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This episode is a masterclass in grit, growth, and god-level resilience. Navy Chief, father, and powerlifter William Alexander shares his journey from paralysis to purpose. His story will light a fire under anyone pushing through physical or mental setbacks.

William talks weight loss, mental health, racial dynamics in the Navy, and building a legacy through his podcast and clothing line. Don’t miss this one.

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Speaker 1:

say you're in the trenches with different nationalities, different backgrounds, you start saying some offlandish stuff that normal civilian people wouldn't hear. They'd be like they want to beat you up for it, but for us it's normal, it's like we don't know because we're out to sea or worse, in the camaraderie. We don't build such a camaraderie. We're saying some irregular shit and you would just we would laugh about, about.

Speaker 2:

But y'all be like yo, like y'all really like, y'all really talk like that's a tough one yeah, like to the civilian, yeah, yeah, there's some things and stuff and they're like I'm like I'll probably get fired yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like you just get on the civilians, you can't just walk up and cut somebody out because you're mad, because you're gonna get you get rid of her fire, like that's a normal thing in the military.

Speaker 2:

I'm heavy structure. I'm hung low. If I pull my shit out, this whole room get dark shit, ie in this bitch love never resting on my lows.

Speaker 3:

The definition of a core when they stop questioning you more of the cavitation.

Speaker 4:

What's good? This is another rendition of talk yo shit. Now backstory on this one. Um, for a while now, uh, this man goes to my gym and I came across him on the story of our gym's Instagram and I was like, man, this dude gets it in, he's a beast. So every time I would see him in the gym I'm like damn, he's beasting.

Speaker 4:

And uh, after a while I would, since maurice is also on a health journey and a workout journey uh, I would hit up maurice and be like, hey, man, there's this dude at the gym that be beasting. I said he kind of looks like a buff you, so I would call him buff mo. So every time I would see him I was like, damn, there goes, buff. Moment he getting it in again. And then it was one time I can't remember if it was 140 or 150 you asked for help with. Uh, you were like, hey, man, can you help me out? And I said, yeah, let me go, like you want a spot or something like cool. So I go to thinking I'm spotting, he goes. No, no, I'm on man, I just need you to help me lift him up on my knee so I can lift him up. I said, oh, I felt like a bitch in that moment.

Speaker 4:

And my mom I'm like, wait a minute, you don't need help with this like, and then he's like, yeah, go ahead and help me put it on my knee. So I'm lifting up and I'm struggling. I'm like, is he judging me? And um, so we uh, he gets the, the weights up and he just starts lifting them, just like, like, like it's nothing for him and I'm like my nigga, like I can't, I can't fathom this, this, this kind of strength. So, so, anyway, I see him in the gym and every time I see him he's beasting. I see him on Instagram he's beasting.

Speaker 4:

And then one day I'm hoping, and, and he comes into the courts and he goes, hey, man, like I'm trying to like possibly get on this path to doing podcasting, is it cool? But you know, if I'm a guest or come into your podcast, kind of feel like, when you run with, with the signs, uh, you end up in a situation where it's like it kind of fits perfectly because, um, to me, uh, what he, the path that he's on and the journey that he's on as also being a father, um, also being in the navy and having a career in the navy and trying to balance it all, being an active father on top of that, um, it just, it just made sense to me. So, um, he has this journey that he's on, he's a dope individual. Every time I chop it up, when I was always on a positive vibe.

Speaker 4:

Um, ladies and gentlemen, I give to you the one I'm gonna. You want me to just call you will, but I kind of feel like it's hey, just, it's just Will. It's like no, william Dennis, william Dennis, alexander, like I WD, I'm going to WD40, 140, 150. You know what I'm saying like. So, ladies and gentlemen, we give to you, I'm going to call him WD40. Fuck it, yeah what's happening.

Speaker 2:

I mean I told the man he was there for midnight hey yeah, I know right, they're going to look at you, they're definitely going to find you now.

Speaker 1:

How are you doing this morning? I'm good, blessed to be here. I appreciate y'all Humble beginnings, so thank you. Thank you for having me Thanks for being here.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, thank you for being here.

