the cheese in the mac and cheese? Well, that's the mac and cheese. That's black people food. But it's called mac and cheese good with a. No, it wasn't mac and cheese. It was uh casserole. The cheese and tunic or the milk uh cheese and chicken casserole. Cheese, chicken, and rice.
SPEAKER_01:Y'all.
SPEAKER_03:And then she just left the cheese on the side.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, we can cook. Okay, you can. Oh, hold on.
SPEAKER_03:First of all, this nigga got Miss Tammy.
SPEAKER_01:His mama?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Miss Tammy be throwing down. You hear me? Okay. When I walked in there today, Miss Tammy was cooking that bacon. I said, I'm not even gonna have this. But go ahead, give me. But I turned into Jamie Fox. I said, I can't give a bacon that white women.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you gotta eat good.
SPEAKER_04:You know, the times I come over here and she over there and she's smothering potatoes and shit. I'm like, oh my God. I be wanting to get a plate.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not at home, but I want to get the plate.
SPEAKER_01:So we have we I sometimes I'll do gumbo for Christmas, but or I usually will wait till New Year's.
SPEAKER_03:Um with the okra, right?
SPEAKER_01:Fuck no. Hell no.
SPEAKER_03:This has been my last motherfucking episode on this motherfucker. This nigga talking about okra.
SPEAKER_04:If I find okra and gumbo, I'm shooting everybody.
SPEAKER_01:It goes in this. Yeah, it does. No, it don't.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it does. Um I'll be out there with them niggas in the swamp.
SPEAKER_01:But we usually we like to do brunch on Christmas.
SPEAKER_04:He said, Black folks do brunch every holiday because we ain't cooking no breath.
SPEAKER_01:You eating when dinner is yeah, but I'll do like shrimp and grits. I'll make the use the waffle maker for the waffle. Hey, I had grits for the first time two weeks ago. The first time?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. You had grits for the first time? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:How'd you have them?
SPEAKER_03:Did you like them? I had shrimp and grits. Okay. My wife had ordered them. She's like, just try them. I'll say I ain't never had them. From where? Did you like them? From R.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:It was pretty good. Grit them off. But but I think it was kind of like the roux from the roux in there. That's the only way I can eat grits. But I was like, I was like, this shit ain't nothing but fucking mash. It's gross. Nah. Grits are not.
SPEAKER_01:I love grits. I eat grits by themselves all the time. Well, no, no, no, no, no. Sugar and nothing. No, I don't see when you put sugar in grits, you might as well fucking eat cream of wheat.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't eat cream. I grew up on cream of wheat. Don't come for it. I love cream of wheat. They ain't the same, though. But that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01:They're different. So when I eat grits, they're supposed to be butter and salt and pepper.
SPEAKER_03:Uh well, I had my grits with I had my grit with my grits with it.
SPEAKER_01:I had it with a uh but I make shrimp and grits too.
SPEAKER_03:It was shrimp and grits, and they had a roux, and then I had a uh catfish in there too.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Which it was fire. Why you whisper that? That's it.
SPEAKER_01:He's annoying. He's like trying to hide it from himself. I'm not an age.
SPEAKER_00:I wasn't supposed to eat it, but I catfish in there. Like like you got Joseph's picking up over the table, like, so nigga, you eating catfish too? Hold on.
SPEAKER_04:This nigga Joseph ride.
SPEAKER_03:I told Joseph, I said, man, I'm gonna get back to it, bro. He said, he said, he said, to be honest, your problem is when I put you on a deficit, you do good. But when I tell you you can have calories, you just go off the wood.
SPEAKER_00:I said, Well, I understand that problem.
SPEAKER_03:In my defense, I have been denying myself these things for so long. And now you're saying I can have some of them. And so I don't think I ate like four round of the other day. This ain't about me though. So, New Year's, how you guys New Year's.
SPEAKER_01:Do y'all stay home for New Year's? I'm too old. Yeah, I don't party. I don't think I've been anywhere. You wanna have about 13 years now.
