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Talk Yo Shit "Dirty Birdy"
Dirty Birdy walks in and the whole vibe shifts.
This episode is a full-course meal of lyricism, life wisdom, and straight-up legacy. From beat machines at dawn to international record deals, Dirty Birdie tells the truth behind the bars—and the family-first mindset that guided his career decisions.
Fatherhood. Music industry war stories. Creative fire that never went out.
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you feel me, yeah, because all the dirty birdie shit is is just me is a, a five-year-old black kid that didn't didn't get no therapy for the trauma and shit. You feel me, yeah, nigga, just trauma bonding with the music and shit. You know what I mean? It's just spitting shit that I probably should have talked to somebody about but didn't know how to manage that shit. That resonates for me, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm big bloomin'. I'm heavy structure. I'm hung low. If I pull my shit out, this whole room get dark. I'ma talk my shit. Fat finger, let me talk my shit. Damn right, I'm gonna talk my shit. Ie, in this bitch love never resting on my nose the definition of a chord, when they stop questioning your morals for me specifically, this is a very, very, very dope talk your shit.
Speaker 1:This is like like a highlight for me, because this man to the left of me is a legend and when you think of somebody that can spit these fucking syllables and the lyrics that he comes up with and I remember being in the DIY cypher and there's a video on YouTube, if you see it, I'm staring at him rap and it's in disbelief, like, and every dude in the room is looking at him in disbelief, like how the fuck is he coming up with this shit? Like, and I can say wholeheartedly with every rapper that I know, we all look at you with respect, we all look at you and uh, and just think, just think, damn, that's what we want to be like, um, and that can go from it to any level of this shit like, you are a legend and um, every time I get the opportunity to hear you spit, I'm just like this is fucking crazy. Even last night, when I was uh coming up with the, the questions, I was like dirty but have to be here in person. This is crazy. Ladies and gentlemen, give a wholehearted welcome to a legend, not just the IE legend, but a legend period we give to y'all Dirty Bertie.
Speaker 1:Yay, thank you for that man. It comes from the bottom of my heart. You're making a cry up here. I mean it from the bottom of my heart.
Speaker 2:You look like an old nigga.
Speaker 1:cry up here, homie I mean it from the bottom of my heart. Thank you, bro. If you know what you mean to us, bro, you're dope. Thank you, man. I appreciate the hell out of that. So how are you doing this morning, man? I'm doing better than some, worse than a few, but blessed overall. I feel that. I feel that. I feel that so I guess we'll get into the shenanigans of shenanigans.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, when did you first know that you wanted to rap? When did I first know I wanted to rap? So I used to get in trouble a lot, so I'd be on punishment a lot when I was a little nigga and I always was a big music guy, always, always, always. So I didn't really get toys for birthdays and christmases. I got albums and tapes and so I've been like, yeah, like since like three, four years old, I've been like you know, yeah, so it's really really in me, like I could easily been a dj. I'll show you all my collection, my record collection, tape collection, cd. I got terabytes and terabytes of music. I'm truly obsessed with this right. So I've always been very good at English and so, consequently, I used to write, you know, poems and poetry and all this shit a lot, and I got my first beat machine when I was 12.
Speaker 1:So I started making beats and I would make a beat every day before I went to school, before, you know, junior high school, every day. And um, one day I wrote, uh, how I started rapping. I was probably like 14, 13, 14, and lotty dotty was out by slick rick and and, uh, dougie, and at school somebody was doing with you know, we get pair up and I'll be the beatbox and the nigga spit the rap. Well, because I'm such a music person, I'm a lyric person. So the nigga was up there fucking the lyrics up, and so one thing you're not supposed to do. Now I know this as a man right, right, you correct the homie to the side, you don't correct him in front of women and shit like that. You feel me. But shit, ninth grade career nigga. I was like, hey, nigga, you fucking the words up. So I embarrassed the nigga. So the nigga say well, you spit him.
Speaker 1:Well, me, being who I am, I spit that shit all the way through. The way people reacted to me spitting that shit made me feel like it was my shit. So I went home and I wrote a rap to one of my beats that I would make each morning and I called my homegirl Renee up and I spit it for her and she was like going crazy and she called the homegirl sissy up on three way. I was on three ways, papa, and I spit it for sissy, I spit it for sissy, I spit it for sissy and next thing you know it's a trail of motherfuckers on the phone. I'm spitting this same stupid rap over and over and everybody was just acting like it was the best fucking thing. So from there I just started right rapping, I started writing excuse me, every fucking day, and probably like 13, 14 years old yeah, that's that's crazy, that's, that's a viral moment yeah, seriously right.
