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Mamba Mindset
Kobe. Kendrick. Greatness explained.
This episode unpacks what true excellence looks like by examining Kobe Bryant’s legendary dedication and Kendrick Lamar’s precise strategy. No fluff—just real talk about work ethic, sacrifice, and the mindset that separates the elite from everyone else.
We don’t just talk icons—we get personal about the discipline it takes to stay in the game.
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Speaker 2:The message behind saying the title of the Heavyweight Podcast is to be able to say that we can weigh in on some heavy shit. What we're talking about is important from every aspect of it. It's a heavy weight. It's not just about physical weight, but the weight of things that can weigh our minds. So I think it's dope that we can have this conversation mind. So I think it's dope that we can have this conversation. What's good? This is episode 206 of the heavyweight podcast. I am your anti-social host, studder McFly, back again with these two guys. Go ahead and state your name for the beautiful people out here. Burn to a crisp molito oh shit, I got nothing.
Speaker 1:I just you got nothing.
Speaker 2:Another nigga how are your weeks hot?
Speaker 3:uh hot yeah why fucking 106, 107 phoenix?
Speaker 2:I'm hot it's a light day. That's a light day, though.
Speaker 3:How much weight you lose with the sweat on top of the workout I think I'm I didn't know you could be uh super dehydrated from just living.
Speaker 1:I had to go get me one of them hiking backpacks a camelback with the water oh, man, you don't want to know what they used to call us when we used to wear those sound like some real racist shit it wasn't that. It was probably like regular world you be fired, yeah, but I mean it was a good time.
Speaker 3:We had a good time. You know, uh, baby girl did good at camp. She met some people that she's talking about, all my friends. You'll never see them again. Um, so you think yeah yeah, you know um, you know, I went to some other gyms. How were the gyms? I got good workouts in.
Speaker 1:They were there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, people were there. People were there People. Yeah, people were there. Me and my wife and I, we endured ourselves.
Speaker 2:Oh, you went together.
Speaker 3:Yes, of course. For shizzle, of course, of course. Yes, I wasn't double tapping any talent. Yeah, yes, you know, I'm going to say it's you know what. You know? Sun's out and they are dressed appropriately, mm-hmm, and I'm a man with eyes.
Speaker 1:That was the best part about living there. Yeah, Other than you know heat, I got dark. I was a naked nigga. I'm.
Speaker 3:Berto Chris Like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, smashed the mic.
Speaker 3:I knew it was hot when I went and bought sunscreen.
Speaker 1:That's funny. I said well, that's the first place that got sunburned. That's funny. I said whoa, that's the first place that got sunburned.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:It's right here. My week was hot, but it was different. Hot it was, it was it was it was Vegas hot. So Sin City, huh, Just laid in the pool Just to the pool.
Speaker 1:I brought my little gasoline tank, brought little John and the Eastside Boys back Just drinking soda out of that. You didn't have your crunk juice. Yeah, we just chilled man, had a little getaway and then came back and back to it. That's it, you know. Back to the grind. You know Don't the grind. You know Don't stop. Got a final First thing done.
Speaker 3:That's cool, that's cool.
Speaker 1:No, I'm lying, it's just a test, oh.
Speaker 3:Who is this? I thought it was a final.
Speaker 1:It's one of the kids. Yeah, they didn't even close the goddamn door Did you fire a week.
Speaker 2:It's one of the kids. Yeah, they didn't even close the goddamn door fire week my week was cool, kindle go. Oh it was cool. I just uh went to work, realized that that was the last uh holiday we're gonna have for a while. Last week and then it just kind of september.
Speaker 2:Damn it, you right it just clicked that I was like shit, I gotta do this shit for a month and some change before I I'm not at this motherfucker again. So um, but yeah, it was chill. I just stay under the radar and do the. Do the usual. Uh, work working out, come to work, that's what's up and uh, just try not to let them uh phase me they gonna try push these things off me and like they gonna try.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, they're gonna try. Push these things off me and like they're gonna try.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they're gonna definitely try. But uh, working on music, you know it's it's interesting to to create because sometimes you you do have those those days where you question like, do I still got it? And then you have those when you find those pockets, like I still got it. Then there's other times you're like nigga, I ain't got shit. Am I even black? I have no rhythm in this verse. In this bar it's just coming out horrible. I feel like I was in the freshman double XL freshman class. I'll never let you hear except Ray Vaughn.
Speaker 1:Hear what was in these glasses. I will never let you hear what is recorded.
Speaker 2:I'm going to hear them.
Speaker 1:Oh you will. Is that bad? It's like Silk to Soccer and Blueface together.
Speaker 2:Damn no rhythm I'm just like damn Offbeat. It's like in my head it sounded way better than it came out. So anyway, we'll get into the shenanigans. It's going to be a meshing of two worlds. There are questions, but we're just going to let it fly.
Speaker 3:Let it fly with Soda McFly, let it fly, let it rain.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:That's my favorite movie. Long game Paulie.
Speaker 1:That made me think of Swaggy P talking about Michael Jordan. They was talking shit about Kobe and he said you guys over here talking like Michael Jordan had like a six child Remember that motherfucker won that game. It was like oh, that's fucked up, but he right.
Speaker 2:He wrong. So, since you brought it up, let's talk about Kobe. Yeah, there's been a lot of slander and it's a loser's loser talk, it is, and it just. It's wild to me because I mean, you can call us biased because we are kobe fans, but I do feel like there's a lot of honest takes on it as well from the three of us because, granted, you can be a fan or biased, but you can't deny stats and what actually happened when you watch these games and the footage and a lot of the people that are talking about them are essentially people that that if they did play against them, I want to rewrite history and they were getting their asses cooked.
Speaker 2:So what are your thoughts on the likes of uh, I mean the, the stance that all these people are suddenly taking now, and and and all the slander that's happening? They wanted to be him that's what I think.
Speaker 1:The one that threw me off was like dwayne wade saying some shit, where you're like d way, like how are you gonna say something? But I, I don't know. I feel like it's jealousy. There's some sort of jealousy to it.
Speaker 3:That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1:It's like let the man rest in peace, just let the legacy be what it is, don't try to change it.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's a bunch of bitch niggas talking shit about somebody who can't defend theyself because they're not here. And you waited. You sucked his dick while he was here.
