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The Heavyweight Podcast Season 2 Episode 204

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You put on a face for the world. But who are you behind it?

This episode is a deep dive into the unspoken side of adult identity, hidden emotions, and the pressure of always being the strong one. The crew unpacks how we balance authenticity with acceptance, and the quiet battles we fight while showing up for everyone else.

Expect storytelling, vulnerability, and the truth we all live but rarely voice.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Heavyweight Podcast.

Speaker 2:

The message behind saying the title of the Heavyweight Podcast is to be able to say that we can weigh in on some heavy shit. What we're talking about is important from every aspect of it. It's a heavy weight. It's not just about physical weight, but the weight of things that can weigh our minds. So I think it's dope that we can have this conversation mind.

Speaker 3:

So I think it's dope that we can have this conversation. So I think one of the parts of being an adult that we don't get taught is how to have self accountability, how to kind of just take accountability of who you're becoming, letting go of old thoughts so that you can be the next version of yourself. So today we're going to talk about our identities as adults. This is episode 204 of the heavyweight podcast. I'm des the diva and once again I'm back with my three favorite gentlemen.

Speaker 1:

Introduce yourself, guys uh, I go by the name of uh tracy chapskin.

Speaker 3:

Oh Okay, Tracy.

Speaker 1:

You know, she got a fast car.

Speaker 4:

Introduce yourself this nigga's hilarious. First of all, off the the top, you said 204 and I'm mad because you should have said 205. It's your boy, molito um.

Speaker 2:

I'm punch slump mcfly uh what punch, slump mcfly. Remember the punch saved my life oh, oh it did.

Speaker 4:

But why the slump, though?

Speaker 3:

Because he slumped over yeah he slumped him. He slumped over. How were your weeks, gentlemen, better.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you know what? This week was better. This week was way better.

Speaker 4:

Oh man, the repairs are done.

Speaker 3:

That's what's up? The repairs are done. All what's up, the repairs are done all right thank god for insurance.

Speaker 1:

A lot of motherfuckers in the house making a lot of noise, but, yeah, thank god for insurance. Had an old person tell us, hey, you're doing it the right way though. And I'm like, thanks, I couldn't pay for this with my own money. Shit, they definitely ran it up. They probably did more than they needed to. Oh, definitely. I was like you didn't need to cut all of that out Definitely. But go ahead Definitely. I'm happy with that.

Speaker 4:

What's up Yours? It was better than last week, but it was expensive. We are two weeks out. I'm leaving for camp and I had to buy three leotards. Put money back for snacks. I had to tell my mother-in-law that she cannot bring anybody with her. You barely got a spot yourself.

Speaker 3:

Oh, my God.

Speaker 4:

And just working. You know you barely got a spot yourself. Oh my God, just working. You know, gym fees, life, but my wife's ass is still fat.

Speaker 3:

Well, alright, how about you? As Sebastian says my wife, the body is tea. The body is tea.

Speaker 2:

t shout out to sebastian, whose body is actually t? Oh man I. I went back to work and we missed you. It wasn't the same and had to deal with uh, the, the company, and the realization that a lot of times, shop stewards don't do much for you then we doing shit they just blow smoke up your ass all the way so you're over here thinking oh yeah, like what, what's? So what's the purpose of you intervening here, if, if, it doesn't change anything, but anyway, yeah yeah well, I had a good week.

Speaker 3:

I didn't do shit, it was a good week how's that different from the other week? You such a damn hater. I do a lot in a week your girl is out here making moves, baby.

Speaker 4:

I do a lot in a week it doesn't matter what you see.

Speaker 3:

A lot of shit ain't for you you right, I'm not.

Speaker 4:

I'm not your demographic your demographic ain't real, niggas.

Speaker 3:

I got the realest niggas on my demographic. That's why I don't come down your motherfucking timeline. Nigga, it's always a nigga with a mouth sitting next to me on this side. It's a real nigga on this side and a nigga with a mouth on this side and a nigga with jokes over there.

Speaker 1:

I just didn't know. We need to pause a nigga with a mouth.

Speaker 4:

Do we pause that, or no, we'll keep that in there.

Speaker 3:

That's my wife who are you when nobody's watching? Tell me that. That's what I want to know about you. Let's start with you. Who are you when nobody's watching, and do you like this version of yourself? You, the same nigga all the time I get on my own nerves uh, yeah, I can see that happening, do you? Like this version of yourself.

Speaker 4:

I do like the version of the person. I'm becoming All right. I do like my healing fit self.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 4:

It's a different me. It really is better for all parties that are involved, all people I'm around. It's better because I have the tools in place to control my rage and my anger, and so it really benefits everybody, not just me.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's good I like this. The thing about it is this nigga be lying to y'all. This nigga love me. Okay, he does, he does.

Speaker 2:

The way you said these, I got these real niggas on my demographic. I was like it, just it sounded. It didn't sound like demographics but you meant, oh what? What does he mean? I don't know.

Speaker 3:

It just sounded the way she phrased it, just like jockstrap. Yeah, like they on my like. I got real niggas on my like. I was like damn like and do you got real niggas on my strap and and do okay. Thank you very much I just never looked at demographic in that like show ass up, maurice, damn Maurice.

Speaker 2:

Damn. It's like a new definition of D or something.

Speaker 3:

Do you? Who are you when no one's watching?

Speaker 2:

That's actually An obsessive nigga that talks to himself a lot.

Speaker 3:

You do. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Ain't nothing wrong with that. You talk to the realest nigga. You know, because you know you can't call this nigga yeah he called me all the time.

Speaker 2:

I knew you was going to say See, I was trying to catch it before you said it.

Speaker 4:

This nigga's lying, because I don't call him I don't even understand why I have a phone. I know why you got it For the bars.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean a piece of paper could suffice.

Speaker 1:

But the other part.

Speaker 4:

What part is that? The coping? Oh yes, that's funny. You got the phone to call out, call out sick yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2:

I don't even do that, though. No, I walk in and say, hey, thursday, friday, and I don't even have to finish the sentence alright, see you next week, alright yeah, I'm mellow when nobody's watching.

Speaker 3:

I'm real mellow. I'm like I like to. I'm very much like to put my feet in the grass and hug trees and shit. I'm super mellow when nobody's watching super chill.

Speaker 1:

I believe it super, super chill, I think.

Speaker 3:

I enjoy solitude too.