Speaker 1:When did you know? And then it clicked that you were this, that dope with the pen, lyrically, like. When it just clicked, like I'm, I'm, I'm nice, uh, I don't know that I ever felt like that, like that. I always felt like, because I love comedy and I love music and lyricism, I used to try to make myself laugh or say shit that if I heard somebody else say it I would think it was dope. Yeah, you feel me. But I never was like, oh, I'm this, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I've never felt like that to this day. Damn, that's good, yeah.
Speaker 1:So what advice would you give to the upcoming artists that wish they can do the same things that you do? Or just trying to get on the path? So, sidebar, I wouldn't tell somebody to do what I did because I didn't do it. Right, for what the gift God gave me, I didn't do what I was supposed to do. I put a toe in and a toe out, and that's why you know who I am. You ain't even supposed to know me personally if I would have did what I was supposed to do, gotcha.
Speaker 1:So I would tell somebody who thinks they want to do it to take themselves very, very serious Right To take themselves very, very serious. Do it every day, all day, breathe it, freestyle it. Want it really, really fucking bad. But then it's a matter of what you're doing it for. Are you doing it so you can get instant gratification from your peers because you know you're comparing them to who you guys collectively listen to and think is great? Or are you doing it because you want to do it on a grandstand in front of the world and show everybody your version of your interpretation of your shit Right.
Speaker 1:So first you have to know what you're doing it for Right, and if you're doing it for the latter, then you have to take it very fucking serious. You know what I mean? Because it requires a degree and a measure of selfishness that a lot of people aren't prepared to. You know what I mean. Yeah, to do so. I make kids early. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So when you make kids, early, you know what I'm saying if you work for a fraction of a fuck, you're gonna do what you're supposed to do as a parent, right? So I'm partially working the job. I'm'm partially. You know what I mean doing my shit. I've had like five, four record deals in my life, so we can get into all that later, but that's what I would tell them. Take yourself very serious, do it every fucking day. You know what I mean. Don't fuck around, be selfish, be serious, but it's going to require you to do something that might compromise your integrity if you really want to go through a certain door and I wasn't willing to do that.
Speaker 1:No disrespect to anybody else, that was, but I wasn't willing to go to those parties and meet with those guys and I wasn't willing to do that. I feel that one. So, as a parent, what challenges were brought to you when trying to complete projects and passions that you were trying to follow? Uh, making sure that my kid's mom didn't feel like it was just her by herself. So I was having to make sure that I made sure my kids wasn't made to feel like I was made to feel when I was a little nigga, you feel me. I spent a great deal of time feeling so sorry for him because it was like, oh you little helpless fuck, I got to teach you how to walk and talk and you know what I mean, show you what shit is and show you how to navigate through life.
Speaker 3:And my father didn't do that for me.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. He was truly like fuck you. And none of my stepdads, nobody wanted to be my fucking dad, and so fucking. I made sure that none of my kids felt like that Dads, that and so.
Speaker 3:I made sure that none of my kids felt like that. Des, stop See what I mean. That was.
Speaker 1:I mean shut up you right, I might be being a little too transparent, but that's the truth. No, I like that you spoke honesty there.
Speaker 2:I do be telling my kids like in my head shut up they don't know right, they're just trying to.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:I'm being honest, I relate to everything you just said. I relate to that shit.
Speaker 1:I love the shit out of my fucking kids. I mean they're grown now. You know what I mean. All my children ain't children, no more, but I still baby the fuck out of them. I still baby the fuck out of them. You know what I mean like for real sons and all. So what is the craziest story that you could share as your time as an artist? The craziest story? Oh shit, I got a lot of goddamn stories, boy. I mean we done had to almost fight the whole club. I remember one time I went to damn, I got a couple fucking stories.