Speaker 1:Well, there's probably been a lot of shit in their households like arguments and like, well, when you was out there, kobe was cooking you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was busting their asses and, like I pointed out in the video, some of them since AAU.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So when you look at that and you and you think of the, the entire situation, their success trajectories were completely different. You know then, like kobe was here and a lot of those guys that are talking. They maybe were considered good players. Some of them reached to a higher tier, made the top 75.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So for to me, and in comparison I mean, you guys pick specific players to go to compare to Kobe, but what does success look like in your eyes? As far as some of the guys talking compared to what Kobe did as a player like what, I think that's the bigger hate here.
Speaker 1:Is this the realization of lack of success or they just didn't, they weren't happy with their results. So, yeah, like that's the success part, like scoby probably would say, his was, he was successful, but in what he probably wanted to seek he still feels unfulfilled in those, the two that he lost. When you heard him talk about it like damn nigga, to even get through with those squads is crazy. Well, the other one they should have. They should have.
Speaker 2:The fact that they said Pau Gasol should have been the MVP, fucking D-Wade. Oh yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 1:That's what that was crazy Pau Gasol's probably like what are we? Talking about me. I played with him.
Speaker 3:So I ain't even saying that I mean to that response to D-Wade. I felt like Shaq should have got MVP yeah, right, and then you wouldn't have none that's just wild to me.
Speaker 2:Jealousy cause when I think of Kobe in the frame of mind. That's why I rock with like a Matt Barnes and Matt Barnes got hands he got hands, but he also just he's honest, so like when he talks about it he knows what it is and what it ain't, and he don't try to change history yeah and then, you got niggas like paul pierce. Well, he don't count that. That in his own mind is trying to change history to what he actually meant, to the game.
Speaker 3:Paul Pierce is doing it.
Speaker 1:He didn't mean a lot.
Speaker 3:Paul Pierce is mad because even his Boston legacy is being overwritten by younger niggas. I hate him.
Speaker 1:He's fault to be a nobody, don't, nobody know who. The truth is he? What Just?
Speaker 2:McFly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that, but we don't like Paul over here. I don't fuck with Paul, I hate Paul Pierce.
Speaker 3:I've been saying that for years.
Speaker 1:I forgot he was from LA yeah, that I don't, I tried to scrub that out of history.
Speaker 3:We disowned him.
Speaker 2:I tried to change history. That nigga's from Boston. I don't know what you talking about.
Speaker 1:He ain't from LA he's real with Mark Wahlberg and them traitor.
Speaker 2:He's at the bar. Do you think, since we always talk about the mamba mentality, what do you think it takes to have that kind of discipline and outlook on your craft like that?
Speaker 3:It takes going, going back to last last episode, it takes other worldly determination, unshakable motivation, like you. You, it's really something where you have to want it so bad that and I and I and I think to his, you know, sadly, to his demise. Is that the reason why, like when he talked about why he started taking the helicopter rides and stuff, was because he was trying to have it all, because he was just so focused on being the best basketball player, while it's time to be somewhat of a good dad? And so he. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. And when you watch so many players, adam, he say you know they, when summer hit, they take the summer off. They don't start training again till they they actually go on vacation.
Speaker 3:Now I give LeBron his credit, cause I feel like LeBron 365, he is training, he is doing his thing but, but yeah but you know, back in the Kobe days, I mean you had, you had Iverson that literally said practice, what's practice? I don't need practice like I'm yeah, I'm not going to practice. You know what I mean? Yeah, you got Shaq coming in every year 40 pounds overweight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, reeking of Krispy Kreme and that's true.
Speaker 3:He wasn't in shape until Christmas.
Speaker 2:Like he wasn't in shape until Christmas, always complaining about his big toe, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:And then when you hear the stories of Kobe saying, yeah, we're walking tomorrow at 4 or 5, whatever and whatever time he told you he's going to get there two, three hours early just to show you and then he's going to leave after you, just to show you that. What's the boy's name? I forget his name. Was it J, not J?
Speaker 2:Willis Jay Will.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that said. He said that. He said I literally put up a hundred shots, like a thousand shots, and when I left, Kobe was still practicing. And then when I saw him at the game he said I had to let you know that I'm not working Like that mindset. That's different. That's a different mindset because even mind, we're still competing, because I'm going to show you that you're, you don't want it as bad as I want it that's what's so crazy about t-max statement.
Speaker 2:Because he he shared a uh he was uh roommates with him during either aau or the, the whatever, I think the all-american something and he said that kobe was sitting in this in the room talking about I'm about to bust tim thomas's ass, I'm about to do this. Oh, they're gonna know to know. He's sitting there practicing and saying it over and over and over. He was like you know his mindset. So for you to know that that evolved into what it became in the NBA, for you to sit there and say some shit like, well, if I had Shaq, come on, bro, you're different.
Speaker 1:He would have got one One You're different One.
Speaker 2:You're different one, you're not. You know and you know from firsthand experience that you're not built like him, so why would you even make the statement like you try to? You try to try to come back, but I'm gonna flip it.
Speaker 3:I said they better think they lucky stars and stripes. They showed me that kobe wasn't 610. Yeah, yeah, because if kobe was 610, with that mentality, that work ethic, shit, I think we've been dropping 45 in the first quarter. This motherfucker was playing with giants.
Speaker 1:He said that about Iverson.
Speaker 2:He was like shit, if Iverson had anybody's height, you guys were toast, that's it, but he was 6'6", 215 pounds if that versus LeBron, who's a fucking essentially a linebacker and he's fucking cooking LeBron and we have the nerve to try to keep leaving Kobe out of the top.
Speaker 3:I remember the early stages of heat where it was buff LeBron. We got lean LeBron now, but I remember when LeBron was like you saw LeBron like God damn, he finna destroy somebody Like he knock over half the team.
Speaker 1:That's where training and all that stuff comes into play.
Speaker 3:Raw ability don't get you, but so far there's been a lot of people that's been able to jump out the arena. A lot of money ain't last.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they didn't put the work for the fundamentals and take it serious, because when you get old, all you got is old fundamentals. Because I think that's what he was looking at with Shaq. It's like look at you, man. If you just took it halfway serious, halfway serious we wouldn't hate.
Speaker 2:Like you said the interview where he talked they had the interview we won eight. Like he said the interview where he talked they had the one-on-one. He said what would have happened if you would have came in. He was like we would have like a shitload of more championships and it's like well.
Speaker 3:David Stern would have broke them niggas up. I know these new NBA fans don't know about David. David Stern, he would veto and make shit happen to make things seem competitive.