Speaker 1:

I think I got a little bit of diva in me okay, you better be a diva.

Speaker 2:

Care for the diva.

Speaker 1:

A little bit sometimes If ain't nobody in the car and a little Rihanna or something. Come on, ain't nothing wrong with that? I got a couple moves that I'm like I would never do this in front of nobody.

Speaker 2:

Ain't nothing wrong with that, like karaoke, like moves? Or are you just saying like Look here. Yeah, karaoke moves Like a note, some of the mannerisms, oh okay, Gotcha Nigga.

Speaker 1:

I ain't never doing this Well.

Speaker 3:

I would love to drive past your ass in traffic.

Speaker 4:

Don't be ashamed of that shit, Kev. I don't give a damn. Let Cocoa ass be singer. I'm singing every word like she sing it.

Speaker 3:

Can I post SWv without you?

Speaker 1:

coco see like I can't get myself to pop ass, but I get this urge when rihanna, come on, I'll be like nah nigga like triggered me.

Speaker 2:

no, no. Last night I was playing my songs for uh the baby and he usually always like my, my cheerleading squad, and at some point he put his hands on his knees and was trying to pop. I said where the fuck did you get that from?

Speaker 3:

And it threw me like I think babies all naturally do that. I think that's a natural baby dance.

Speaker 2:

He was. I said that Is he trying to twerk?

Speaker 1:

Well, Gracelyn is more like Elvis. It's weird. Like when she started doing her shit I was like what the fuck? Who does that?

Speaker 3:

Really Fucking at Grace, all right.

Speaker 1:

That's Graceland.

Speaker 4:

Well played oh.

Speaker 1:

God.

Speaker 3:

Well played.

Speaker 1:

That shit cracked me up, though, though I just like it she's so cute.

Speaker 3:

Who is this? She's so cute. What part of your identity do you feel is most misunderstood? My face touche, nigga touche. They think I'm always mad because you do look always mad. I couldn't figure you out when I first met you either oh shit I kept asking like how do I is?

Speaker 2:

he mad I think it's my personality in general. It's like it's like people intentionally try to misunderstand me, which is weird I don't know.

Speaker 3:

People do it all the time intentionally. You are completely different than I thought you were now that I know you in in person. I liked you before. I always thought you was pretty damn cool. I like you better now that I kind of have like a better like understanding of your personality. So it might not be that they're intentionally misunderstanding you. You put so little out there for us to know. You really have to spend time with you to kind of get an idea of what your personality is, but I didn't disappoint.

Speaker 2:

You know what they say about your heroes perfect timing I had to, I had that was played, well played that was extremely

Speaker 3:

I want to say something else though I'm glad that you, when you talking man, I'm tired of you, I'm tired of you real bad, real fucking bad. Just you answer the damn question what? What part of you?

Speaker 1:

my face, your face, yes, you sir I think people think I'm fucking sweet, like they think they get like like okay, Like okay sweet.

Speaker 3:

Like they can try you. Yeah, I'm like what the fuck.

Speaker 1:

Like they think like I got more grit than they know Like I, and that's fine, though Fuck it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I get that same thing.

Speaker 4:

No, I didn't get that from you. I definitely feel like you're the type of person that you have the grit.

Speaker 3:

It's just it probably takes you a while to get there. It takes a whole lot to get there, but it's like I don't know. I just feel like sometimes yeah, and that's where we're the opposite I'm. I start with yeah, you start with the bullshit. You go directly to nigga shit like sandpaper but I feel like once you you get there, niggas just need to move yeah, I don't go there, though there ain't no need, but it's like not even that, like even.

Speaker 4:

Well, I guess it's just when that niggas get there oh yeah, oh uh yeah I tell niggas all the time you piss them off enough. I can't help you because I'm not strong enough to stop them. All I can do is talk to you, you, you.

Speaker 3:

The day that we were in here sitting and you were angry, and when the car pulled up, baby, when I tell you I had my purse on my lap, I was finna go, I said hell, no, I'm not finna be witness to this man dragging this man up and down this damn garage. I'm about to go.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't have done that to kevin's. I had my purse where I was ready to go. So kevin's a real one, because he looked at me like nigga, don't come outside. I got it.

Speaker 3:

I said oh, he sure did, he sure did. I said oh god, and I'm just here going, you okay this nigga really showed up like anyway yeah, you're definitely not the one. I I want to be making mad. Let's see. Um, does it feel like this is a good one? Does it feel like you had to become an adult before you were ready?

Speaker 3:

most definitely hell yes, but I feel like, more than once like I feel like in my childhood I was adulting before I was ready, and then I feel like, once I turned 18, my mom was like bitch, you grow, go figure it out.

Speaker 2:

I picture all was putting on a pot of coffee and getting the day started at seven years old some shit right, that's literally how it was, though.

Speaker 1:

I feel like, no, no, I feel like I had the space just by all the like. I had shit that we had to deal with as a kid that wasn't normal for kids shit, but I had the space to I nigga. I feel like I grew up late doing a lot of the stupid shit I did, but like that's good that I had that.

Speaker 2:

You had a good childhood. No, I did, I did.

Speaker 1:

I had some wild shit in it, but overall, yeah, I had some wild shit in it, but overall, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3:

I don't think I ever really got to be a kid. I think that's why I like shit. Now that kids will do like I will borrow your kids and take them to the damn. See the damn Lilo and Stitch, because I well, she's free tomorrow. I'm telling you right now because I because I didn't get to do a lot of those things and like I like to blow bubbles, I love flying kites. I love flying kites I keep.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you don't lose that, even if you didn't do it I never did if you did do it, you know.

Speaker 2:

I thought she was talking slang blowing bubbles no flying kites oh you're talking about?

Speaker 3:

I don't want to go to jail. No, that's not true. There's the diva it's not for me, but I do. I like to do a lot of like things that I should have gotten to do as a kid. I didn't get to do. You can catch me finger painting oh good thing, you went there.

Speaker 1:

Finger painting. Yeah, Because we was talking about Jill and I was like she'd be the punishment. Put your gun down.

Speaker 3:

Best damn finger painting you ever fucking.

Speaker 2:

Finger painting is the punishment Best damn one. All these slang words, I don't.

Speaker 3:

That you ever saw. You can do it, though Still black foal.