Speaker 4:

So I know, the other day you told me that a couple years ago.

Speaker 1:

This was when the light hit. What, what was it and what flipped that switch and you taking your health and workouts so seriously like you do. So a little backstory. I've kind of always been lifted. I've been lifting since I was 16, 14, 16 years old. Due to football in high school we had to do the summer lifting program. So I've always worked out. Yeah, I I've always fluctuated in weight. My at one point in time I was 265. I cut down the weight, got down to two like 205. Um, but I hit my highest ever about three years ago. I got to 275. I look like a. I called myself the black Kirby, you know what.

Speaker 1:

I'm saying I was looking bad and um, I was like, yeah, I was strong and I, like I said I've always lifted. But I, dad, and um, I was like, yeah, I was strong and I, like I said I've always lifted, but I, you know, uh, I didn't really see myself because I was on the ship, I was underweight and I was just like we didn't have an adequate gym to my measure to to keep me where I wanted to be at. And I gave myself a lot of valid excuses. But yeah, when I seen that picture, when I I remember we pulled into a port we were in the middle east and I think I forgot what port we pulled into and I walked past the mirror, I was like, holy fuck, and then this was in me in transfer, coming back to the States and be back States with my family. I was like, as soon as I touched ground, I'm on the grind. So I lost.

Speaker 1:

In about eight months I had lost like 55 pounds and I hit a moment where I was like, oh, I'm kind of stuck. So I did a seven day fast. Uh, seven day water fast, cleared it up and then I dropped. I got down to back into a 208. And then this was all within last year and then I got hurt. Um, last year I had a ruptured herniated disc in my neck and I've kind of been uh rebuilding, lost all functionality to the lower half of my body. I was actually at the gym right here on the elliptical. I didn't know what was going on and then my body just fucking gave out. Damn Fuck.

Speaker 5:

Oh my gosh, so yeah.

Speaker 1:

Long story short, I'm blessed, like I'm glad I'm able to luckily find out. They thought I had a stroke. I went to Menifee Hospital. They did a stroke test on me didn't find anything. So they sent me to a riverside community, did another stroke test didn't find anything. Then they did the mri and that's when they seen I had the rupture herniated disc in my neck, with next diagnosis.

Speaker 1:

So basically, the rupture herniated disc started growing through the membrane that protects your spinal cord and it was flattening my spinal cord and I fucking that that's what caused everything to. It's for me to lose everything. So, um, I had to. The doctor was like, yeah, you gotta have surgery. So they went through the front of my neck, um cut the cut that off and I got a stint in my uh, like a titanium plate in my neck, um, so that's what I'm saying. I'm blessed to be here again and be able to get back to doing what I was doing. Uh, but yeah, that like all that kind of took place in me. That's where it started, like the 275, and then that happened and I was like I'm going to come back stronger and better. So, yeah, that's what's up, man.

Speaker 5:

Shout out to God.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, that's wild. Wait, how tall are you?

Speaker 1:

5'6" 275?. Yeah, nigga, I was hey, hey, hey hey, nigga, hey I, you guys have a whole fat girl on the damn team Be quiet okay, thank you.

Speaker 2:

This is men discussing men.

Speaker 5:

I don't give a damn, you have a whole fat girl sitting up here. Be quiet, say it over there. I'm always going to be right here where I need to be.

Speaker 1:

Fuck gonna be right here where I need to be fuck. Uh, so what is legacy lives? Um, so it's kind of just something I've been playing with, I guess, more or less like it's not for me, it's for my son. So if I ever pass, my son could go on my instagram curve like that's my dad. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Like, um, I think mentally where I'm at with the gym a lot, I think a lot of young men and boys need it and they don't understand how much effect it is. And I'm not saying you need the gym, you need to be able to, you need to work out daily. It does something positive to your brain that is scientifically proven. That you need. And I, once I got to that point that I have to understand that I need the gym day, even if it's like the small things, going for a walk or something like.