Speaker 1:After the sixth one, though yeah, you guys can't win six straight, no.
Speaker 3:This is over. You gotta go. You're not breaking Michael's record. Somebody getting fined. We gotta throw some dirt on somebody Are?
Speaker 2:you what Are you implying? That they sent that woman to Kobe's room?
Speaker 3:They probably did.
Speaker 2:Caused a little mischief, nah it?
Speaker 1:was a joke, it probably was Paul Pierce. He finally got out. He's like. You know what I'm talking about. Let's see what this fame be like. It's like Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2:I think it was even a trip, like if you guys watch the Rede team documentary on Netflix, and it came out after Kobe passed. But like I remember when they talked about the mentality and the mindset Kobe had where he had to let, he had to set the tone for them to win, and he literally said I came here cause I'm tired of seeing you lose. And then to make a statement he ran through Pau Gasol just to let them know he's my teammate, but we ain't teammates right now.
Speaker 1:Not even that. That's his brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he ran through him he didn't go.
Speaker 1:He fucks with Pau Like they go to Christmas and shit together.
Speaker 2:Like, OK, we going to talk about this at christmas. Ran right the fuck through him. I'll fuck with pal casacas, you could tell pal just was like that's just kobe, like he didn't look at it like it was beefy just like that's just how cold, because after that, after that, most friendships would have been over yeah, you ain't running from me like that, like, but yeah, that mentality is different.
Speaker 2:Um, I think even on the level of success that's measured here Kobe's work, ethic and belief in himself and the process and just taking it serious he took it more serious than everyone else in the NBA. I feel like it should be commended and we shouldn't have people taking opportunities to try to change history or slander his name, since he's not even here to defend himself and none of y'all were doing this when he was alive.
Speaker 3:So it's it's crazy to me to think I think he took everything he learned from Mike and all the advice Mike gave him. He took it to the TIF power because you know they said Mike was doing the same thing. Mike will play against all these people in the summertime and learn your moves and all that stuff. I think Kobe took that to the 10th. If he saw you as any kind of threat or any type of potential in you, he would try to get a leg. He would do, he did whatever it took to get the leg up.
Speaker 1:Whatever it took. Yeah, yeah, a little cycle waste.
Speaker 3:That's a little too obsessive Obsess. I remember what was that I think that was 01, 01 or 02, they had just won the title and like he literally took four days off and then he was in. He was in French training. Yeah, yeah, he said okay, he was in French training. Yeah, he said okay. The season's over Gotta get ready for next year.
Speaker 2:So we transitioned that into what we called. We touched on this and we're not gonna get too engulfed in it, but the aftermath of what was Drake versus the boogeyman kendrick lamar um, it's been a over a year and I noticed drake has not let this shit go drake says round two has it started, yet he's for him, it has oh someone has
Speaker 2:to respond when we we talk about Kobe, I think it's important to note in the music I feel like Kendrick has that same outlook and mindset about his craft. And it's an important estate because when you look at how everything played out and how calculated he was and the way he literally destroyed someone's confidence right to the point that they changed the way they move, they stress the fuck out, they lost their hair, it's important to say, like that level of success and the mentality and outlook how would you guys say it made I don't know kind of integrated into your own personal lives, to how you should approach your passions or crafts excuse me, I think the biggest thing I've learned from the whole Kendrick shit is that execute the plan, have the plan be thoroughly planned out and written down and execute.
Speaker 3:I felt like everything he studied and he knew exactly who he was going against and he he had to shit. He had that shit ready.
Speaker 2:He had, he had lined up I mean, yeah, he had to have done a lot of research on drake before even saying let's get this pop.
Speaker 3:Like you could tell, somebody came prepared and ready he said I'm war ready if, if I'm already, if, if you want to see me, uh bleed, or something like that, he said. I said I believe it, because the thing about being war ready is that you have to prepare in times of peace and have every possible angle.
Speaker 2:It's like how bat Batman was with the Justice League. He said for each one of you, I have a failsafe, just in case shit goes south. I can take you out. I was like nigga, we on the same side. It could change tomorrow.
Speaker 3:We on the same side today. Today we're on the same side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd be more like why did?
Speaker 2:you tell? Me he was that confident like nigga, just so you know that's funny. He did the kindred the same thing you drink he told him how it was gonna play out before it played out, and it's yeah, that's, that's true that's like that's a good, that's a good comparison, because it's like batman would say I pay attention to everything.
Speaker 3:I may not speak on it, but I see everything.
Speaker 2:I heard that shit you said last week. But the fact that Kendrick said hey, this is how it's going to play out. Before we even get there, I'm going to let you know exactly how this is going to play out. And it's going to play out that way. That's some.
Speaker 3:I think Jedi mind shit, I think, uh, jedi mind shit.
Speaker 1:I look at more of the uh the post than the beef, because if you listen to how a lot of people were talking about it, they were saying, well, he's going to have to carry this and do this and it's like I think at the beginning is the calculation part. He knew that. He's like yeah, I know that. So like there's still a lot of shit coming out of that, I don't think it's going to be the same Kendrick we had, where it's like five, six years of waiting on music or waiting on something or waiting on anything. It's like all right, I'm going to take this nigga out Now. It's my show Go time. So it's about to be some shit.
Speaker 3:Where you're like I don't think he's going to change. He's already got a movie, yeah.
Speaker 1:Come on, nigga, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2:The GNX album. Listen to the Going on tour.
Speaker 1:Look at who he's on features with right now. Is it Playboi Carti? Is that who he's with? Nigga, that song's garbage, both of Maybe three. Is it three? Yeah, they're not good, but that's the game.
Speaker 2:I don't think he picks playboy card, he's nice, I just yeah, it's. Definitely he knew it was go time and definitely he shifted, like what was so calculated about kendrick and that is he even did to like to both your points. He changed what you expected of him in that moment. So even even if you were like, oh well, kendrick's just not, kendrick was like, oh, you thought I was this, now I'm coming with this, this, this, this, this, this, just cause you thought it was going to go this way. So, like you, it had to be calculated, it had to be very strategic in every sense. Like you, thought it was this way, I have to go this way, just because you thought it was going to be that way.