SPEAKER_02:I have a feeling I'll be in LA.
SPEAKER_03:I might be in Vegas, but I'm gonna be at my brother's house in his house.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I don't want to be out, but I feel like something's gonna break to where I'm gonna have to be out at midnight. Man, I'm not here with these motherfuckers.
SPEAKER_01:No. My my New Year's Day, my kids can't stand me on New Year's. No, New Year's Eve. Because it's like take the Christmas tree down. It's a whole thing. We're decluttering the house. It's a whole thing.
SPEAKER_03:Just right away? Oh, so that's your uh are you reset for the year? Don't breathe a little bit. You do the black-eyed peas. That's the woman's black-eyed peas. Oh, nigga, don't eat away. You don't do black-eyed peas in here? I don't like easy.
SPEAKER_01:I don't eat black-eyed peas, nigga.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I thought that was a good-eyed peas and greens on New Year's Day.
SPEAKER_01:That's a nigga thing. I don't eat black-eyed peas. You don't eat black-eyed peas on New Year's Day? What is your problem?
SPEAKER_04:I don't eat black-eyed peas, period.
SPEAKER_01:I don't give a fuck. You eat them on New Year's Day.
SPEAKER_03:No, I don't, but I'll eat them greens or spoon.
SPEAKER_01:There you go. At the very least, you're supposed to have your spoonful.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, New Year's Day. My father-in-law, he makes greens, black-eyed chickens, black eye peas, yeah. And chitlins.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Oh, I don't fuck with chitlins, though. My father does chickens for Christmas.
SPEAKER_03:Nobody in here will be. I'll just be. I'm like, we just made all these chitlins for me. My wife won't eat them, would you? You make them here? I ain't made chitlins and so.
SPEAKER_01:Don't have us do the podcast on the day that these girls have.
SPEAKER_03:I made some chitlins in the apartment for the first time with Amanda.
SPEAKER_04:Like Amanda never smelled them, and she was like, oh my God, what is this?
SPEAKER_03:Every time I think about chillins, I'm like, I don't know. Chitlins are crazy. I need my grain to make them. So that's not gonna happen because you know. And then she would cook the chitlins and then take them out.
SPEAKER_01:You want to know what's so small.
SPEAKER_03:Hold on. She would cook the chitlins and then take them out and then and then deep fry something from my grandfather. You ever had them fried? I had a half fried.
SPEAKER_01:Nigga, you're going to the hospital. Fried chitlins?
SPEAKER_03:Which is the fire.
SPEAKER_01:Sound like a hard one.
SPEAKER_03:No, no, I think the hell Mexicans are doing it. Three bus. Yeah, that's just gonna be at the house.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I always. And then plus I like to This nigga look triggered about we did talk about chitlins.
SPEAKER_03:He went, mmm.
SPEAKER_01:What's wrong with Clark?
SPEAKER_03:Nothing.
SPEAKER_01:You just had to check out for a second.
SPEAKER_03:It's crazy that I'll eat chillins, but I won't eat ass.
SPEAKER_01:You are. So um you know your wife better than you know them chitlins. I'll tell you.
SPEAKER_00:I do. Yeah, I do. New Year's, I'll be in the house, even though I think I've gotten so used to hood living. I expect to lay on the floor for no reason.
SPEAKER_03:Hood living. It don't matter. Nowadays they start shooting off fireworks three weeks ago. It's gonna be fireworks on Christmas Day. I don't know where they're getting these fireworks from. Yeah, they shoot these shits all the time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they do. I like being a house.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, where are you laying on the floor?
SPEAKER_00:No reason.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I I have I do have a message for um I think I think the man's name is Joshua Hernandez. Sir, um, if you want to buy my house, the price is 10 million. Stop texting me and emailing me. I don't care how up and coming my neighborhood is, it is 10 million. For 10 million, you can have the house as is.
SPEAKER_01:Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, yeah. I mean, if you want mine too, same.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I'll take I'll take six.