Speaker 1:

If there's day Trust me, there's, no, there's days I'm like, fuck, I did not feel like going to the gym, like you, just don't feel like it. So I'm like, all right, let me at least go for a walk and I'll go for a walk and I'll see. Like you know, I have like the pull up bars, I go do a couple of stuff like that, but just having shoot clear a lot of shit and I just want legacy lifts, it's like I want my son's like okay, my dad did this daily, like if I ever pass that, that is there for him to be like, okay, dang, I want to surpass my dad. You know like right now my heaviest lifts bench, squat, deadlift. I did 1300 pounds what?

Speaker 2:

yeah, so you let's go win the bagel, yeah yeah, um, and I just surpassed.

Speaker 1:

I finally just surpassed. You know, I feel like, uh, I just surpassed my goal, one of my goal weights of deadlift. So, um, when I did my 1300 pound lift, I my max was 465 on deadlift. I finally hit 485 and this is also coming back after injury and like I was just happy to hit 485, I was like fuck. So now I'm like, okay, I gotta get hit 500. It's something I don't know something about. The, the delayed gratification of once you hit that like it does something to you mentally, physically and spiritually, like I finally fucking did it. It's just that small goal and it might not seem like much, but it's a lot for you as a person. People, I think people underachieve themselves a lot. Like even you guys having this podcast is fucking dope. Like I'm super appreciative of you guys having me on here, but like, don't underappreciate yourself, because this moment you put those negative thoughts in your head, you're going to always feed that to yourself and we're already fighting through negative thoughts that true, that's very true so very true.

Speaker 2:

How many so do you? Do you just lift the lift?

Speaker 1:

or do you power lift? Um, I was gonna, I did, did one, two, one power lifting competition, but it was through the military, um, and that's when I had my 1300 pound lift, but, um, I haven't competed, competed, okay, you know.

Speaker 2:

Um because I just asked my wife. My wife just started power lifting, like she's serious about it, like and she, she, she getting strong. You know, she called herself big bro join her, joint join her I don't power live. I live, but you know I'm dog the thing.

Speaker 1:

There's this guy I follow. He's like you got to be strong for your family and I was like. He's like think worst case scenario is something your house caught on fire and your family got hurt, can you carry your family on your back and carry them out the house?

Speaker 2:

I mean one and a half, but that's you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

And just following this dude and this dude's another brother and I was like that makes sense. So I kind of changed some of my lifting styles in a sense, Like I started doing this thing. They're called the Zercher squats. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Where you put the bar. Here it's like, basically, if you're like carrying somebody, so I started doing Zurcher Squatch, in sense that, like I'm thinking worst case scenario, if I have to pick up and carry my wife and my son, I'm able to do that. So I always put their weight on the bar when I'm doing Zurcher Squatch and I'll walk and sometimes I'll do Zurcher Walk.

Speaker 2:

So, man, I'm trying, I'm trying. Hey look, he said they could walk. Sometimes you gotta go, hey we gotta work together.

Speaker 1:

This is the thing that. This is the thing that's crazy that I've learned. When I mentally about people, you will go out like if you're moving, you like you don't even think about it, like well, that couch could be 300 pounds, but you won't know it's 300 pounds, but you're gonna pick it up and try and put on a truck no, I won't.

Speaker 2:

No, that's those things are done.

Speaker 1:

Oh well, I mean, unless you're hurt but, like, a lot of people have that same mentality. They go in the gym, they see the weight, like oh fuck, that's 100 pounds. Like that's heavy, like, and I'm like I don't think like that, I'm like it's just fucking weight is I'm either gonna I'm either gonna be able to come back and do it. I like that.

Speaker 2:

You got a better mentality than me, I got to get it, though it takes time.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't like I built this shit overnight. It was like a lot of fighting. You know what I mean. A lot of mental fighting and, just you know, having the words to encourage myself. You know I live by an old saying In football. Our coach gave us a mirror and on the mirror it said you're only as good as a man in the mirror. And I wrote that when I made chief. I wrote that in my, in my vessel. And like it's hard to look at yourself. You have to judge yourself every day. You got to be your biggest critic and sometimes it's hard to admit yourself like where you're actually fucking up. And it's easier to look yourself in the eyes and lie than this tell to tell yourself the truth.