Speaker 1:Like I'm so curious to see what him and the creator of South Park are coming up with. Like I want to know what that is. I have no idea. It's rapid fire. Like that's like brilliant. Just to hey, put this out, don't say shit about it, just say, hey, these two niggas working together, and then just disappear on it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I would love a Black Hippie project.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's ever happened. I think you might get another song, but a project. I don't think it's. It's because it feels like they're in two different.
Speaker 1:They got to lock in to do that.
Speaker 2:Because Abso's still on a thing of trying to prove that. Ab got bars though he does have bars, but he's still trying to prove. He's that guy. He's still kind of stuck in a a box of I need to prove and it's like at this point, what do you have to prove when you've? And then J-Rock.
Speaker 3:Carson's finding the shadow of.
Speaker 2:Carson, I don't think he thinks he's broken out yeah, like I think he's still stuck in this weird thing. Like you know, you're that guy right and like Kendrick kind of leaving TDE kind of opened it up for you to be that dude and he's still kind of stuck in this. I mean, he even tried to commit suicide, so it's like he's still stuck in his internal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we see him. You have to still be like that's Abso.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you did it, you got this. It's the same thing with schoolboy q, where schoolboy q had so much success, but you would still think that schoolboy q doesn't realize that the success has put him in a different light, like what he's perceived as, and his mind is like I'm just schoolboy q, niggas like, but your schoolboy, you can see it how, even when you watch him do, uh, you're like man like. In his mind, I'm just a nigga being a nigga. It's like no, but you're schoolboy Q.
Speaker 3:Hey, watch that nigga.
Speaker 2:Crip Walk the King Hunter, that shit, yeah like it's different, but you can realize that they are who they are. But I think that's where they differentiate Kendrick's in a whole different state of mind, where he's trying to like even talking to the hard point yeah, he's like I'm trying to do this, this, this, I'm trying to be the, the executive slash, this slash that.
Speaker 2:That's why, like, even when you see how it played out with gnx and how he was putting uh, smaller people on and um, uh, doing this, the scissor tour, um, everything's from a boss move standpoint. And I think on tde he outgrew what it was like, he appreciated it, but went here and they're still kind of going.
Speaker 3:Well, we don't niggas though, it's like, but you kind of I feel like that happens with every group though you have one guy that's like, hey, we can't, we can't just be this all for the rest of the day, like TDE, there's something going on, something in the water.
Speaker 1:First of all, for all of those fools to just hit like they do, but then, when you think about it, a lot of them don't. It's weird that they don't have that belief in them, like if SZA was just saying that on the tour. It's like well, I didn't think nobody was coming to see me, like SZA, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2:Like me, like scissor, shut the fuck up. Like what it's? Yeah, it's, they're definitely talented. It's just a weird because I, yeah, you notice that with most of their their artists is they don't I don't know, don't you seem?
Speaker 1:though she's the only one. I'm better than all of you bitches.
Speaker 2:But it does seem weird that abso at this point should be on some. I'm listening to Ab today Like, hey, kendrick, nigga, I'm right here with you Because even Kendrick can acknowledge how dope he is. But it don't seem like Ab thinks of himself in that, other than when he's talking about other rappers that he knows he can body as far as the success, mentality, outlook. It's like he's stuck in his I gotta prove myself, but you're nicer than all these niggas are terrified of you. You should be the second coming of the boogeyman, as opposed to how he views himself.
Speaker 3:I don't want no smoke without him.
Speaker 2:I mean, I would 99.9% of the rappers in the entire league, and probably even including Kendrick, don't want smoke with that and like who said that shit? Was it DJ Head? He was like nigga Abso would diss you and you'll have to sit there and break it down. And be like damn nigga. He dissed me with that. But yeah, I think the mentality is important and I feel like that success, uh, that the level of success is it's, it's levels to it and kendrick and kobe are all cut from that same cloth that there's levels to it that laser focus yeah, where it's like this is you different?
Speaker 2:different and like people acknowledge it. That's what I think people are afraid of when they acknowledge the difference yeah, we see kendrick in the in the park doing fucking burpees.
Speaker 1:You're like why are you doing that? Well, I got a tour. I got a tour coming up and I'm gonna be.
Speaker 2:Or they say runs like what five or six miles you like daily, just just cuz, and you ask somebody else I've been like I ain't running far I could do a nine hour set if I need to like Like the pop out. That nigga did a two hour set with no water, no breaths, no rest. No, let me somebody take over for a little bit.
Speaker 3:We had a bunch of hey, it's my nigga.
Speaker 1:Well, that's just forgetting shit.
Speaker 2:I mean, the songs were only like a week or so or two weeks fresh. I'll fuck with it. Coming from artists trust me.
Speaker 3:I'm art coming from artists.
Speaker 2:Watch that shit right now trust me, coming from artists, that is hard to memorize some shit in less than two weeks.
Speaker 2:That is some hard shit the cold part about it is that he didn't have to write them words because the crowd knew yeah oh, they knew it six times the crowd knew I just thought it was interesting how, each time it was different, they would add like pyrotechnics to this when he did it this time, I was like that's pretty dope, and then the camera would switch Wah, wah, wah, wah. He's like this is different, so it's very Mapped out.
Speaker 3:Ain't nothing been the same since I Now Tucked this in, just wrapped it back in his pajama clothes.
Speaker 2:There's two, there's, there's this other side, the flip side of this fall for grace Drake oh, I thought you meant Paul George, oh.
Speaker 2:I've always thought he was trash.
Speaker 2:Anyway, when you look at Drake's, because I feel like when we talk big three, when we talk anything that has to do with Drake, j Cole or Kendrick, they're always brought in the same breath.
Speaker 2:But it's because the level of success and the time they take to make successful things tends to be equal. But in that battle you saw the difference between somebody who's about that and somebody who may have been crafted or created to be that way. So to have that kind of success or that level of success based on someone saying, no, I'm taking the time to master my craft, I'm doing this, I'm making sure I'm doing, I'm going above and beyond to be the best of what I can be, and then somebody saying you know what, if I pay the the right person, if I get in the right room, then I can get to that success. If I'm constantly on everyone's mind or actually being seen all the fucking time, that's what they contribute to success. If I never take a time off, then you never forget about me yeah, contractually, I don't believe he could take that off but even then, I think he learned that from wayne.
Speaker 2:That's, you know, wayne was putting out a lot of shit and it's yeah, wayne was dropping uh mixtapes, albums at least a mixtape a year, yeah so I feel like it's kind of like quantity over quality was kind of like the the that's the chris brown method I don't want to say I think because he was still banging them over the head with what he's putting out.