Speaker 4:

I feel like I had to grow up quick and because you know the situation I was in and because you know the situation I was in, like, where I had to be, I had the situation where I had to be big brother taking care of baby sister type thing and make sure she was okay. So I had to. There was a part of me where I had to have actually worry about my siblings during the times where I was staying with, actually worry about my siblings, um, during the times where I stand with my mom, type type situation. That definitely made me grow up.

Speaker 4:

But then I also have points where when I was with my grandparents I had I had a great childhood but then part of that was because I was so self-sufficient and I did what I had to do, or, and I did it good in school, I didn't really get in trouble, stuff like that. I did what I had to do and I did it good in school, I didn't really get in trouble, or stuff like that. I was kind of isolated because it was like, oh, we don't have to worry about him.

Speaker 4:

So it was like oh, he's fine, so we're going to focus somewhere else. You know type thing, Like we know, like we're not getting called up to the school for real. He's bringing home the. It was good and I got anything I asked for, but it was still kind of lonely, so I had to learn how to cope with being alone and essentially being responsible for myself even though I wasn't really responsible for myself.

Speaker 1:

Does latchkey count, though? Because I didn't even think about that because I had to be. We just was home. It was just me and my sister. She's two years older than me. I mean, that's how it was me and my sister.

Speaker 4:

she's two years older than me. We just I mean, that's how it was in the night, you were the babysitter.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh yeah, child care oh yeah, I babysat dominique, so them. I said somebody told me happy mother's day when I was like 12. I'm like this is my fucking sister. What do we? Dominique got to the point she put her own damn stroller out sitting there and like herself she knew we was going outside yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4:

So I think that that I did. There was parts of my life where I felt like I had to grow up like, and there was under like I also had to understand that, even like as a teenager, like my grandparents were older, they can't, they couldn't do the stuff other parents could do. So I knew I couldn't ask them for certain things or deduce or take me certain places. I just knew that physically they weren't able to do it. So so it was like that point. It was like, yeah, I understand that some of this I had to do, figure out on my own how to get done, type deal.

Speaker 3:

So what were your expectations of adulthood? When you were a child, Like what did you think it?

Speaker 4:

was going to be like, let's say, pre-teenage. Pre-teenage. Oh yeah, McFly answered the question.

Speaker 3:

Damn Des you did. I'm sorry, mcfly, go ahead, damn.

Speaker 4:

I know he's mic number four, but you ain't got to treat him like that.

Speaker 3:

Oh, and then you're going to rub the mic. Faux shit in.

Speaker 4:

I let him slide. Last week episode. I didn't say what I wanted to say. Ouch, ouch.

Speaker 2:

I know there were a lot of times in childhood that I realized I had to grow up fast and there were times like when my mom had me in St Louis and she got arrested and I had to walk home at four years old and I remember thinking this shit ain't normal, but it was. I felt fine and if you know what st louis is like, it ain't a place to feel like that, it's a very fucking hood place. And um, there was another time, uh, my sister was still getting to know her her father's side, uh, because my sister had a different father but he died before she was born. Um, so she was trying to get to know her other siblings from his side and I remember hanging out with her and seeing shit like I was some projects that her her family was was was hanging out at or living in, and some random girl thought she was some guy, that or some girl that was fucking with her man or something, and she came in wielding a knife and I remember they had to push the door to try to push the door closed and she's willing to knife and she stabbed my uh sister right at like below her hip and I remember I don't know, at that time I just it clicked to me. I was like I remember yelling out like stop messing with my sister. And when she realized it was a kid there, she pulled the knife away and took off.

Speaker 2:

But I remember in those instances I had to learn that I had to be strong, even in essence I felt like I had to be the man when my sister was being attacked and she's fucking 10 years older than me, but I'm at that time I'm like no fuck that Like you're messing with my sister. So it was like there's a lot of instances growing up where you just realize you've got to be strong than what you maybe needed to be or should be. But as growing up fucking fast and and realizing that the custody battles between the parents, they take the biggest toll on the kids, so that was, that was a kind of constant norm. So I never felt comfortable, uh, to just be a kid, until maybe I was uh, pushing towards teen and my dad kind of got a little bit more stability in california. But before that, yeah, it was always grow up fast because it's life don't stop never, I'll start on this side with you.

Speaker 3:

Um, what expectations did you believe that adulthood would be like? And I will say from like the preteen years?

Speaker 2:

my expectation or belief I had and it was funny is it was I always thought you know, you get a job, find a, a girl, date, eventually marry. That was the thing what I. That was funny because it wasn't at all a blueprint that I ever saw in life. So it was. It's interesting to see it and say that this way it should be like. But the expectation, the reality, was way different. But it yeah. In my life growing up it was oh, you know, you've made it. When you have a job and then you're able to be self sufficient and that's it. But past that, no, it was. That wasn't my reality. But that's what I expected about adult men y'all bitches we all nah, I'm playing you got balconies.

Speaker 3:

You never wanted bitches. You got exactly what you wanted, oh no. I did.

Speaker 4:

Those are oh all today, what you do, I think some of them apply. One thing I, one thing I did always want was kids. I always said I wanted kids and I just happened to be bonded with someone who wanted kids but didn't want kids to later in life. So I felt like all my good knees ears are gone good knees, yeah, yeah knees years are gone, fit knees. Yeah, the years are gone.

Speaker 2:

Those years are gone. Your lower back still here.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's still here.

Speaker 2:

At least you got that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah he gonna figure out how to make them knees work If she tell him she can bend over a damn balcony. That's what step ladders are for.

Speaker 4:

Oh so yeah, like my thing was like I figured I'd have some kids, married, wife house. You know, I always said I wanted to be a lawyer and I never understood why and then when I got older I said I only want that for the money, stress boy. Yeah and yeah. I just I thought it's sad that you said that I'm thinking about it. My life wouldn't what I thought my life would be. It's kind of like similar to what it is now. I mean, I have more money, but other than that, no.

Speaker 3:

It's not that far off.

Speaker 1:

Kevin, I don't know. I've had a lot of fucking weird expectations and some have come to fruition, some of them haven't. Like, I guess, the stages in life. I remember pretending to drive around like a little car and shit, playing fucking Crazy Bone no, I get it weird. But then I was at some point where I was like, oh shit, I got my own car and I'm driving around bumping crazy, boom, like hell, yeah. Like it felt like not an expectation on what adulthood would be, cause it's like who the fuck? I don't know. I wasn't thinking about shit like that as a kid. It was like I thought I was going to be a fucking engineer or the president and shit.