Speaker 1:I used to be signed to this gangster rap label called Mob Style. And in 94, 93, cusp of 94, I fly out to new orleans. We're gonna do a show at a spot called whispers. I think about being signed to gangster niggas. They're gonna do what the fuck they want to do.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm a b-boy, I'm a hip-hopper, right. But you know I'm from the jacks, I'm from west side dino, you know so I'm from the Jets, I'm from Westside Dino, you know so I'm familiar like a motherfucker very, and I'm not going to gangbang. But when it comes to banging my name for my kids, my family, my friend, I'll bang that and you'll see what kind of man I am like that. But being signed to these brothers, these brothers was with the shit, so I don't know how the fuck they got them guns on that plane. I don't know how they got them guns on that goddamn plane. These niggas brought guns and got to New Orleans and bought Deuce, deuce, goddamn meat. You know how they had the 40 ounce bottle. Back in the day in the early 90s we had Deuce, deuce, right, deuce, deuce, right, deuce, deuce, but malt liquor these motherfuckers snuck in St Ives. Goddamn me, oe. You understand me, mickey, you understand.
Speaker 1:I don't know how they got all this shit in the club. Anyway, they was in there selling Zimas and shit. They wasn't even selling malt liquor in the goddamn club.
Speaker 3:Zimas Right, the goddamn club Zimas Right, I ain't heard that either man them, son of a bitches, found out.
Speaker 1:We had that shit up in there, man. They asked them to put it away once, they asked them twice, they asked them more than Beans and Rye Took us all in the motherfucking corner and shit, and we fought. They kicked us out physically, beat our asses out that goddamn club. Oh wow, Nigga, I didn't bring none Right, but I'm with these niggas and if I'm with you, I'm with you, goddamn it fuck it. They beat your ass. They got to beat mine and they did.
Speaker 3:They beat our ass all the way up that goddamn fucking club.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, that was one of the craziest. Same shit happened in Hawaii, but we almost had to fight the whole club.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you're on an island stuck. Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:Right and they was brawling us to death. Hey brah.
Speaker 3:I said God damn.
Speaker 1:Motherfuck that little Hawaiian girl liked it. I said what I said that motherfucker was ready to risk it all over that little Hawaiian girl. You said Mickey's Rami, my dad.
Speaker 2:My dad used to drink Mickey's like a motherfucker. Mickey's Rami, my dad. My dad used to drink Mickey's like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mickey's Big Mouth, or that 40?, 40.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and he was cool with the guy at the corner store so every time I would be over there he'd be like man, go down there and give him this, he'd go and he'd come right back Like nigga where am I going to get your 40?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Straight to it service back there.
Speaker 1:That nigga used to drink Mickey's and Hennessy Like a motherfucker. I don't even want to go through the range of drinks niggas have been drinking over the years. Shit Ridiculous. Those were my days. Mickey's, yeah.
Speaker 2:And the Green Bottle. Yeah, the Green Bottle. We started with the Big.
Speaker 1:Bounce the little ones, the Biggie Big Bounce. We found out they had the 40s. Good, got them up, so you said you were signed to four different labels.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that deal I just mentioned being signed to the gangster rap label, mob Style Records. That was my very first record deal. Shout out to OG Fresh. Rest in Peace, Gangsta Bub. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Brothers from Rubidoux they had a label and they had a group. They had a group called New Breed of Hustlers and them brothers was they was getting some, they was putting up some big numbers and, like Warner and different motherfuckers was knocking at them niggas door. They didn't ever sign with them and shit. They wanted to stay independent but some shit ended up happening and you know it's history and you know it's history. But, oh, shout out to silky rest in peace. To baby cass little cast yep. And then from there, um, my cousin and I got a record deal with, uh, jimmy jam and terry lewis. We were on perspective records. That was. That was dope, just to be able to say it. Yeah, you know what I mean. Project got shelved because we was on there talking about burning hell and, goddamn me, we was on there talking crazy to be 23 and 24 years old. So it's a funny story about that. That record ended up getting shelved and fast forward 2022, it was myself, sly Boogie and DJ KMP, dj KMP is E-40's DJ right now.
Speaker 1:So fast forward to 2022,. Dj KMP called me like Bird. It's a German company want to put out the fucking Black Spook album. I was like what I said? Nigga, it ain't bread, you understand. They just put the shit out. Nigga you understand, can we get a couple dollars? He was like yeah, what I'm saying, they was going to put the shit out. They was like you know what I'm saying, can we get a couple dollars?