Speaker 1:I think uh, it's probably more like uh. What's a good comparison? We're using Kobe Kobe compared to uh uh, who has a good amount of rings. That was just on the squad, robert Nah.
Speaker 3:I will, I'll do like a Paul Pierce.
Speaker 1:I, I will. I'll do like a Paul Pierce. I'll do like a Paul Pierce, because Paul Pierce was like the guy there.
Speaker 3:Paul Pierce has one ring.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, we'll take the one ring, and so they built the team for him to win, right?
Speaker 1:so you could say you could substitute him and put LeBron in that they built the team for him to win. They built the team for Garnett to win okay so for them to win Garnett, kobe and Shaq they were like oh, y'all niggas are going to win, we just have to put the pieces here. Yeah, it's a little different. You get what I mean, so yeah. So Drake was more like the yeah, nigga, we'll make sure you win. Yeah, kendrick was like nah, nigga, I'm gonna win. How much do you want to win?
Speaker 1:Is the question yeah, because when I look at, Because Drake he's talented, but it's like he had everything handed to him Because as artists.
Speaker 2:What you would see him do when I was I was active was how the fuck are you coming up with so much music and it's like at a high rate, not saying it was the best, but like the quality. But then you find out, yeah, he's, he's taking reference tracks from Quentin Miller. He's doing that Like you're like.
Speaker 3:Oh, so there's there's a whole team at play. He's taking niggas bars, word for word. Yeah, he's still. It's a whole team at play.
Speaker 2:Some shit and it's even wild. Now when you hear about people try to defend it, they'll be like, well, yeah, he might've did the reference, but Drake did it better. It's like it's two different things.
Speaker 1:I'm okay with it if it wasn't to go into a GOAT conversation. It was just making music cool, whatever, I don't give a shit. But when you're going into like the greatest of all time, you're like, well, then you got to separate it. Like, what are we talking about? Are we talking about the greatest at making hits? Okay, cool, fuck, it have it. But are you talking about, like artist? Then you have to have a real conversation like are you the artist or did you pay for this? Like it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1:Like only you like being famous yeah, it's the fame part, it's not the craft and that that's too different.
Speaker 2:As I said, the flip side of the coin is one was created almost by, with the team to be this level of success, where kendrick was like, like you said, I'm gonna build it and I'm gonna get there, going to build it and I'm going to get there, but I'm going to put the time in to get there the right way, with the right knowing that it's on me to do it. So, like I guess it goes to that quote on on uh, all the stars, I'm a, I'm a, I want the credit. If I'm winning or I'm losing, I'm a mama. That's the realest shit. Like it, it does feel like nigga. I'm going to create it rather you.
Speaker 3:It's like when you said that, it just made me think about what Mase said about Kobe. Yeah, kobe went up with his team. He went down with his team.
Speaker 2:But he was there he was there.
Speaker 3:That's his team.
Speaker 2:It didn't change to do this.
Speaker 1:no, he's like fuck it if this, if this is what I'm winning, this I'm gonna win and then when people say he was gonna leave, he wasn't leaving to go to like a much he was one of the clippers or the bulls yeah, it wasn't like a greater situation.
Speaker 1:He was like I'm gonna go build it and beat these niggas over here now, bang them over the head. But people don't have that, they don't believe that they have to have. It's like t-mac said with that I didn't have the chance. It's like shut the fuck up you did yeah, like you didn't go you didn't go to the bucks, nigga like. And even if you went to the well, no, because kobe knew that too.
Speaker 3:He was like I am not going to charlotte, nigga and I mean and if you, if you want to play devil's advocate, shack didn't get it done until he got with Kobe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they sent him there for that they knew that when they were like hey, put these two together.
Speaker 3:Him and Penny had two shots back to back.
Speaker 1:Who did that? They lost. Who was it? Wasn't it Jerry West?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Jerry West. Jerry West is brilliant with basketball and he said get them two little niggas together. I want this kid.
Speaker 3:He saw a vision before everybody else did, because Dale Harris et cetera didn't look at Kobe, like Jerry West, is the brainchild of the Golden State Warriors too.
Speaker 1:He's brilliant. He got Paul Gasol for Kwame Brown. Come on, yeah.
Speaker 3:That motherfucker Kwame Brown, god damn, yeah, yeah, I went through one of my.
Speaker 1:Facebook.
Speaker 3:It was about a month ago, god damn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah I saw I went through one of my Facebook. Uh, it was like a year, about a month ago. I went through one of my Facebook stories and I was like man, I haven't watched the game forever and I said I literally the post was. I finally decided to turn the Laker game on, turn the, turn the game on. I watched, um, I watched what's his fucking name? What was it? It was other like power forward. I watched this nigga take a three and cut the TV off like the first.
Speaker 2:I turned, it wasn't.
Speaker 3:Randall. It was before Randall. It was a veteran. I forgot his nigga name, but I said yeah, I said I remember it was a time, like you know how many trash ass teams Kobe was on like trash trash. What ass teams. Colby was on and he was celebrating. What game Trash.
Speaker 2:Game winners and he looking like.
Speaker 3:Trash.
Speaker 1:What team was? Was he Italian or something? Marcellus Mar? I can't remember that motherfucker's name, I just remember they were running out of time and he's the one who tried to shoot the ball behind his back Because he ran out of time. And he's like ugh. One who tried to shoot the ball behind his back Because he ran out of time, and he's like ugh, he tried to shoot a three Like. Looking at the other rim, you're like nigga. What is this?
Speaker 2:Oh shit. We can definitely say that in levels of success there are levels to success, and when you see greatness like that, oh, it was Carlos Buzer anyway, when you say that was a success, you understand that there that Kobe and Kendrick and that taking the time to create and believe and have a passion in your craft and take the shit serious breeds a whole different type of beast.
Speaker 3:No shortcuts and that's why it pissed me off. When I got that clip of shaq talking to his son about basketball he knows we'll take a lot of sacrifice, you're gonna miss. I said, nigga, what did you sacrifice?
Speaker 1:I just feel like a month of crispy cream if, if you take the if people like I, just like with the shortcuts should I get mad at the shortcuts that people don't.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying when he got he got serious. He was like I guess I want to eat that right now yeah, he didn't take shortcuts though he just didn't
Speaker 3:care no.
Speaker 2:He didn't care until around Christmas-ish.