Speaker 1:

Like I thought engineer or the president and shit like I thought, yeah, I thought I was gonna be the president. Yeah, I believe that shit I did. It was a good school dude, probably not, but but um, I don't know. I always had an expectation of grandeur, I guess you would say, and I'm happy the way things have turned out. So, cause I look at the way things are with the way people have to live in certain aspects Say, I wanted to do entertainment at some point and I thought that's what it was going to be I'm like, did I really want that?

Speaker 1:

The way it looks at? Like, do I want it to go this way? Cause it's a slower route and it's like I can build up and do it this way, the right way, instead of just, oh, I'm gonna jump in and sign on this. You know what I mean. So it's a lot like mo said, it's a lot like right now, that's what he expected be able to like. I love my family, I love my house, I love everything I got and that's almost all I wanted. You know what I mean. So I don't know if that was the expectation, but that's what.

Speaker 2:

I guess I set out to do that's funny Cause I didn't picture any of that for me. What the? I just thought it was work Like, yeah, I didn't think, oh, a house, kids, any of that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was in my head. It was like a motherfucking 32 bedroom house and then I'm like nigga who the? Fuck is going to clean that.

Speaker 2:

Let's see that electric bill like but yeah, I get it's.

Speaker 1:

you're in that environment like I've never been, but I know motherfuckers, st Louis, and you're like, oh, nigga like but I did always.

Speaker 4:

I did always want a marriage to kind of model after what I saw with my grandparents and. I knew like. That's the one thing. The one thing I give my, my biological parents for is that you. They taught me exactly what I didn't want to do and what I didn't want, so they taught me a lesson in a sense mine did too mine taught me both to be honest.

Speaker 2:

I just stopped fucking. Tv ruined my belief on shit. I used to think certain things were based on like relationships, based on television shows. I'm like, oh, so it's supposed to be like that. No that was what cause. That was the only thing example I had. My dad wasn't um, he did a lot of fucking. Oh he wasn't really on this relationship tip. The only examples I had was television brady bunch nah I'm talking like it's like family matters and shit that was a great show, great show it's back it's back where on netflix.

Speaker 3:

Huh, I'll be watching that when I get home what about you?

Speaker 3:

oh, what about me? My life don't look a goddamn thing like how I thought it was going to look. Not a one motherfucking thing. Shit is ghetto. It doesn't look like I wanted to be a mom with kids and I think I essentially wanted to build the family I didn't have as a kid, like I wanted to have a two parent household with children and we do things together and you know, and it didn't turn out that way, I got Hayden's fucking daddy Calm down.

Speaker 2:

Demotion we can relate.

Speaker 3:

Who don't listen to a motherfucking daddy?

Speaker 4:

See, you said, y'all don't like four. Two.

Speaker 2:

Fo.

Speaker 3:

Mike Fo Hay. Oh Mike, fucking daddy. Yeah, I wanted to be a parent. Still, may I'd be thinking about adoption here and there.

Speaker 4:

I got one with my baby.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, you know it. Just it didn't turn out how I thought it was gonna be, but I think I was looking at it more of a, not what I actually thought adulthood was like, but more than what I needed in that moment and what I could create as an adult. Yeah, but all in all, I have been blessed. Um, I've never been without a like really more than a moment without a job, without money, without roof over my head. I've always been able to maintain myself. So I mean, I'm gonna post your cash app on the page and see can we get somebody to bless it, because it's not gonna be me baby, so you're gonna have to go ahead.

Speaker 4:

I don't have a cash app. I just said that you don't.

Speaker 3:

Oh you sure the hell don't. That's very true, yeah, okay. Um, so how do you handle the pressures of being the strong one, and what happens when you're not the strong one? I cry. Are you being serious?

Speaker 4:

yeah, I cry it's good for the soul it is. It is um and then I wipe my face away and look myself in the mirror and say, nigga, do you know what you gotta do?

Speaker 3:

I, like most, most women, get back to work I don't know what the fuck it feels like to not be the strong one. I have no idea. I probably would lose my mind if I didn't have to be the strong one.

Speaker 4:

I don't know what that's like, I think I think it's harder for my wife when I think about it, cause now it's like with me being the strong one.

Speaker 4:

She has to be strong for me, because the way our, our marriage relationship is set up is like it's kind of like that shirt on the wolf, uh, on the woodrope, or like you got. You gotta be careful what you say to a man, because if, if I see my wife cry, I'm going to cry, and when I find out who's the reason behind her crying, I have nothing but rage and anger for you, we can discuss what happened later, but you're going to have to get your ass kicked first. So I do think she struggles with being the strong one for the strong one, because I think she struggles with being strong in a different way. As far as she I, she really does try to not overwhelm my plate because she knows I already stack it high myself. So it might, it might not be no better, it is no, I get it, I get it yeah, but it sucks being a strong woman.

Speaker 3:

It does.

Speaker 4:

Can't take no days off.

Speaker 3:

You sure the fuck can't.

Speaker 1:

Hey Kim, Do you want the mushrooms? Again, you just got to ignore that shit. Just turn it off, fuck them. Got to give yourself a day.

Speaker 4:

Every 28 days that mortgage is due.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, you can't slip, you can't, you can't slip, you can't like. But you get a little moment you gotta give yourself a moment 28 days?

Speaker 1:

um, I don't know, man. Sometimes it's nice, though, to know the outcome of things, so I guess that's what helps. Like you get the reassurance from shit when people let you know, hey, thanks for that, or I'm glad you was there for that, or hey, you know what I mean. Like the reassurance makes it better. What was this? This little kid, both of them go inside girls. So this little kid, both of them Go inside girls. So I don't know. I think it's just. I find a way, like I put the misters in the backyard, and that's sometimes my little getaway. Lean back, yeah, I got to get a recording sign. Lean back, yeah, I gotta get a recording sign. And then, yeah, that's the way to do it. Find little ways, big fly.

Speaker 2:

I think writing helps me a lot and I often write. I probably haven't recorded most of it, but I like to write and it helps me kind of get out of my head that makes sense.

Speaker 3:

And let me say this about about women who are strong, um, who are strong in a leadership, leadership position. I don't know how not to be strong. So, when it's not that no man has ever tried to be the strength, I just the one relationship I had where the man did try to to be the leader, I was so, um, consumed with leading because I have done it for so long I didn't know how to step back because he because he, literally I did date someone prior to hayes daddy that he was he was a cold ass leader, like I mean, like he had a plan. It included me. I didn't want to do it because I didn't, it wasn't my plan looking back how's that?