Speaker 2:He was like yeah, yeah, can we get a couple dollars, and he was like they going to put out albums, cassettes and CDs. I was like no shit. He said 2022?
Speaker 1:Yeah, 2022. And they were going to put the cassette. Yeah, wow, cassettes, cds, yeah, yeah, I got a CD in the car right now. Yeah, they put that. Finally, 28, 30, damn near 30 years later, the fucking album comes out. I'm listening to that motherfucker cringing. Yeah, yeah, the fuck, young dummy, I'm on this side of the kind of shit. Like praise everybody that this didn't come out.
Speaker 2:But it's you know. You saw the growth though.
Speaker 1:I did, I did, and it's hip-hop heads, djs that really love that album. You know what I mean, but for me it was a terrible time.
Speaker 3:It was a different time.
Speaker 1:It was a terrible time. I was already married at that time with three, four, no five kids. You feel me? Yeah, I already had four by my wife and a child that was out of state.
Speaker 2:You said five kids, maybe you want to get them to go to work right now. My publishing was called Five Seeds. At that time I got ten now, but at that time Damn.
Speaker 3:Then what kids Jesus I?
Speaker 1:got six daughters and four sons Spreading.
Speaker 3:That's a beautiful legacy.
Speaker 1:All of them Well off. Two of my daughters married, two of them got kids. They married Well, one of them is engaged I digress and two of the other ones are married and my youngest one is going to school for forensics. I got another baby that's doing well and another baby that's doing very well.
Speaker 2:That's what's up. That's what's up.
Speaker 1:All my kids got diplomas jobs, college degrees. You know what I mean Five different women. So that's how serious I was. I sacrificed my career to make sure I was available for them. You feel me and present, Make sure they had what I didn't have the music wasn't more important than that to me.
Speaker 2:You feel me yeah.
Speaker 1:Because all the Dirty Birdie shit is is just me is a five-year-old black kid that didn't get no therapy for the trauma and shit. You feel me, nigga, just trauma bonding with the music and shit. You know what I mean? It's just spitting shit that I probably should have talked to somebody about but didn't know how to manage that shit. That resonates for me, yeah, so I just spew that shit.
Speaker 2:That's a tough one for me, because then I'm like well, sometimes maybe it's like fuck it, because it's better to have the art.
Speaker 3:You know what niggas the hill. I know it sounds fucked up, but I was like hill. I know it sounds fucked up.
Speaker 2:But I was like I know it sounds fucked up.
Speaker 1:So here's the thing though the art is the is the healing the healing comes through the expression.
Speaker 2:I feel like you learned that till later though, where you was like oh shit, I didn't realize I was fucked up nah I.
Speaker 1:I knew early on I was fucked up, but you feel me. But I was fucked up, uh-oh, you feel me, but I was able to hide my shit. I learned to cope very early. So I was a coper man and I mastered it. I'm a master at coping, you feel me. So I was able to work a job, be a dad you know what I mean. Go make a beat, write some shit, you feel me. Go pretend like I like people.
Speaker 1:I like being around people Like this. Right here is my ideal setting when I go do a show. I like to go do my shit, get the fuck on.
Speaker 2:That's all I like to do.
Speaker 1:And people. Some people take it like I'm being funny. No, motherfucker, I don't like large groups of people, yeah me neither.
Speaker 2:People don't know that about me. Sometimes you just want to hang out with motherfuckers out there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't want to mix and mingle, I'm not here to mix and mingle. I don't want to hang out Me either.
Speaker 3:At my age I don't want to hang out Me either.
Speaker 2:I want to go where I'm comfortable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, like you know, and I love my people, don't get me wrong. I like seeing them partying and shit over there.
Speaker 3:Now look here.
Speaker 1:But I don't want to. But getting back to your question, so it was new breed. I was on Mob Style, then Perspective and then after that we got offered to deal with Junior Registrant again who was our A&R on Pers, but Sly and I didn't take the deal and then after that, uh, we were going to do our own. You know, as independent artist projects or whatever start going up to the wake-up show, some things happen.