SPEAKER_03:Nah, if you're giving 10, I'm taking 10.
SPEAKER_01:My house is not in an upcoming isn't either.
SPEAKER_04:Well, I mean, I guess technically they they say it is because everything's being built, but it's 10 million, nigga.
SPEAKER_01:I live in an old neighborhood, but they're building new shit. So that's up and coming.
SPEAKER_03:You know, because now they got the they just finished the bike park, the little ramp and shit. Oh, that oh, I said, Oh, these niggas trying to gentrify. They're trying to get us out of here.
SPEAKER_01:We just got a splash pad.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, you got a splash pad.
SPEAKER_03:The splash pad is the worst thing ever. Wait, give it a couple summers. After going to celebration park for three, four years, I said, mm, this is this is where the hood kids is at.
SPEAKER_00:Because we have a splash pad down the way, but you start realizing that nigga, y'all ain't from here. Where you live at? You don't live around here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That's fucked up. That's where we at. That's where we at now.
SPEAKER_03:You came all the way over here and just use a splash pad, nigga. Kevin, the splash pad is about four miles from my house. And when I drive over there, now again, it's a whole different community of houses, right? But we live in the area.
SPEAKER_04:But you can definitely tell that y'all niggas live on the other side of the freeway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all niggas live in Riverside. I know too. Not staying.
SPEAKER_01:I haven't been to that. You probably plenty of birthdays. I do not live in Rain Valley, that's for sure.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we had a whole lot of shit on the HOA page with the basketball court. What happened? They're like, who are these kids? These niggas don't live here.
SPEAKER_00:They said that too, huh?
SPEAKER_03:They probably said something different. I will say this though. Out here is the only place I found that has a public park with a handball court. So every now and again we do come out here and play handball. So we do travel like jail handball?
SPEAKER_04:No, like handball, like like the playground, yeah. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03:I think that's a good idea.
SPEAKER_04:I come, I bring my daughter.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Do you guys have resolutions?
SPEAKER_03:What the hell is that? I do actually. I have uh New Year's goals? Well, I I normally always say to get fit, but I'm already fit. So I ain't got shit to I'm I guess I just want to be on more balconies. I saw that coming. Fair. Yeah. Fair. Okay. That's gonna be fun.
SPEAKER_01:Vacation? No.
SPEAKER_03:Not it could be a day. It ain't gotta be a week. We can be there for we can be there for a couple hours as long as I'm on the balcony.
SPEAKER_00:I just want to actually lock in and do a project for sure. Multiple projects.
SPEAKER_03:Do a producer, like a single producer.
SPEAKER_00:That'd be dope. I'm not, but I uh I don't have to be no Nas and Prime shit. Well, I mean I just know Master Green keep keep keep circling me. I'm like, yo, dude, just fucking send the beats. Let's go.
SPEAKER_03:The Nas and Preach, that's just that just came out recently, right? Yeah. And that's just somebody said, I think it was Eugene said, This nigga Nas picked every worst beat he bought me. I mean, it's Nas. The nigga can't rap anyway. Anyway, my resolution try to stop smoking.
SPEAKER_01:Oh what? Have you had that resolution?
SPEAKER_03:Cigarettes and weed, actually. I'm gonna try to all together? Yeah. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:How do you plan on do you how do you plan on facilitating? Or like how do you plan on doing that?
SPEAKER_03:I got pills over here for cigarettes. Oh. Oh, okay. Oh, so I'm kind of like you thought I was gonna supplement like is the fly back?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the fly is back. The fly is back. Yeah. I can't see through these shades. I can't do nothing about it.
SPEAKER_00:That damn fly. That fly been here is longer than everybody else and shit. That fly is crazy. Um picking on her, so I'm I'm chilling.
SPEAKER_02:It is.
SPEAKER_00:It might be my cologne.
SPEAKER_02:It ain't going to you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah, I'm gonna stop flexing my pecs.
SPEAKER_01:You want to stop smoking?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Marijuana?