Speaker 3:

um, I feel real foolish for those, for those mistakes and and not at least hearing him out and trying it the way that he. He wanted to do it because he had a. He had such a phenomenal plan that he went forth and did his plan and he is in a very successful a situation now, because is he a millionaire? He's not a millionaire, but he's doing real, real good. Oh, that's for sure.

Speaker 4:

Real, real, real, real good it sounds like to me, is that you suffer from the fact that you could never depend on anyone and you've always had to depend on yourself. So the thought of depending on someone else, oh, we're not gonna talk about that.

Speaker 3:

I got on mascara it's frightening yeah, it is. No, that's the truth, that's the truth. And then what I.

Speaker 4:

You can't overcome that unless you trust. That's the hard part.

Speaker 3:

I have to be able to be comfortable trusting the person.

Speaker 4:

I'm saying that's the hard part.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but what I'm saying is so, looking back in hindsight, I can see where had had I followed that, that other man who got the same name as hayden's daddy, by the way. It's crazy, uh, I probably it would have been the right thing to do, but I couldn't follow hayden's daddy. That way he's going to drag me to hell.

Speaker 4:

I can't speak to that. It's the truth.

Speaker 3:

It's the truth. So I'm going to work on that before I be too too committed anywhere else, because, who knows, the next situation God puts me in may be somebody who has that type of ability to be able to lead, and I'm going to have to be able to shut the fuck up a little bit. And I'm going to have to be able to shut the fuck up a little bit, and I'm going to have to shut your ass up, damn it. I'm going to have to. I'm going to have to be better at that Cause.

Speaker 3:

I'm not good at it right now.

Speaker 2:

Accountability.

Speaker 4:

You acknowledge that. So it's, it's, you're starting.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I suck at that, I'm not. You acknowledge that, so it's, it's you're starting. Yeah, I suck at that, I'm not, but, but I'm, I'm. There's no shame to my mom. She did a great job, but I was raised by a single mom. So I think this is the narrative. With a lot of women that were raised by a single mom, we're getting told you don't, don't rely on a nigga, you don't need a nigga for nothing. In reality, we need each other and we need to be you, you know gentle with each other.

Speaker 4:

I didn't learn that. You know we talked about that Huh. My wife and I talked about that, because she was raised by a single mom and I was raised in a two parent and so I had to. There was a. We had a lot of going back and forth. I was like, look here, that shit that you was raised on ain't how it's supposed to be.

Speaker 3:

No, care that that shit that you was raised on ain't how it's supposed to be. No, no, it's really not. It's, it's unhealthy, it's unhealthy. Um, send me that. If you did, you was it on tape.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't know okay, if you come across it, I would love to see that, because I don't think I think single mom households in. In a lot of cases we fuck some of these women up real bad. So that's just my, my little little synth. Um, let's see. And have you ever felt like you had to shrink yourself to fit in or to survive?

Speaker 3:

yes, all the time or even succeed, oh yeah um yeah, I think I felt like I had to shrink myself most of my life. That's why I come so big now oh I heard it too.

Speaker 4:

I heard it too I heard it too, I heard it too oh, damn it she said that moose look will be permed oh man, that's crazy.

Speaker 4:

Um, I would say, like I said I I went through a time in my life where I always did feel alone because I was essentially raised like an only child, even though I had all these brothers and sisters right Once I was adopted by my grandparents and I identify how that kind of made me want to fit in, to have friends.

Speaker 4:

So I didn't feel like I was alone and a lot of times I would suppress who I was to fit in. I would suppress who I was to fit in and when I got out of that, that's when I started to really understand who I was and what I was capable of, and actually it was for the better of me. That's why, when I had said that message mixed by I can relate to that because I used to do shit like that I would try to fit in. I didn't want to ruffle any feathers, I just wanted to be included and as a kid, that's really all you want. You just want to be included. But I had to learn in adulthood that I'm not going to lower myself to make someone else feel better. So I just find my circle that can handle my personality and my potential and heavy on the potential.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I, yeah, I've been there many a time in my life, cause, uh, it was always feeling like when I was myself, the people looked at me sideways and then so, like you said, you just want to fit in and so you start minimizing who you are to please or to just be accepted, and eventually you hit a point in that age where you realize that if they can't be around you being yourself, then they're not for you.

Speaker 3:

I used to do stupid ass shit when I was young to fit in like extremely stupid shit, just to be a part, just to fit in yeah you used to yeah, used to. I'm not doing a motherfucking thing to fit in with these dudes you ain't.

Speaker 1:

I keep telling y'all I'm not shit y'all don't believe me what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

I don't do a motherfucking thing to fit in with these dudes.

Speaker 4:

You know you tell y'all I'm not shit. Y'all don't believe me, I don't do a motherfucking thing to fit in with these bitches.

Speaker 3:

And and how was I fitting in? I'm completely opposite than any of the females that I run with. Any of the females I'm in a circle with. Completely opposite doesn't make one of us better than the other. We all dope females, but I'm completely different than all of them. I don't try to fit in with none of them. I will I learn from them, and will I educate them absolutely, but do I try to fit in with them?

Speaker 1:

no, I think um, I don't know if I minimize myself to fit in, like I always just in myself. I feel like I minimize myself, I don't know why. Actually, I think it's because I'm not, you're not getting a different person, like when you get me out, you know what I mean. Fuck you laughing at shit.

Speaker 4:

In my head I said this nigga, suck that tooth one more time one, two go to the gap.

Speaker 3:

I hate you get your friend, get, get, get your frame McFly.

Speaker 4:

I can't tell y'all any shit, my brain, just my brain. Like I was, look my cousin. Environment was very hostile. You had to be ready at all times to defend yourself at work.

Speaker 1:

I know, I appreciate it. I don't need to be sucking my teeth in the mic. I think, I don't know, I think my minimization of myself, ah, it comes from not fitting in, just, uh, fear of not, I guess, achieving what I um shut out, I don't know the.

Speaker 4:

The cold part is in hindsight. I really I kicked myself because I realized how many years I missed out on exploring things I actually liked or was into, because the people I wanted to be around wasn't so I would just suppress my interests to try to fit in, and I shouldn't have did that shit at all.