Speaker 1:Sly ended up signing with them and me and, like four of my friends, end up starting a label and putting a record out with international distribution, and so you know it is what it is. And then, after that, I started my own shit. I got my own shit. Now, that's what's up. You feel me? So it's been a journey and I got a lot of stories in between that. Yeah, man, but just to answer your question, that's it. That's the whole deal. What was the low you had mentally when trying to still continue with your career? Oh man, the low, yeah, in terms of like mentally or financially?
Speaker 2:what do you mean mentally?
Speaker 1:like I guess it ties into the next question like the lows, as far as mentally trying to question if you should still keep doing it. Did you ever have a time where you question if you should still be doing it or if you can continue to do it and trying to like, I guess, navigate that and still keep the positive outlook, like I can still make this a career, still make this a career? So I've fought, probably since like 19, with whether I should still do it Right, over and over and over.
Speaker 2:I have that fight every year.
Speaker 1:Right, I've had it several times this year Cause you know the nigga's fucking tired. You know what I mean and my fan base has been so fucking loving and so loyal and so patient with tired. You know what I mean and my fan base has been so fucking loving and so loyal and so patient with me. You know what I mean. They allow me to just drop singles and they complain. I see them in the comments Nigga, fuck this single. Where's the fucking album, nigga? You know? Yeah, and because hip hop has gone through so many crazy different transitions and shit and my preference for hip, I like traditional hop, you feel me. I like really dope beats over pretty sounds. You know what I mean and I like to do my psychology mixed with comedy, sprinkled with pornography shit over that. You know that's what I like doing, it's dope Because of my sense of humor.
Speaker 1:thank you, sir, it's dope, very dope, right so. But you know that vibe and that sound isn't the present. You know vibration of choice sonically on the radio, and you know what I mean. There's a collective of us that still vibe like that and I guess that's who I do it for. You know what I mean, but sometimes motherfuckers feel like these niggas ain't worried about what I'm talking about. No more, I was going to say most of that radio shit is trash to me.
Speaker 2:I mean, it is, it's pushing a terrible agenda.
Speaker 1:When I was coming up, man, you had your songs that made you want to have a girlfriend and treat her good. You know what I mean. The rap songs wasn't about. They wasn't calling motherfuckers out there. You might have one or two, and they was the key ones because they were special. It was only one or two of them. You know what I mean. And everybody else was just rapping regular. You know Regular being I'm a better MC than you. Or you got to love yourself or you know it's a party. You know what I mean. That's what motherfuckers was talking about when I was coming up. So and you know the people that are part of the agenda to do to take us to the second slavery. You know what I mean. They want to because it's very influential put things in a young, impressionable person's head that might make them make a poor choice and end up compromising their life or their freedom. You know what I mean. Yeah, and it's all a financial thing. I feel that you know what I'm saying. So pop pills and kill yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know, sadly enough, some of it comes under some really nice drums and some of it is just some fuckery. That it's fun to say, but you have to be able to separate that and then go okay, that's just that song. We had fun singing it, but that's not how.
Speaker 3:I'm going to engage going forth in my life. You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean In my pursuit of fucking financial freedom.
Speaker 2:I know a lot of broke niggas that get pussy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was one of them. Shit, I got 10 kids, but five women I fuck more than 10 times. Do that shit, call me slipper. You know what I mean. Got me, got me. So what? Oh my god, what's one talent or skill that people may not know you have? Um, uh. What's one talent or skill that people may not know you have? Um, uh, I, um, I probably should have been a counselor or a therapist. There you go. I could have been a therapist, for whatever reason. I have a very good gift of discernment and I give really good advice, and people don't know that unless you know me, and I'm a natural barber too. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I do my own grooming.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying he's here that doesn't mean I'm gonna cut your beard he always trying to make connections and shit. I'm always trying to make connections. I ain't bad at you.
Speaker 3:I feel like I can relate to that.
Speaker 2:I feel like I give good advice, but I can't take more of the advice.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I feel like that too.
Speaker 2:I struggle with my own shit, but I can help people with theirs. It's weird.
Speaker 3:You'd probably still be a good therapist, because the first thing I learned in school was that therapists need a therapist.
Speaker 1:And you know what I do, that's true. I got one of those. I like to shave in the shower when I'm needed a therapist. You know what I do. I like to shave in the shower when I'm taking a shower. I put one of those bathroom mirrors in that motherfucker man. I cuss myself out every fucking five times a week in that fucking mirror. Yeah, like nigga. What the fuck man?