Speaker 3:But when that motherfucker was in shape.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a strong one.
Speaker 1:But at the end of the day, what you going to say to him? Nothing Nigga work out like no Fair enough.
Speaker 2:Well, Kobe would throw hands with him.
Speaker 1:He did it once. I feel like he was like I gotta do this because I ain't no bitch. I don't want to do this twice.
Speaker 2:I think he would have did it again if he had to. I just feel like 99.9% of the rest of the league would have been like nigga, I ain't doing that shit.
Speaker 1:That's Jack's team.
Speaker 2:TMAC included. He would have caved his chest in. You see how skinny TMAC was.
Speaker 1:Like what TMAC has died, like what he got punched.
Speaker 2:I said 24 hours within trading T-Mac to the Lakers. We are now going to the funeral team, right.
Speaker 1:Like I think that's what a lot of the players are like. Some of these guys who are talking are saying he wouldn't get this if he didn't die and that's insane to me. Like I do believe he would have got the same praise. If you look at that farewell tour. No one's getting that. No one's getting that.
Speaker 3:They're going to try to do something like that for LeBron.
Speaker 1:It's not going to be the same. It's not. It's not even going to be close.
Speaker 3:They're going to try.
Speaker 1:It'll be a sight to see because you're like damn nigga, that is a long time they're going to drop.
Speaker 2:So you guys played sports yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You played sports you wrestled. I played spades, I thought you wrestled.
Speaker 3:And played spades.
Speaker 2:That's a sport In your sports. Do you remember your first wins?
Speaker 1:My first wins, nah the first win, like that. Do you remember how you felt?
Speaker 3:when you won, I didn't, it was dope, that was dope, I remember. Yeah, I won.
Speaker 2:Yay, my first home run, how'd that feel. That was dope, that was real cool. Fuck you that was real cool, was it? You just?
Speaker 3:tripped Curry Kevin.
Speaker 2:So, when you hit the home run, what was the thought that went through your mind when you knew it was going to?
Speaker 1:go over the wall. I finally got one hell yeah that's what's up.
Speaker 2:Clink, yes, but did you know instantly when it came off the bat or as it was traveling?
Speaker 3:oh no, that was gone so I was in little league I must have been about 11, 12 and I was like little league man. I must have been about 11, 12 and I, I was like man.
Speaker 3:I got it, I hit, I was like oh, this is gone so I hit it right and I'm looking at it and I'm like that's a home run, that's out the park for sure, and I'm standing there watching. I ain't, I ain't moved, nigga, I'm still at the plate. Needless to say, niggas and slayers was not a home run. It landed right next to the fence, oh shit and uh, it ended up being a single. So you learned that lesson that day. They was like why are?
Speaker 3:you not running. I was like niggas out, we good don't worry don't worry about it. We good it was. It was not out, it was, it was a, it was a very long single that's a little bit yelled at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did.
Speaker 3:I did some extra running. Next practice Like whose kid is this hey?
Speaker 2:See, you guys have a different experience than I did in baseball. In baseball for me, I played in Little League and we played at Patterson Park and I remember it was a Saturday, we played and I got struck out at the plate and my dumb ass was feeling sorry for myself. So I just stood at the plate like I didn't move. So the teammate was trying to slide in because something happened. I don't know if the I got swung in and, like the the catcher, they thought his gloves. So my teammate was trying to run it from from home and I'm over here feeling sorry for myself. I blocked his path to the fucking plate and they were cussing me the fuck out and I remember just thinking yeah, I don't think baseball is my thing, it's for me.
Speaker 2:Like, but my first win in basketball was I remember the feeling I had my first win was like I didn't do shit, was like I didn't do shit, like I didn't do enough because I felt like I should be more. I should have had more individual stats for the win, so like it felt good that we won, but it always made me feel like I need to do more, like I want to be the reason, like that main reason, why we win, and I didn't honestly get that to. Like high school, there was one game I grabbed like 21 rebounds.
Speaker 1:That's a lot. And I was hyped, you was out there grabbing rebounds. What the fuck the hell are you playing?
Speaker 2:I was a power forward but I was smaller than everybody else. But I was quicker than the guys I was playing against, so they might have been taller than me, but I could jump up quicker and grab the rebound and I could jump.
Speaker 2:So I remember it was against rubid and I grabbed a lot of fucking rebound. I think. When I took away from that I was like man, like like they only had like four points but I had a shitload of rebounds. But it was like I a a integral part to that you know what. I'm saying Like you're like, damn, you can't take away his 21 rebounds.
Speaker 1:They're like that's a lot of points in return.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I kept grad, like I remember just going down like and the thing is just those wins, like you take pride in that shit because you know the work you put in to get to that point. You know what I'm saying. So, like, when you, when you see the, the return on that, on that, on that hard work and and in the form of success or win, like I'm talking about your loser ass teams but they were oh yeah, we didn't, we didn't go anywhere they were real fun.
Speaker 1:It was fun. That's not what it's supposed to be, but the winning is supposed to be fun. We was just having fun. Those coaches just didn't know what to do.
Speaker 2:I think the ultimate one I got from all of it was the weight loss. When I was in high school, people didn't recognize me. When I came, when I played basketball for two years and I came back to North, they were like man. I remember one dude was like man, what you doing meth or something? I was like what?
Speaker 1:Damn, didn't give me no credit.
Speaker 3:I just remember that summer between eighth and ninth grade when you went to football practice all summer. I came back in freshman year I was like damn you lost. Yeah nigga. I've been running in the heat.
Speaker 2:I used to see them all the time A lot. I said I couldn't do football.
Speaker 1:This nigga said meth and I was like in high school and then I remember trying out for baseball. And there's one nigga, he was Mexican, he was. He came, he was SA'd out, he had the shorts, the big ass, ben davis and the cortez's to try out for baseball. I was like this nigga ain't ready, but like his name was, an angel by chance?
Speaker 2:I don't remember his name, I just that, because that that's what it was a sa dude that asked me that and he wore cortez's and he was a big dude that lost a good amount of weight and I was like the funny is, the first thing he asked me was it meth? And I'm like, nigga, yeah, why was it mess for you? Like was it mess for him? And he was like, oh man, we buddies like no no, we're.
Speaker 1:No, he was a little dude but he was like tired as fuck on like one. I was like why are you so tired? He's like I smoked some glass last night, fool, and I was like we are in 10th grade, yeah, like that's. He came to try out after smoking meth. That's wild, that is yeah. Now that I think back, I'm like that is a child, yeah.