Speaker 1:

I've done that. Yeah, that's true. We've definitely done that.

Speaker 3:

Everybody answered.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

When did you realize that no one was coming to save you? I think I always knew.

Speaker 1:

What's that mean? Like what do you mean? No one's coming to save you.

Speaker 3:

In general, no one's coming to save you, it's just you against you.

Speaker 4:

See, I don't believe that coming to save you it's just you against you. See, I don't believe that, because I believe I have someone that will save me.

Speaker 3:

Well, I haven't seen it in my life, so I don't think anybody.

Speaker 4:

My thing is I have to allow her to save me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's why I was asking like what do you mean? That was deep.

Speaker 4:

That's my problem. My problem is I allow her to come in and be a safe space. She's more than willing to.

Speaker 2:

Five.

Speaker 3:

Five, what Five.

Speaker 2:

That's the one I realized. No one's coming to save me.

Speaker 3:

Oh man damn so you just get strong yeah, no, I agree, you just you get strong are you sure?

Speaker 4:

and?

Speaker 3:

we don't want you to say what you thought. Go ahead, kevin, because I'm tired of him. He's right here nothing.

Speaker 1:

It's almost the same as Mo in that one. I uh, yeah, I think I'm there with and I have that conversation when I get in my modes. Uh, it's like, well, you gotta tell me shit. Like I'm not a mind reader, I can't just know. That's how you feel with stuff or this is what you're going through. So it's like the allowance is the part I gotta work on because I have someone there. I have these kids fuck out of here. They won't let that shit. They see daddy in a certain space or anything. It's nuts how they respond to stuff.

Speaker 4:

Isn't it kind of weird how your child will say something to you at the right moment to kind of get you back on track? You're like where the hell did this come from?

Speaker 1:

Them niggas made me cry with some of this shit.

Speaker 3:

They say, well, I'm like oh, I don't have children but hating gets me Told you, andreas.

Speaker 2:

The one day I was pissed off playing 2K, he said Dad, just do what you tell us, just walk away from a little bit, come back. I said, god, don't use my advice on me.

Speaker 4:

At least you know you're listening.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, at least you know you're listening. Yeah, hayden says the most profound things to be such a little human and it like trips me out to hear him.

Speaker 4:

I'm like you came from that mama it's it's, I think, with kids it's like it's it's you know that it's just them being honest. It's like there's nothing behind it, it's just like you're not a boy like cause. Sometimes you're like why don't you just do this?

Speaker 3:

I'm like damn why didn't I see that?

Speaker 3:

I'm supposed to be the goddamn adult like am I, hayden, been here before, though, like you can convince me that this is not his like second, second trip maybe? Maybe like he'd been here, like he'd say shit and I'd just be like, huh, you smart niggas, that crazy, god damn, yeah, he's smart. Like it, during one of my miscarriages and we had hit it from hitting, but he knew how, I don't know he knew. He told me like don't worry about it, like you probably just need to adopt a baby first, and then, when you adopt a baby, you gotta give us our own Castro. And I'm like who, he's 10 like, who thinks about that? Like, but he, he, literally that's what his thought process was and he got more sense than you.

Speaker 3:

Uh, excuse me uh, yeah, no oh my god, you take the fuck out of me I ate today you know what, and I'll take that.

Speaker 3:

He probably does have more sense to me. I tell people all the time in a room full of people Hayden is the smartest nigga in there, so he might he probably does have have more sense to me. He legitimately is. Okay, sit up in there with Hayden while he talk to you in 50 different damn languages and see how the fuck that he can read, write and speak, that he's self-taught in and we gonna see who the smartest nigga in the room is challenge accepted?

Speaker 3:

okay, okay. What's the cost been of you be always being the responsible? I'm gonna start over here because I'm tired of him talking. Uh, I'm sorry. What was the question? What is the cost been on you for always being the responsible one?

Speaker 2:

the cost has honestly been no one checking on me to make sure that I'm able to handle everything that's thrown at me. So, instead of it like yeah, he's like oh, yeah, he usually got it, but at some point it does, where you, you start to wear thin and you start to fucking get exhausted and then at some point, no one, it's just an assumption, oh, he got it he's fine with it.

Speaker 2:

He could take care of it. You don't realize it. At some point you need to say you good please check on your strong friends.

Speaker 3:

You good like, do you, do you?

Speaker 2:

still got it? Do you need some? They're gonna ask you if you good, please check on your strong friends. You good like? Do you? Do? You still got it? Do you need some?

Speaker 4:

nigga, I asked you if you good all the time I'm not talking about that shit.

Speaker 2:

I'm talking about shit I can't even talk to you about, like it's just.

Speaker 4:

But when I say you good, I'm talking about overall. Do you good now, whether you choose to share it, because sometimes I do share it with you, but nigga you also don't like I also don't like being judged either. I don't judge.

Speaker 2:

You judge, nigga, I do. You're right, so like I give you enough information to not have to hear the judging part.

Speaker 4:

Just say judge free, I won't judge you. I'll give you an honest answer.

Speaker 2:

It's impossible. Nigga, I've known you too long. I know you no trust me, it works.

Speaker 4:

My wife and I, we practice it. It works so you need a.

Speaker 3:

I listen and I don't judge, friend.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, but I don't think they exist.

Speaker 1:

Kevin, don't judge. I was going to say he's judging.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't think that exists. They just won't tell you.

Speaker 3:

Kevin, Kevin ain't judging nobody.

Speaker 2:

I've talked to Kevin about certain things and I can tell, like, when I, when I, when I hit those points, Kevin know when I'm coming to him. It must be something to because like.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, I know, I don't have that now. I think I've gotten better at just nah that's important yeah hey, it's not, it's not me, that's not my responsibility. Like the shit at home. Yeah, that's I. I made that like this is the shit I chose. Like the other shit is like nah, nigga I didn't that ain't on me what's the question?

Speaker 3:

it's what has the the cost been of you being the responsible one all the time?

Speaker 4:

yeah, I can't, I don't know. I don't know if I could have a cost, I think. I think the biggest cost is my sleep and how much I stress over making sure I fulfill the promises I have made.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Breaking up out of sleep.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's it. I understand that it doesn't matter how much my wife tries to reassure me or how well things are going. Even if I know I'm good this week and next week, well, I'm thinking about three weeks from now. That's how it goes. Now. What do I need to do to make sure I'm good in three weeks? And it never stopped and my wife goes I don't know how, just live it. I said I can't live. I said, as who I am, as your husband and as the father of that beautiful child, I can't think in the moment Because I got to make sure that you're good tomorrow.