Speaker 2:

It's funny. You said that, man, I've been like this last four months. I've been on this self-accountability shit and I'll be making myself cry. I'll be like you, fucking up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 4:

So how many years have you been in the name?

Speaker 1:

It'll be 20 years come September. So yeah, thank you for your service, thank you thank you for continued every shit.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's been a long time, man. So, as a father, how hard is it to balance your career, the gym and also being an active parent?

Speaker 1:

um, on a scale of one to ten, ten being, uh, the hardest, I would say it's probably about a seven, right? Because, uh, mind you, I live way out here in the ie, so I drive an hour and a half to work every day, and then coming back, it's two hours, depending on traffic, or two plus hours.

Speaker 1:

Shit, you go way out there, yeah yeah, I'm working, so um, and then when I get home he wants to hang out. He's the only child, so he sees that he wants to play, he wants to, you know, just be active, and then he's also in jujitsu. So I have to make sure I get home in time enough to try and take him down to jujitsu so he can have some discipline. And it's about a seven.

Speaker 1:

The thing I learned is with juggling is you're always going to have time. It's on you if you're going to make the time for yourself, right. So I've had to learn to make time for myself. So sometimes I'll you know I don't have to be to work till nine, but I'm like I can wake up at five, get out the house by six and still go get like a gym, go work out at the gym on base before I have to be at work, right, like you, there's always time, it's just depending on where you want to place your time at Right. And then, like there's sometimes like he'll get done with jujitsu and thank God, you know, powerhouse has a, has a daycare, so like I'll be like fuck, I haven't had another workout, or I'll go get another workout after his. So sometimes I do two days, depending on how I'm feeling. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, I mean it's about a seven. Like I'm not, it's not super high, but like, yeah, there are days where I'm like man, I do not want to do this. Today I'm like dog, can you just chill out? Like just daddy needs a break real quick, you know. But at the end of the day it's a blessing. You know, I have to remind myself it's a blessing just to have my son. Just a short story I almost lost my son and my wife when my son was born. So I have to remind myself, even though he's the only child, like I almost did not have the opportunity with him. So I have to keep reminding myself that daily. Like OK, he just wants to play with that you know what I mean, so.

Speaker 4:

So you already touched on it, but what does the gym do for you mentally, on top of the like, like the, the, the positive energy it sends?

Speaker 1:

It suppresses the negative thoughts A hundred percent, like a thousand percent. Um, when the the and it's sad, the days I don't want to go is when I have my best lifts, like the days where, like myself, talking to car, like you know, having that long drive to work, you have a lot of self-talk and you think about, like you know, what you want to do, all these other things I'm like you know, that's like my, my meditation, right, and it's crazy. Everybody's like how do you? You know, when you drive to work, what do you do? I was like I honestly I don't have the radio on, that car goes away and I just focus on the positive.

Speaker 4:

So what is your most embarrassing moment in the gym?

Speaker 1:

I don't care anymore because I'm older. I shit on myself.

Speaker 5:

Damn. Oh my God, that was not what I was, oh my God.

Speaker 1:

So, back in the early days when pre-workout used to have everything in it.

Speaker 2:

You got to explain it to me, I understand.

Speaker 1:

I would take my pre-workout and then go to the gym. One time it was my wife's cousin, javi. He was with me and I was like bro, I can't hold it. I got to go and as we stepped in the gym I thought I was good. I was about to run to the restroom. Nah, I didn't even make it to a lift yet. I was like that was back when Jack 3D and everything like all types of chemicals in it. It would just run through your body. But yeah, that was that's probably one of my most embarrassing moments in the gym.

Speaker 5:

Yikes.

Speaker 2:

That's hilarious because that was literally me yesterday. I was on the treadmill and I said, nope, it took off Because that free workout wasn't getting through.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so yeah, yeah, that's that prayer that Jesus is like. Just make it please today.

Speaker 2:

I said Lord, I got 100 feet. I literally grabbed my phone and left it in my bag. If it's not there when I get back, we're about to get back. We got to focus on this right now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but that happened probably like 10 years ago. Yeah, 10, 15 years ago. Yeah, 10, 15 years ago.