Speaker 2:I do that shit sometimes You're supposed to.
Speaker 1:I cuss myself because I'm my own daddy, like nigga. What the fuck man? I do that shit sometimes. You're supposed to for real.
Speaker 2:I cuss myself cause I'm my own daddy nigga, shit there was a couple times where I was like man, you fucking up, get your shit together, that part, that's how you gotta do yourself, man.
Speaker 1:That's how you gotta do yourself, excuse me, yeah, yeah he said, yeah, in the shower. In the shower you be angry in the shower hey, man, that's the start of the day.
Speaker 2:That's my pep talk.
Speaker 1:I mean. Angry is a strong word, angry, but you know what I mean. Unless I made a poor choice and I'm mad about my. You know what I mean, unless I made a poor choice and I'm mad about myself. You know what I mean Like brother, you know better.
Speaker 2:Why'd you do that? You can't tell me that you and everyone in the mirror have been disappointed at yourself, like when you fucking, no, in the mirror, but like in the shower.
Speaker 1:I'm usually like I mean because, listen, I try to be like trying to be in shit type of person that talks to people about your shit, right, and you just kind of talk to yourself about it. Sometimes you need a face to look at to say that shit to at least me so when I'm in that motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Like I said, I cuss myself out sometimes I feel it, you feel me and it helps me out, you know. I don't cuss at other people, I cuss at myself in the car.
Speaker 1:No, I cuss at other people too. God, I hate people Driving. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh. All day, you know my-. Why would you do that? That's my favorite shit. Why would you do that? Dumb as a box of fucking rocks, that's my favorite shit. Scooch your ass over. So you did all that? Just to get in front of me and go slow. I say that shit all the time, that just to get in front of me and go slow.
Speaker 1:I hate everything about you. Don't even know this person. Get by them and they old. I'll be like oh. I'm sorry baby, Just move dang.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they built the roads.
Speaker 2:Fucking lying. Every time I get cut off, the guy's like, look at, you played yourself All that. For what Played yourself? I?
Speaker 1:love that. So what is your creative process when writing and creating verses or songs? My creative process, yeah, presently it's me and my phone. Presently I'll keep it real. Growing up.
Speaker 1:I still have every notepad I've ever written a rhyme on. I got them front and back page. You know what I mean? In my music room at the crib I just got a ridiculous amount of fucking notebooks and I used to always just write to a beat. I'd have to have a beat first. Sometimes I'll come up with a hook in my mind and then I'll write some shit and figure I have to find a beat for it, you know so sometimes it's that way, but mostly these days I'll have a beat or we'll make up one on the spot. It depends on what project I'm working on, right? So, like I said, I love music. I've always sang and collected records and all that shit. So I have a project with a producer Fingers and it's under the name Dirty Hathaway and I'm just singing on that shit. That's dope. And I'm rapping too, but not in the Dirty Birdie voice. You know, that's a whole different guy. And then I have the dirty birdie stuff and that stuff is either is mostly stank, sending me something or me going through my emails from a beat I had him send me several years ago and it still sounds relevant to me. So, or it still makes me feel a certain kind of way, so I'll shout up the doctor stank yeah, shout out to stank. My brother, yes. And funk john yeah, shout out to dre. So what projects do you have in the works? Well, you just mentioned one. Uh, what future projects that you have in the works that you want to do future? Yeah, uh, I'll probably go ahead and release the digital cardiac album, the dirty birdie digital cardiac album. I'm gonna go ahead and release it. I got probably like four or five singles out right now on spotify, apple, whatever the hell. Um, so I'm gonna do that. And then fingers, and I have been slowly releasing singles off of the dirty hathaway project, so I'm gonna do that. And then fingers and I have been slowly releasing singles off of the dirty Hathaway project, so I'm gonna finish that. I'm gonna do some videos and some reels for both of those things.
Speaker 1:My son and I. My son all my sons is spitters. Um, my youngest baby is a monster. My son shout out to my son, kahari. He just turned 26. He's a monster. Shout out to my son, lil Kareem. He's a freestyle fanatic, so have they all challenged you? I don't think that they would do that because they grew up like literally sitting at my desk and going through my library Like they know how much shit I have. They wouldn't do that For fun, maybe Just to fuck with me. What would Pop say? But they haven't done that. But my youngest? He spits, like me, the most Kahari. He got his own style and he raps in a low tone and he's dope as fuck. He's dope as fuck. I ain't just saying that he's dope as fuck. Find no good hip hop. You make good hip hop. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:He's dope as fuck, and then and my baby, though he is a bar god. That's what's up.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like how you suddenly just said that they can't see you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hey man.