Speaker 4:

And then the day after that and the day after that. So just because you're good today don't mean I can just relax. No, I got to make sure you're good until I'm not, even when I'm not here when I'm not breathing, I gotta make sure you're good. That's, yeah, that's a constant it's a it's a hard switch to switch off. So when I get my two or three hours to myself, which is mostly in the gym, and the switch that shit off, let me have this.

Speaker 2:

Let me have this because when I walk out, this motherfucker, I'm thinking about how the fuck I'm finna pay this mortgage in 28 days again yeah, remember we had that talk when we were hooping um, when I told you I was like shit, I had to come out of pocket for something unexpected, right then and I was like fuck. I was like, yeah, I have to that the money to do it. But it was just now. I gotta think about, yeah, how to recover from yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I just I took that question because I don't equate things in the house where I'm like that's just I don't that's not just life yeah, that's shit that I don't know. I feel like I put that, but I took that as outside shit where it's like trying to put everything on me but even like the outside shit, kind of like that's where I'm like to speak to that mind I've only accepted outside shit that I that I rock for it.

Speaker 4:

So, like the podcast where me and my wife got going on my daughter's extracurriculars, it's shit that I rock with. If I don't rock with it or I feel like it's not beneficial to me or my family, I just like you say, I just say no.

Speaker 1:

I don't care how you feel yeah, I think that's what I, that's what I answered that way, because it was more of that's how I've.

Speaker 2:

I don't allow the things that ain't supposed to be there be there there's a reason why certain people, uh that we've had uh interaction with stop asking me shit, because at some point they know I'm like.

Speaker 4:

I just give a look like in this, but it it's like it. It's like I've constructed my life to a point to where, like we're talking earlier, I have the things I asked for. I have my wife, I have my child. I asked for these things. They are my responsibility and I take full responsibility and I take it seriously. And because I take that seriously, I am willing to forsake all others for my family. And once you understand, once you understand that about me, you understand how I move, because if it's not beneficial to myself or in my family, even if it's beneficial to me but not beneficial for my family, I'm not going to do it Because I'm willing to sacrifice myself for them.

Speaker 2:

And that's what resonated with me about Dirty Birdie, when he said that like there's certain things that I'm not willing to cross if it means hurting yeah their well-being like. So as me breaking it like when I had that talk to you that same day, I remember I went to sleep. I woke up at two or three in the morning thinking about how the fuck I'm gonna pay this what the fuck I'm gonna do over here.

Speaker 2:

How do I move that Like, and it was like go to sleep, I can't go to sleep. My brain's, like, it's active, it's ready to go, like, so it's thinking about what moves I got to make to make sure I recover back and it's. But that shit's like a revolving door of constant how, how, how. So, like everything else I don't have, I don't hesitate to say no to, because I understand, like this shit, like you said, I signed up for it, so like I can't just I can't cut that off.

Speaker 1:

I stress, when it's uh, when, when it's office hours, oh yeah. I can't Well yeah, I'm like I'll try to plan it, but then, like there's certain things, like if it's a stressful situation, I'll be like well, I could find the solution in my head and think it, but I'm like nigga, I can't do nothing about it right now. I can't, Honestly. I could try to call, but I'm like, okay, take a break, Regroup.

Speaker 2:

I guess that's just part of the tools. Have you ever had a situation where you plowed it out in your mind like, oh, I'm about to do this and I'm going there, and you have it all planned in your mind. But when I get in there and I'm walking here, I'm going to have this, I had meetings at work or whatever and you go in there and nothing goes as what you said.

Speaker 2:

Even worse, they kind of just go okay, nigga, I planned this shit and now you're just okaying me. What the fuck? No, you're going to listen to this motherfucking speech.

Speaker 4:

I'm finna get these thoughts off. You finna hear me, motherfucker.

Speaker 2:

You'll just fucking comply, fuck.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. I think that's the wind. Oh no, that's. That's a child. Yeah, it's cool, you push him.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's like, cause, like, even like, even like. I understand when I, when I, when I joke and clown about the gymnastics. Yeah, I don't like paying them, but I, I like, I love the smile, I love the passion that she has when she does it and I it's part of my job as her father is to allow her to go so deep into her passions until she's no longer passionate about it. I want her childhood to be better than mine in a sense, to where she gets to be who she is every day. She's not worrying about how she's going to eat. She's not worried about who's going to cook. She's not worried about um is, is. Is mommy going to be up when you get home or is she gonna be in her room with the door locked, type shit? She's not worried about shit like that. She's worried about. She's literally just worried about me to get my child only worry about when the next time she gonna be able to get a snack that's often, that's yeah that's how I know our travels, or something yeah, you know.

Speaker 4:

So it's like yeah, I mean, I there's many times, well, door, door's been closed for six hours. I know what's going on. Yeah, like when she sleeps at all she'll come out and come downstairs, like I know, I know what's happening, like, oh damn, where's my nintendo?

Speaker 4:

oh okay, yeah, like you know, like you know what I'm saying, but that's not. That's not the childhood I'm trying to have, that's not the child I'm trying to give her. So, like I said I will, I will sacrifice everything for myself. I will sacrifice my truck, I will sacrifice, uh, every, pretty much everything but the gym.

Speaker 1:

What trip exactly exactly?

Speaker 2:

right. I say it's always on the horizon, but I'm a silver lining because I I told you nigga when when you, when you text me that shit, I said, shit, you could flip that shit to a tundra quick.

Speaker 4:

So it's like anyway it's like, yeah, it's so, it's like it's it's part of my responsibility that I, I take, I'm, I am accountable for that I'm, regardless of how she sees her childhood 18 years from now, I'm responsible for it, for the role I play.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I don't really want to answer this question, so we're going to go to the next one.

Speaker 4:

Oh, here we go?

Speaker 3:

I mean because I don't really, I don't have a family. I have Hayden's daddy.

Speaker 4:

You have family.

Speaker 3:

You have family, you have.

Speaker 4:

Dominique daddy, yeah family and hated, yeah family. You have dominique what did it?

Speaker 1:

was it family or was it responsibility?

Speaker 2:

what it cost you yeah no, we'll talk about that then don't talk about it.

Speaker 4:

Thank you very much, um.