Speaker 2:

That's one of my greatest fears. Yeah, I feel like that you should probably, but I feel like that's up number one. That's one of my greatest fears, like doodling.

Speaker 4:

Hey man, you never. I was going to say like, like something like a hack squat yeah.

Speaker 1:

I've seen people where they be in the middle of a squat and they're like, thank God, like you see it straining through the fucking. Oh my God, I'd be like yo. I'm glad it was in me and it got on my shorts and I could make it home and change. But middle of a squat and you see it just juicing.

Speaker 5:

Like oh man, you've been home and changed and came back. Yeah, oh, that would have been it for me?

Speaker 1:

oh no, I wasn't. I was already locked in. I was like I'm just gonna shower, throw my shit away and get back to see I would have had a long talk in the shower like how you had on the car ride.

Speaker 2:

I'd be like damn, I just yeah, you know, at a different gym. Yeah, a different location. I would have went back to it because I got a camera, because did anybody see you?

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 5:

Did anybody see?

Speaker 1:

you? No, that's just like I said. I was walking in, I didn't get to check in, so it was like and Javi's like, what's going on? I was like, hey, we got to go back to that.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah what setbacks have you faced as a black man in the navy or even just trying to get healthy? Um?

Speaker 1:

all right. So in the navy, uh, you know, uh, growing up, I grew up in a small, but I grew up in apache junction, arizona.

Speaker 1:

I was one of probably like five black people lord apache junction yeah damn, he was out there yeah we was out there, you know my parents kept moving further for the way they were trying to buy a house and do their thing whatever. I'm not mad about that, um. So my mom always used to tell me she was like, hey, I don't want you and your brother to be racist like I don't fuck in my head. I'm like how black people, racist like we, we've been systemically beat up, all of our. You know so.

Speaker 1:

When I joined the navy and I went to the east coast and I'm around more black people, I actually have been criticized of my color because I wasn't black enough or I wasn't. I wasn't, you know, in the term, I wasn't niggin' I was like, in my eyes where I come from, I'm like, bro, like if we walking down the street, me and you both gonna get chased, so what the fuck does it matter? You know as, but I have been in positions also too with that and I'm not where. It was a struggle for me to make rank and it's not that I wasn't busting my ass to do what I do. I was like me and him do the same thing. If not, I do more. Why is he getting?

Speaker 2:

No, that's not your homie.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying. Why is he getting this over me? And I am going to say I'm in a rate that is predominantly white. I'm in a. I'm in. I'm in a very small community. It's called I'm a mime and um, we just made our first black master chief in the rate and the race been around for 30 plus years yeah, so um, it's.

Speaker 1:

You know, am I gonna say, is there still like hidden racism, all this stuff in the military or whatever? I don't know. I can't say that there officially is, but I've had moments where I was like this shit don't seem right. You know what I mean and I don't think it's fair. So you know there's also systems in play for all this stuff. So you know you can't make reports and all this stuff if you are feeling some type of way. But yeah, I happen for certain people and I'm like, I'm like yo, this dude does the same amount as me and how's he still getting more? So you know, you just kind of you got to cut your wins with your losses, like, at the end of the day, the way I look at it, um, I'm six, I'm fifth generation navy, I'm the first in my family to retire and put on khakis that's dope you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

So so well in, at least on the alexander household, like on my dad's, you know.

Speaker 2:

But I just think about racism in the military being and I'm not thinking in the ranking scale part of it. It's more like it seems more overt, like people are more willing to be out with it, whereas like into me, when I was doing that, it wasn't. I didn't give a fuck because I'm like, well, we're all being fucking racist.