Speaker 3:He was. If I could go back, I probably would. I probably would have played baseball.
Speaker 2:I like baseball. I really like baseball. I would have took it serious.
Speaker 3:Yeah as serious If I'm saying I would've took a serious Cause I did not, I took, I took a, I had a rotation. Serious, I was just doing shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I should've. I probably could've made some money. That's how much, uh, I believe in myself.
Speaker 2:That's nuts I remember I went and played basketball for a different school and came back to North and I, I, I was in shape, shape and I bust my ass. But something happened with the coach and I just said you know what? I'm just going to enjoy my senior year and I came back in shape and I would hoop at lunch all the time and there was some three-on-three competition they had going on in North and fucking Athens' dad came out to watch me play oh yeah and then he was like you know, if some of y'all would come try out for the team, you'd be on the team.
Speaker 2:I was like nigga, I was on your teams and he used to shit on us when we were like with the freshmen and whatever so like. So the fact that I came back, my senior and he had like amnesia, I was like but I tried for the team and it wasn't interesting. But now that they're talking about hey, that one dude at the, at the courts, he came out and said that shit.
Speaker 1:I said that's good he should have came just said that directly like hey, you should it was.
Speaker 2:It was a clear like message, but like he didn't want to say it directly, but he wanted to hear me, hear him say it. Yeah, it's like if some of y'all would try out for the team. Like I said, I ain't never seen him out at those courts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unless he was about to spin you.
Speaker 2:So when that happened I said shit. But yeah, basketball is. I know if I would have took it serious, like like mamba level serious, I would have went far.
Speaker 3:You take anything mama level serious, you're going to be a success.
Speaker 2:But I know I have the skill level.
Speaker 1:It's just, you can sell dope at that level Shit you want to start tomorrow you might be Jay-Z.
Speaker 2:That's well played, but yeah, can you describe a moment that you almost gave up and what made you keep going? Like me personally. We're talking about like sports, oh sports, because we're talking about sports sports, on sports, because we're talking about sports.
Speaker 3:I thought I fucked my nip. I never wrestled again.
Speaker 2:Was it like they recommended it or you just?
Speaker 3:told yourself. I just never went back. I don't know if I gave up on myself. Then I just I thought I fucked up on myself. Then I just I thought I transitioned to um track and field after that and I did track the rest of the time.
Speaker 2:So what event.
Speaker 3:I was uh field. Should I put it this oh okay, yeah, um, yeah, but no, I mean, I don't know, I can't say I gave up. I just kind of like it was an environment where I felt like I wasn't really encouraged type thing, because again, a lot of things I was doing like I was doing shit just so I wouldn't have to be home. So it was just like, as long as I ain't home, I'm cool and I got a job. That's the money in my pocket. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If I can go back, I'd take this shit serious. I don't really feel like I took anything serious outside of shit. I didn't even really take my grades serious. Shit always kind of came easy to me. I did bare minimum to get. As long as I had a B or a house. No, I didn't care.
Speaker 2:I get that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Just enough. So they wouldn't yell at me when I when the report card came on.
Speaker 1:Seas means you see some shit for the summer. I think for me was graduating out of high school with baseball. I think for me I was graduating out of high school with baseball because I was like I ain't playing hardly on the team, I'm just on the team. They're like I'm not dope, but I know I'm dope.
Speaker 1:I think that's some softball game, but I think that was. I had the choice of either just going to school and not, you know, or at least trying. So I chose to put in the work for the summer and try out at least. So I didn't quit.
Speaker 3:What'd you? What'd you join a?
Speaker 1:I even uh, join a 40 number team, a team like baseball. Yeah, I don't know if I want to play baseball or some of these things. They be trying to do too much. I'm like yo dog, I just want to come out here and just move my body.
Speaker 3:No, but you can find a team like that. It's dope. I mean, there's some that don't really play, they just drink, it's a reason to drink.
Speaker 1:Nah, I don't want to do that, but I've seen those ones where they have like, where I was like, yeah, let me go Wood Bat League. Oh, these motherfuckers in college, like I'm just trying to go embarrass myself.
Speaker 2:I don't know why. It popped in my head. You end up going to the team and thinking it's cool and then you end up doing a dance number to go viral. You be like nigga, I came to play what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, there's this new baseball.
Speaker 2:We do tricks and shit.
Speaker 1:Can I?
Speaker 2:see that TikTok shit, I'm like what the fuck Are they dancing?
Speaker 3:But no, I did say this when I think about it, if I would go back I would start. I could have wrestled in middle school, because I actually did enjoy wrestling and I felt like, because I was logical, like I was 5'9", right, 5'10 on a good day. My favorite basketball player is 6'6" and they say he's small. I said, nick, so I can't play basketball. I'm not going to waste my goddamn time.
Speaker 2:I wasn't fast enough.
Speaker 3:Look at the comparisons.
Speaker 2:Muggsy Bogues.
Speaker 3:I wasn't fast enough. Spud Webb, I fast enough, spud Webb, I wasn't fast enough. So yeah, that's Clayton Clark. So I knew, I knew, is she 5'9"?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I was just like she might be 5'11", so that's why I always rock with.
Speaker 3:if y'all know who I mean. Kevin probably know who Dwight Feeney, the defensive tackle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was 5'9". Oh yeah, definitely he was a superstar, right?
Speaker 3:So I was like. So, logically, I was like man. I'm not familiar, I like basketball, but I was like man.
Speaker 2:I know I ain't going you quit off.
Speaker 3:Nah, nate Robinson, nah. But then I didn't think there was no money in wrestling Webster, but to get to the Olympics and then tailor it back to the wrestling.
Speaker 1:Wrestling Did you say. Who'd you say?
Speaker 3:Gary Coleman, I thought that's what you said. I was like he don't play basketball.
Speaker 2:Now I'm just talking about successful short people. I'm like, hey, I don't have much to pull from there. Pause, ha ha.
Speaker 1:You gotta yeah. Yeah, I'm not damn it, I can't even say what the fuck I want to say. I'm gonna say I'm not touching that, but that's an inappropriate thing to say after you guys. Hold a little. You have any um, what would you any any moments?
Speaker 2:I forgot what I asked you felt like you were going to quit, give up. Oh, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3:Not quit give up.