Speaker 3:

We're gonna talk about this later part of your healing oh god, what would you do differently if there were no fear involved?

Speaker 2:

No fear like meaning towards what?

Speaker 3:

Just involved in general, like if you could just do something about your life differently, without any fear of judgment, fear of failing.

Speaker 2:

I'd try to be an R&B singer.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, can you sing? No, oh, my God and b singer.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, can you say no? Oh my god, if I didn't have the fear, I'd jam for the fucking try. You'd be like chris brown. He ain't chris brown in it, but he, uh he, he's trying his heart out. Oh man, I wouldn't even brought up chris brown, but I'm saying I'll be trying to dance and flip and I'll probably end up in the whole body cast. But if I had no fear, that's what I'd be doing, because I said man R&B singers bro.

Speaker 3:

I think I'd be more trusting if I didn't have any fear, because I don't trust these things.

Speaker 4:

Still don't trust me.

Speaker 3:

I don't trust everybody. I trust some people there, people, so few people I trust, but it's not a whole lot of them. I said me, I don't say people. Yeah, I trust you don't but I do trust you. You know why? Because I can count on you to not be shit.

Speaker 3:

I already know that you can't I already know, yeah, I trust the three, I trust all three of you that you can't, and a few other people but, um, but to like in, in, in like love situations, it take a lot for me to like completely immerse myself in, trusting I'd be like hell, no, you doing something there. You, finna, do something, that's finna. And it's not even necessarily cheating a lot. I've not had a lot of people cheat on me. It'd be the. I've only had females cheat on me. I've never had a man cheat on me.

Speaker 3:

So message yeah, I never. I never had. No, it's the bitches I never had. No, no, man, uh, I've never had a man cheat on me. Have I had a man? Uh, lie, absolutely. Have I had one that maybe he thought he was gonna cheat, but I probably have picked up on it before he was able to, yes, but to get to the act of cheating on me, no. So I don't be worried about those type of things. I don't trust shit like you're gonna have your bill money on time, or you're going I can come to you if I don't have it, or you, you know, I'm saying I, I don't trust those type of things. So I think, if, if I could be fearless and and trust those type of things, that's probably what I would do I feel that, I do feel that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I just know I, even if I was fearless, that would be the shit I really wouldn't trust, like that I double down on that shit because I don't trust people with shit like that period so I don't think I I can't see a life where I feel like financially safe or like supported, or like completely, and I don't have to see it, to achieve it. I don't know, I don't know, I might not achieve that because I can't. I cannot see that. That don't even seem like something that I don't know.

Speaker 1:

We see, I'm gonna have to give you another session kevin, uh, I think I would probably leap, uh, without the fear of falling, or you're gonna draw my r&b group. I mean fuck it are you guys?

Speaker 4:

are you guys grasping for air? Yeah oh, I'm in there too, we have to.

Speaker 3:

We're gonna have to do the drew hill dance, the the drew hills oh, ain't nobody finna do the drew hills and pop babies kneecaps to me 100, tell me stop doing your kids like that yeah just trusting my ability yeah, that's what I would um, if I had no fear right now, I would just make the content.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Okay, okay, hey, and you're, I've been seeing you make like posts where like it's like a saying, and then you yeah, my lethal thoughts. I like those. I've been sharing them. I like those. Yeah, I haven't made one in a while. They're good. You should do those.

Speaker 2:

Those are good. I would just make the content Only fans. Here I come.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my God.

Speaker 4:

Just don't show your face. You make me feel weak.

Speaker 3:

Your braider is so descriptive with the way she does your hair, I'd be like that. Look like me flying top of his damn head. Is that me flying you just a?

Speaker 2:

good vpn yes, I said see, that ain't even a high stroke this is the last question, guys.

Speaker 3:

Do you guys think we ever stop being in the pursuit of who we actually are like? Do you think we ever really find ourselves? Completely? No, because I feel like we're always evolving we're always changing I agree so you never really find yourself.

Speaker 4:

You, just you. You constantly find plateaus of where you're comfortable and you sit there until you get a drive for more growth yeah, I agree, I 100 agree.

Speaker 3:

Okay, sure, sure, sure. Can I say listen?

Speaker 1:

I just I don't know, I kind of agree and I kind of don't because like some of it is like I feel like you do have a core of who you are and then there's things that evolve in that around it.

Speaker 4:

But yes, yes, that's why I say if a small part is changing, kevin, you're still changing that's why I didn't want to talk to you.

Speaker 3:

We was gonna go into semantic land I'm not gonna let y'all make fly dizzy, did you agree? I?

Speaker 2:

agree, and it made me think about what andreas is always, because he always tells me about, um, every fucking anime character and he always says that they had their awakening. I was like, yeah, so I haven't hit my awakening points.

Speaker 3:

Yes, that's a great way to think.

Speaker 4:

That's a smart little boy depending on the anime, that could be a good or a bad thing yeah, yeah, that's true, I've never seen anime I have. You know, you haven't seen moondog I've probably seen some some anime.

Speaker 3:

I don't know what. Any of it's called.

Speaker 2:

John loves anime, so I'm I've seen him see it and he'll tell me about different versions of different characters and I'm like what's up? So I haven't hit my awakening point, yet that's all josh johnson.

Speaker 1:

He's talking about the kids. He was like we went to school with a kid who liked anime but he thought it was like real life and he let it affect things like you know, like the way he runs, and I was like, oh, I know exactly what he's talking about the niggas that the naruto run yeah this has been another episode of the heavyweight podcast.

Speaker 3:

Yay, make sure you like. Subscribe. Share comment all that shit until next time real quick, real quick.

Speaker 2:

Uh, shout out to clinton marcos. He was a dude I I worked with at ups. He he said something to me that that meant a lot to me, so I gotta flex real quick. He said he really, really liked seeing me in my element of being a dad and it made him happy.

Speaker 3:

So that's what's up oh, thank, thank you, that was nice.

Speaker 2:

It meant a lot to me, so shout out to Clinton Go Clinton. I'm going to keep that and appreciate you.

Speaker 3:

That was sweet of him. Go Clinton, Alright Clinton. Well, thank you guys all for watching. We appreciate your support. Until next time.

Speaker 2:

Peace.

Speaker 1:

That's a wrap, y'all. That's all she wrote, so make sure you click like subscribe. Tune in. We're on the Austrian platform, so until next time we'll hide at you.

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