Speaker 1:That confidence is. So listen, that would take them too long to catch up, you know what I mean yeah. I've done every style and they've heard a shit ton of them, but I still got the vault in there in that closet with notebooks full of shit that I ain't never even spit to nobody, that's so not once, like every time every once in a while.
Speaker 2:You know you gotta try to like hit a jump shot on pops once in a while.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna tell you right now, at this age, man, go on if you.
Speaker 3:I'm going to tell you right now, at this age man, go on.
Speaker 1:If you can get one off, god bless you. Little nigga, fuck with that, because you ain't made me upset. You're my baby. I'm the reason why you can do what you do. I love it. That's dope. That is very dope so.
Speaker 3:Des you ready? Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:You sure? No, no, she ain't ready.
Speaker 3:I don't have a choice but to be ready. First of all, I am high as hell over here.
Speaker 1:I've been hungry for 15 minutes. I'm sorry, des. No, you're fine fucking second hand smoke is the truth ain't it god dang.
Speaker 3:I've been trying to hold it together for like 15 minutes god damn, that's funny.
Speaker 1:So 15 good, god dang, I've been trying to hold it together for like 15 minutes. God damn, that's funny. So 15 good ones. Here we go. Let's go Dirty Birdie.
Speaker 1:What is your top five? Dead or alive MCs, all right. So I'm going to tell you like this All right, I've been listening to hip-hop since 79. All right, you can't ask a nigga that's been listening to this shit for this long five funky ass people. I don't have to be. There's been decades and decades of mcs, yeah, and there have been motherfuckers that were the top in their decade. So it's hard for me to go overall. This is right.
Speaker 1:So what I'll tell you is this for what has influenced me as a rapper, or as an MC, if you will, and made me want to do it? Because there's been a lot of groups that I vibe to, like Tribe Called Quest. I vibe to them, but as an emcee I don't listen to them for inspiration, lyrically for me. You know what I mean. I like them as rappers and they are dope. I would never take nothing from them. I would never diss them or say they were whack. They're not whack, but they don't motivate somebody like me to write something keeping it live. No disrespect, you know what I'm saying. So they wouldn't be in my top five MCs. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:If we're talking about MCs that inspired and influenced me, mine starts from when I first started wanting to fuck with this shit. But first and foremost, like DMX told my cousin Sly, he said nigga, who's the nigga out there, out here? Sly got the name in different. He stopped that nigga and said then you're supposed to say you, you first, the fuck, right, right. So me, nigga, I'm, I'm my number, motherfucking one. But for who influenced me when I was a little nigga, off the rip, shout out to stank. I'm going to tell you who I learned what from who. From Melly Mel.
Speaker 1:I learned breath control as an MC. I didn't know nothing about punching in and shit like that. It didn't sound like he was punching. I don't know, maybe they were, but for me he was wrapping that shit all the way through and I couldn't hear when he was taking a breath. It's breath control. So my first guy is gonna be melty mel, for me because of breath control. Ll cool j is who made me want to rap, though. I learned vocabulary and stage presence from ll cool j. Slick rick is the reason why I went home and wrote the rap that day, because I repeated his shit when I was in the ninth grade. I like slick rick because of his cleverness, his wittiness, his style and his charisma.
Speaker 1:Now, as somebody being here in 86, I'm writing and all these east coast niggas is the shit. Who was the shit for me at that time in conjunction with those guys? But was a West Coast nigga was Ice Cube. Ice Cube is my nigga, but before Cube we didn't have a whole lot of motherfuckers, that was bar niggas. It was King T, king T, believe me. So King T, ice Cube. Then it's Rakim, then it's KRS, then it's Koo G Rap, then it's Big Daddy Kane and Grand Poobah, then Pharoah Monch, then Tretch, then Nas, then Redman, killer, priest, Rod Digger, eminem and Kendrick.