Speaker 1:

so yeah, yeah, I mean you've there's certain you become immune to certain jokes because when you hear, start hearing another race say the same joke that you probably would have said, you're like what, what is this? Like you know what I mean. Like you know, look like gary owen, like I do, was in the navy, like some of the stuff he says. You're like that's definitely some Navy jokes. Like you're going to say you're in the trenches with different nationalities, different backgrounds. You start saying some offlandish stuff that normal civilian people wouldn't hear. They'd be like they want to beat you up for it, but for us it's normal. It's like we out to sea or we're in the camaraderie we done built such a camaraderie. We're saying some irregular shit and you just we would laugh about. But y'all be like yo, like y'all really like. Y'all really talk like that's a tough one yeah like to the civilian.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, there's some things, stuff, and they're like I'm like I'll probably get fired yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like you just get on the civilians. You can't just walk up and cut somebody out because you're mad, because you go get you get rid of her fire. Like that's a normal thing in the military. You know what I mean? Like if you're mad at somebody, they're gonna walk up to you and cuss you out, but you're like I still got a job yeah, and then at the end of the day, everybody still come together and then get what you had to get done yeah, that was the that was the coolest part to me, where I was like that motherfucker's racist.

Speaker 2:

I know it, but we gotta get this done.

Speaker 4:

You just yeah, so what?

Speaker 1:

projects or plans do you have in the works currently, right now? Well, right now, me and my boy are getting our podcast together. It's going to be called Two Grumpy Gills. Oh, I like that Based on like Navy type stuff, but just general, like how you guys are. Only thing is ours is probably going to be more virtual, because he's over in Bahrain right now. What was the name? Again Two Grumpy Gills, gills.

Speaker 2:

Like two fish, two Grumpy Gills.

Speaker 5:

He was going to say put the third gill.

Speaker 2:

There's a Grumpy Gil right here.

Speaker 4:

The last thing is gills.

Speaker 5:

Oh gotcha and that nigga be grumpy.

Speaker 2:

He was and that nigga be grumpy. I knew exactly where he was going. That's why I was looking at you like no nigga keep it pushing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that's the guy going like that. And then I'm trying to get my brand off, anchored and Goated Apparel, so I'm just trying to make it to CPO Pride Day.

Speaker 2:

What's the message behind that?

Speaker 1:

So Anchored by God, Goated by Life. That's what I thought it was.

Speaker 5:

Oh, I like that. I would buy a shirt right now. Do you have a website?

Speaker 1:

No, I just got my design down, so I'm trying to find a vendor to at least do my first prints. Motherfucker, you playing Navy games too, though Shut the fuck up, don't play with me, you playing.

Speaker 2:

Navy games too. They was too anchored and goaded by that. I know what the chief lock is about. That's smart, that's smart, hey man, that's a big demographic.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm saying. You got to play the game.

Speaker 2:

You tried to leave that out. I was like, nah, nigga, there's more to it.

Speaker 1:

Hey man, that's dope, I like it, I like it a lot, but yeah, that's what I got in order. And then retirement like, um, I'm like I have no regrets, anything about the military and all that. I'm not gonna speak bad about it or nothing, right, but you do get to a point where you're like yo, it's time for the other side, like, and I'm just at that point, like you know, I'm super humbled that I was able to put on khakis before I retire and do all these great things. But I'm ready to just be a dad you know what I mean or and be a husband and not have to like, worry about it. Somebody's gonna call me hey, man, like, when you're in the military, you have to understand you're gonna adult adults and that gets annoying after a while. You know what I mean. Like you really gonna have to adult adults, you know.

Speaker 1:

And uh, a lot of newer generation of kids are. It's different. This is the way I look at it. I have my own theory behind this. We have kids come in the military that are from the teen mom era. There were teens raising kids and so, like you know, we have to teach them certain things. And I remember one specific story that got me Like we had a kid that he thought washing clothes was just putting his clothes in the washer.

Speaker 2:

And then put them in the dryer and we're like why do you?

Speaker 1:

why do you still smell?

Speaker 1:

Because nobody Don't do this man, you know what I'm talking about. Like there are just certain things that I'm like I don't want to have to deal with these type of people. I have to tell them how to adult, because it's weird, yeah, it is like. So I'm just. But like, at the end of the day, wholeheartedly, you know there is pluses about the, the military and whole right like, you get your gi bill, you get your va loan, you can use that, all that stuff to rest your life. What do you do? 420? It's a stepping stone in life that a lot of people not a lot of people know about and they'll be like oh, I don't want to join the government, but I'm like, all right, we'll just do four years and then get a va loan the rest of your life. Get your, get your college degree the rest of your life. I'm nobody, nobody's telling you to do your whole lifetime, but if you get your four years, you're gonna have more than most americans got god damn right so, so des are you ready?