Speaker 2:That's right. That's right. That's right, that's right. Sports-wise sophomore year because freshman year. No, was it freshman? Yeah, freshman year. I went out to play basketball and I um no, I was playing at lunch, god damn it. I was playing at lunch, I pulled, I tore my uh, meniscus, and basketball tryouts was the following week and I still went out and tried out and the fucked up thing was that that year the tryouts were out on the blacktop, damn. So not only was I fucked up because of my knee, but I'm out here trying to play get on the team with a torn meniscus, because I'm trying and I'm hobbling up and down the floor.
Speaker 3:But you wouldn't have gotten to play in time because you were hurt.
Speaker 2:I was trying to make the team so I literally didn't say I was injured, I just kept. But you could tell it was clearly evident. But I remember I ended up falling and bracing myself and I scraped my hands up.
Speaker 2:So I remember the coach going like man, I appreciate the effort. He's like it's clear you're injured, but I appreciate the effort that you're putting in, but unfortunately this year. Yeah, so I came back my sophomore year Because I wanted to give up. But I came back my sophomore year and tried out and I was one of the best dudes in the tryout and politics played a part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, buddy, old politics of the best dudes in the tryout and politics played a part, and buddy old politics coach came to me afterwards and he was like, because everybody was like I don't know how you didn't make the team. Like you were better than all of us out there. So he goes yeah, man, um, you know, like you know the guys that made the team, they were in the summer league before like the summer uh. So like that's the reason why you got picked over, that you know. But yeah, like you, you were really good man. Like I want you to just come back out next year. I said no, no, but what's funny is I guess it got enough traction and people was like dude, you denied one of the better guys in the tryouts, so they put me on the team but I couldn't play. That was bartiz, that's what's the point?
Speaker 2:so it was like you're on the team but you don't play yet until you get acclimated to the how they play. So I was on the team and I only played against poly, because the the rule trucks rule uh, coach, trucks rule was everybody gets a piece of poly. That was the rule. So, um, but I remember at that time it hit me and I wanted to give up, but I chose to go to a different school completely and have an honest unbiased chance at playing.
Speaker 2:So every day I forget this. That's why I fuck with my dad so heavy. He would take me with him to Rubidoux because he would meet up with his friend Baron in Rubidoux and they would eat breakfast every morning. So I would get up at 6 am every morning, go with him to the diner in Rubidoux, we would eat and he would drop me off at North when he went to work and I would be up at North from 7 or 8 am all the way until 5 pm. And that was what my summer was.
Speaker 2:So I would run into the football players and I would see them every day and what I would do was run a mile, because I couldn't run a mile before. So I would start, you know, run a sprint walk, sprint walk, and then it turned into I could do a full lap. Then the full lap turned into two sprint walk and then it turned into I can do a full lap, then the full lap turned into two laps, and then you get to four and I just remember being super focused and my dad was like so what school do you want to go to? Like he told me he's like you can go to any school you want to go to. What school do you want to go to? I went to ramona and I I made the team and that's when I got the 21 rebounds and I just completely changed my body and I remember just busting my ass the whole year and they changed and it pissed me off because I said it feels like timing. Some scandal was going on with the coaches so they ended up firing the entire coaching staff. So all that work that I put in was about to be tucking under by a whole new coaching staff and when that guy came in he couldn't handle the players so he had just fucking buckled after fucking doing hell week and all that shit during the summertime.
Speaker 2:So that's when I quit Because I realized at that point, if this coach isn't going to be serious, why am I going to put my effort forward? If I know the coach isn't going to be serious about this, why am I going to put my effort? But that was me quitting only because I knew at this point my effort was going to be for nothing, because if I tried and sure enough that team fucking went like oh and whatever, they didn't make it anywhere, the fucking team was just trash. But I knew it was going to be that when I saw it. But I I just remember putting a lot of fucking work, but yeah, I didn't necessarily, I didn't give up on myself, I just knew what a dead horse was. So I just went and enjoyed my senior year and I got, you know, groped by a lot of women and asked if I did meth that's assault.
Speaker 2:It was assault, press charges.
Speaker 3:Press charges. They want equality. They can get a go-to on two yeah.
Speaker 1:Not from high school. Yeah, no, because then that's a bad precedence.
Speaker 2:All right, rapid fire. Success in one word Go Pussy. Okay, you.
Speaker 1:Ooh, that's a good one. That's what I said.
Speaker 2:What? The pussy or the success question.
Speaker 1:The question Both actually.
Speaker 3:Nigga, do you understand what rapid fire is?
Speaker 1:I know, I know you saw me, I've been spoken.
Speaker 2:I want to say some Charlie Sheen shit, so fuck it winning winning, I'm gonna say see growth, damn it, he beat me alright book that helps you shape your mindset go grace eventually as a man think of uh, dale carnegie's, uh the way to influence people and uh when, or some friendships.
Speaker 3:It's been so long that's a goddamn book to manipulate people. I read that shit Okay.
Speaker 2:Stick with the shit. Most underrated trait for success Go Determination.
Speaker 1:Sticktuitiveness what?
Speaker 2:I'm going to say Discipline Determination.
Speaker 1:Stictuitiveness. So what I'm?
Speaker 3:going to say discipline, determination, stictuitiveness.
Speaker 2:That's discipline, nigga, just discipline.
Speaker 1:I guess we said the same thing three times Quote you live by.
Speaker 3:Fuck them, kids.
Speaker 2:You.
Speaker 1:It is the heroes and cowards uh coach you, love, I'll coach you.
Speaker 3:Why I?
Speaker 2:just because I'm a nasty motherfucker, claude um, you know what you need to do. Do it. What's your uh success anthem? A song that motivates you.
Speaker 3:Right now, it's that part.
Speaker 2:That part, schoolboy, and Kanye that part, that part.
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't know the name of the song.
Speaker 2:It's Kodak. Black Mine is Hustler's Ambition 50 Cent. With that being said, this has been episode 206 of the Heavyweight Podcast. Yay, yay, this has been a freestyle thing, so we're meshing up things, trying something different. That's why we're doing this. Des will be back the next episode, don't worry. Shout out to Des. Yeah, we Thank you. Like, subscribe, share, comment. All that shit. All that shit. We love you Till next time. Peace, peace.
Speaker 1:Now we can be superstars. Oh, I'm sweating. That's a wrap y'all. That's how she rap, so make sure you click like subscribe. Tune in we on the Austrian platform. So until next time we'll highlight you.