Speaker 1:Eminem and Kendrick. Now it don't mean that I don't love a whole bunch of other motherfuckers for their shit, right, because I love some of everybody Like real talk Motherfuckers and niggas be like. I like him for what he does. That nigga's good at doing him. I fucks with that nigga's shit Because I'm not comparing him to somebody else, right? This ain't no comparison game for me, right? I like you for what you do, not because you remind me of Wootie Woop or you know this nigga rap better than you. Nah, nigga, you dope as fuck. I like you for it, nigga you doing you. Nah, nigga, you dope as fuck. I like you for it, nigga you doing you. Nigga, that shit sound dope to me. You feel me?
Speaker 2:That's how I look at it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So for me I don't have to be like comparing this one to that one and all that. That nigga's dope at what he does. That nigga's dope at what he does. Do I have more songs that resonate with me by this nigga than this nigga because of the beat selections, and maybe he's know how to write verses or hooks better, yeah, but that don't mean this nigga ain't dope as fuck too. I fucks with both of these niggas. That's how I look at it. I fuck with that. So I don't have a really a top five like that.
Speaker 3:Sorry, you cool with that yeah, that was a great list. I don't have any complaints. Okay, sure, I'm positive. What are you holding in?
Speaker 1:I'm not holding anything in well, you can't, I don't know so what are your uh socials so they can get at you? I am Dirty Birdie on Insta, dirty Birdie 909 on TikTok, dirty Birdie 909, I want to say, on Twitter. I don't really be on Twitter. I mostly engage on Insta and TikTok and also for the dinosaur, dinosaur vibe. I fuck with Facebook, family and you know niggas. I grew up with and shit. I like seeing that, but that's under my government, which is Kareem Jermaine, so I'm an old man now cause.
Speaker 2:I'm a I'm a Facebook nigga. Yeah, I'm an old Facebook, nigga too.
Speaker 1:I fuck with it. So I want to say thank you again for being a part of this today. This has like been a it's like my favorite episode, bar none for sure, man. Thank you for having me. Man, I learned a lot. I didn't get a contact high like Des, but I did get a high from I'm over here high as a kite.
Speaker 3:It's too late, baby. I'm over here high as a kite.
Speaker 1:But I do the game. You dropped the charisma. The fact that you said you fuck with my music just made me fucking. It just made my day. So again.
Speaker 3:Did it inspire you?
Speaker 2:You've all been writing the last few days To release.
Speaker 1:I do write all the time.
Speaker 2:The question is are you going to release?
Speaker 1:We'll see you have to. I just know this man inspires a lot of us, specifically me, and it meant a lot for you to show up here. Can I ask?
Speaker 2:a question real quick Is it possible to get a McF? Can I ask a question real quick Is it possible to get a McFly Dirty Birdie song together?
Speaker 3:Oh, I would love that. Can we make that happen? Oh, I would love that.
Speaker 1:Shoot me the beat. My only stipulation is whatever it is, we gotta shoot a video for it. Oh, I love that. I want that. As long as we shoot a video for it, we can do it. Oh, I love that, I'm with that. As long as we shoot a video for it, we can do it, alright, okay.
Speaker 1:That is dope, because everything I do going forward in my life and I learn I do it like I'm doing it for TV. I take everything serious. I don't just do it just to do it. So if we gonna do it, let's do it, Okay, you?
Speaker 2:feel me yeah.
Speaker 3:I fucks with you. It's nothing. It's nothing.
Speaker 1:I just made my fucking week year, um, but again I want to thank you for being here, uh, thank you. You're always welcome back, always welcome and it's been a vibe and uh, show your love, support, support, like, subscribe, share and comment. All that shit To next time. We love you. Peace Yo, and real quick my shirts. Yo hit me about the shirt. You mind letting them see the back? Oh yeah, send them to the back, shit, I don't want to fuck them all.
Speaker 3:My bad yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 3:I like it. That's so cute.
Speaker 1:That dirty birdie right there. You feel me Get at me. I got all sizes. You feel me $25. Holler at a real one. I got hats too. Tweet, tweet, peace, peace, peace.
Speaker 3:This has been another episode of the Heavyweight Podcast Talk your shit, of the Heavyweight Podcast Talk your shit.
Speaker 2:One thing about me, baby, I'm showing up every week to see who coming to talk their shit. Y'all better show up with me. See you there, bye.