Speaker 4:

oh gosh, here we.

Speaker 5:

Okay, before you ask this question, and I become very irritated how do you not know that? How do you not even know that you prejudiced me? Man, I'm beginning to think that I am the only still fan. No, that's not true, I think you'll be surprised For the people who don't know. You just mentioned that you got to put on khakis. Can you explain what that is?

Speaker 1:

So there's two ways to put on CAC is you either go chief or you go officer? So I personally believe you got to be attracted in something that you want. I was either one to be a chief or I want to be a warrant officer, which is another type of officer. But you got to basically put on chief to make warrant Right. And I want to be a bosun, which is a bosun, which is an extended officer rate of the bosunate rating right. I love I'm a deck guy, I love working my hands, I like being outside and stuff like that, but putting on khakis. So I became a chief. So you basically there is no like hard pipeline saying this is how you become a chief is basically you try to achieve as much as possible and submit a packet Like first you got to take a test. If you pass the test you get your. You, they call it your your ticket to the dance, right. So once you pass a test, that's when you're able to submit a package basically saying these are all the things I've done to be able to put on khakis as a chief, right, and you submit it to the chief's board, they review and they basically say all right, hey, he has X, y and Z. All his evals say X, y and Z you can put on chief If you go the officer route.

Speaker 1:

There's different programs you can do to go the officer route. Some are pre-college. Some people you know you got a lot of guys that go to what's it called, not the Citadel the Navy College. They come out of the Navy College and become officer. But if you go enlisted, there's a bunch of you got State 21. There's programs you could submit to you know after, like, once you become first class, you take the chief's exam. It just makes you eligible to do an LDO board, which is limited duty officer Like. That's the two ways you can either put on cat cases, either via um, um, the Navy college, going to you know right after high school, going to Navy college and you come in as an officer um, or you can do a program. There's so many of them. Uh, like matter of fact, my um, my wife's cousin's husband, david, he just he Zoomed. He made HM1 like four years and then got picked up for officer program. So he's only been in the Navy like six years. He's already an officer.

Speaker 5:

Wow.

Speaker 4:

That's crazy.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it sounds like there's a lot that goes into it, so congratulations on that, thank you, thank you. Okay, I'm ready.

Speaker 4:

now we're going to see what you're gonna say you're right, oh, you're right here we go, I'm ready?

Speaker 1:

did you warn him? What is? What is this?

Speaker 2:

I'm ready, all right, did you warn him you? Should have we gotta start warning it's generational people when people watch the episode before they come on.

Speaker 5:

They already know. Then let's get, let's get. Okay, I'm ready I'm ready.

Speaker 4:

So we have to know what is your top five Dead or alive MCs.

Speaker 1:

So okay, I don't have like a number one top five. It doesn't have to be in order. So I'm a huge guru slash gang star fan. My theme song is the Moment of Truth by Gang Star. Next, after that we have to be Tribe, Called Quest.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I feel like that was coming. We're on the East Coast.

Speaker 1:

After that, de La Soul. Okay, now, as far as West Coast hip-hop and the hip-hop I'm into, I'd have to say the Far Side, that's dope.

Speaker 2:

That's a new one. I like that.

Speaker 1:

And then I mean a lot of people sleep on them. But I'll be honest, I do like Tech N9ne.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 5:

I can't be mad because I liked every artist on your list.

Speaker 2:

I knew it wasn't going to where you thought from the first time.

Speaker 5:

I knew when you said it, that first one, I said oh yeah, we ain't going to go where we're at.

Speaker 2:

She thinks Pac should be on every one Because it doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1:

No, no, here's the problem Like no, the math don't math. I have nothing against Tupac, but I'm not, you know. I feel like Tupac is a more hip-hop mainstream artist. I've always more like the underground scene, Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 5:

I listen a lot Non-commercial. You said far side. Yeah, like you ever heard of Warm Brew? No, I haven't, but I'm going to go look them up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like Warm Brew. They're a West Coast artist. Who else in the West Coast?