SPEAKER_03:The reef or two?
SPEAKER_01:Why?
SPEAKER_03:The devil's lettuce? I ain't been like fucking not high in a long time. So let's see what that feels like. You feel like you're I'm not gonna I'm gonna still intake some, but I'm not gonna do it like this. Do you feel like you're only getting high to none yourself? And you want to feel the feels? No, I just I mean, I'll be feeling feels high.
SPEAKER_00:I remember my dad tried to stop smoking and he got so irritable.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna probably still like do edibles a little bit, but I don't want to put anything in my lungs for a while. Like a stop period. That would be dope. What else in your lungs? That's gay. Nick, whoa. What are you guys talking about? Whoa. It went down the wrong pipe.
unknown:Shut the fuck up.
SPEAKER_00:Uh um, but it tripped me out right before he passed when I talked to him and I was like, oh, there's this edible shop. He's like, I stopped smoking weed altogether. I just stopped doing weed. That shit really shocked me. Did that? That's what's up. Like right here.
SPEAKER_01:He just stopped on his phone, like stopped.
SPEAKER_03:And I want to get this business shit on straight. So well, nigga, get to it. All right, that's that's the resolution. But right now, we smoking.
SPEAKER_02:I got 17, 7 days, 8 days, I don't know. Sometime.
SPEAKER_01:Nah, start now.
SPEAKER_02:Nah, I'm gonna smoke on my dad's birthday because I'm gonna be lit.
SPEAKER_01:So what day is that?
SPEAKER_03:When this comes out. Happy birthday, Pop. Happy Heavenly birthday. Happy Heavenly birthday.
SPEAKER_00:Take some shots of Remedy. Now you're coming after me. Okay. You said it, baby.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna swing on you. You start swinging, I'm walking away. I am no resolutions. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I don't.
SPEAKER_03:That's it? It's just yeah, just the balconies. Oh, that's you said yours.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I just want to do a project for sure. You said yourself. I just want to continue. I want to say that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I haven't because I don't really I don't really have resolutions.
SPEAKER_03:I want to continue to grow personally.
SPEAKER_01:There you go.
SPEAKER_03:Pause. No. There's no pause there. Yeah. I don't want to see it.
SPEAKER_01:I don't want to see it. No.
SPEAKER_00:Like according to TikTok, Ashwagonda helps with not growing.
SPEAKER_01:Ashwagonda helps with what?
SPEAKER_00:Growth.
SPEAKER_04:With blood flow.
SPEAKER_01:I thought it's a stress reliever.
SPEAKER_00:According to TikTok, there's a lot of shit that supposedly helps with it.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah, I guess. I think we're gonna go ahead and uh wrap this up because we got shit to do. And you know what? Thank you guys for rocking with us. We'll see y'all next year. Thank you so much for doing this.
SPEAKER_00:It's been I don't know why it took so long for us to do this. Because I didn't, I when you asked before I said it made me look self-centered enough.
SPEAKER_03:I know he was being all modest and shit. And I was like, nigga, your bars are not modest. So let's get to it. Let's do it. Are you saying he's bragging in his raps? Hey, you gotta be a little bit.
SPEAKER_00:In the words of Diesel shout out to Diesel, you either um raps is either life talking about life or bragging.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That's literally what hip-hop is summed up to. You either bragging about something or you talking about life.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, I look forward to what we got in the future. Uh 2026. I someone said 2226. Uh it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be fun. I'm excited. And happy Christmas. Merry Christmas. Merry Holy Spirit. We don't say happy holidays over here. We say Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we say Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER_03:I know I fixed it right before I said it. So Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. And niggas die every day, B.
SPEAKER_01:Happy New Year, y'all.
SPEAKER_03:Goodbye.
SPEAKER_02:That's rap, y'all. That's that's how she wrapped. So make sure you click like, subscribe. Tune in. We're on Australia Breath or so. Until next time.
SPEAKER_01:We'll holla at you.