Speaker 5:

that I listen to. Did you say Warm Brew? Yeah, they're called Warm Brew. Hot-ass coffee? Yeah, it's called, it's not hot it's warm.

Speaker 1:

So you got what I'm saying. I like more the I don't like it's okay, it's okay.

Speaker 5:

Your list was dope oh okay. And it's not often I say that and Tupac ain't on it, because normally I act a fool, but your list was dope.

Speaker 3:

No, she act a fool every time they don't mention Tupac and and then she catch an attitude, and and that's how she.

Speaker 2:

She keep on passing me.

Speaker 1:

I'll be honest with you I was like fuck you and Jeff, I don't say Tupac, but I don't care, I don't care, I'm not going to sit out here. I mean, if you really just think about it, Tupac was just the East Coast holders on the West Coast.

Speaker 2:

He was global. Look thank you. Debatable.

Speaker 1:

He was the Earth child. Look man. I got nothing against Tupac. I still think he's a great artist and all that. But yeah, I'm more like the back packer.

Speaker 2:

I'm a back packer.

Speaker 5:

You had a really good day, but yeah, seriously check out Warm Brew, check out Pac Div.

Speaker 1:

They're West Coast artists, you know.

Speaker 2:

I tell everybody you like what you like, don't let Dez influence you, it don't matter.

Speaker 5:

Because I'm still going to say what I said. But you had a dope ass lips.

Speaker 2:

Don't let nobody kill Muppets in her spare time and, honestly, if I have to, go number one West Coast Dom Kennedy.

Speaker 5:

Oh, I love Dom Kennedy.

Speaker 1:

I just got to see him in concert.

Speaker 5:

I love Dom Kennedy yeah.

Speaker 2:

Dom K by far I'll ride, and Cassie.

Speaker 1:

Veggies? Who Cassie Veggies? I don't know that one.

Speaker 2:

See, that's what I'm saying, I'm kidding, I listen to.

Speaker 1:

Don yeah if you fuck with, then you've heard Cassie. You just didn't know that Cassie Veggies was on it.

Speaker 5:

There's another artist, oh man, I can't remember his damn name Larry June.

Speaker 1:

Larry June fire.

Speaker 5:

Fire Larry.

Speaker 2:

June fire.

Speaker 1:

Larry June farts 91 smoothies.

Speaker 2:

My shit, I think I just like Larry June the music where I just be sitting there and I'm like I could dance like a fool, just bro he's so true to who he is man he's like somebody said the realest shit ever.

Speaker 1:

I just seen a post and I was like how do you make pouring out oranges look cool? Larry June does it.

Speaker 4:

Yeah man, he is dope yeah, so that's the way, vibes yeah he's super vibey, so with that being said, I want to thank william wd-40. He is now coined. Wd-40 is dope. Um appreciate it. I appreciate you for being a part of this again. You inspire me every time I go to the gym and see you, uh, put up weight like it's nothing. I mean. Even the other day when I was, and you saw me. Every time I go to the gym and see you, uh, put up weight like it's nothing. I mean. Even the other day when I was and you saw me in a hack spot. You said that looks too easy, bro up the weight. I said god damn.

Speaker 4:

Hey, I'm gonna push you to do better with you, yes, so um I appreciate the energy, the vibe, man and, like I said, you keep inspiring as a black man, as just as a dope person, man. Um, thank you for being a part of this and shit. You're always welcome to come back Appreciate it and I wish you all the best success with your ventures, especially the clothing line and the podcast.

Speaker 1:

Thank, you Appreciate that.

Speaker 4:

Yes, man, I look forward to it. I guess until next time. Like, subscribe, comment, share All that shit. Peace, peace, peace.

Speaker 5:

This has been another episode of the Heavyweight Podcast. Talk your shit. One thing about me, baby I'm showing up every week to see who coming to talk their shit. Y'all better show up with me. See you there, bye.

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