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Talk Yo Shit "Mathew Veiga"
Why aren’t we teaching our daughters to defend themselves?
In this powerful episode of The Heavyweight Podcast, we sit down with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt, instructor, and content creator Matt Veiga of OS Nation BJJ for a raw, eye-opening conversation on the life-saving importance of self-defense.
With over 16 years of martial arts experience—ranging from intense MMA cage fights to leading jiu-jitsu classes—Matt shares how the discipline, confidence, and resilience built on the mat transform lives beyond it.
“When I train women, I don’t expect them to win the match. My job is to keep them alive,” Matt states, driving home the critical need for real-world self-defense training, especially for women and children.
We also dive deep into parenting, gender stereotypes, and the moment Matt’s daughter stepped onto the mat—his proudest jiu-jitsu moment. This episode challenges outdated perceptions and explores how martial arts can raise confident, self-aware, and safe kids without compromising who they are.
Plus, Matt shares golden advice for content creators: why consistency is king, and how his content legacy is about more than views—it's about impact.
Whether you're a parent, martial artist, or creator, this conversation will shift your mindset.
📲 Follow Matt Veiga @Oss_Nation_BJJ on all platforms.
🎧 Tune in and find out why his philosophy is reshaping jiu-jitsu and parenting alike.
little girls don't want to learn how to throw a football, so maybe some do. Maybe there are some that want to hoop there are, but maybe they. If you're like, hey, you could do that or you could do this elective and you can go learn how to protect yourself, just in case when you're walking outside of fucking Walmart and some fucking dude you know what I mean. You're like you're ready, I feel like.
Speaker 1:Why Like? Why are we not training with so many predators in this world? Why are we not training little girls how to protect themselves?
Speaker 3:I agree. I'm big boned. I'm heavy structured. I'm hung low If I pull my shit out.
Speaker 2:This whole room gets dark. I'm going to talk my shit. That finger let me talk my shit.
Speaker 4:So we have a dope. This is dope because of what it represents and the the fact that this is even in a bigger wheelhouse, of knowing that we work for the, that same company that always tries to yeah, but this is another dope episode I always say that, but I always mean it when I say it of talk your shit Right. Uh, I remember this man from when I was in package and I went to Romo land and I used to see him on the belt and I didn't realize that I'd had class with his brother for package and I had had class with his brother for package and I would talk with his brother and we'd chop it up about martial arts and I didn't realize that when I heard him talk one day, I realized the connection. I was oh shit, they're brothers and I even know their cousin who also does martial arts, and I'm like, well, shit, all right.
Speaker 4:So this is, for me, is dope, because every time that I see him at work, if you ever he's, he's, he's an open book he'll let you know exactly what you want to know about things. As far as content creation, he has his own podcast. He also is an instructor in jujitsu. I feel like he's one of the realest dudes you'll ever meet, as far as just straight up. And I, every time, I, I, I never tell you this map, when, every time I walk up to you, I'm like is he sizing me up to what? My ass?
Speaker 1:I don't fight for free guys.
Speaker 4:But anytime that I've ever walked up to him and asked him a question about either content creation, he's gave me game. Um, he's dope. When you uh, he's a father, he's uh, uh, you can tell he's very passionate about what he does. Um, I I've I've followed him heavily and closely about the, the things that he does with jujitsu and just content creation in general. Um, I like to welcome him here. Can you guys also welcome him here gracefully?
Speaker 1:this is matt vega of os bjj yeah, os nation bjj god damn that was a hell of a fucking introduction hey, I just like I said sometimes he glazes hey, hey, hey, I'm floating right now.
Speaker 6:This is a whole pause-worthy conversation. Oh.
Speaker 4:I just give credit and show love where it's due. Man, you ain't got quite glazing man, I mean sometimes glazing is necessary.
Speaker 1:Hey, glaze away, fuck, glaze me.
Speaker 3:Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5:That came out wrong.
Speaker 3:That came out wrong. Pause. Well, no, that came out wrong, but hey, pause Pause. I almost say pause.
Speaker 4:Zach.
Speaker 6:Morris time out.
Speaker 1:But no man, I appreciate it. I like what you guys are doing here. I've been listening this last week back in the catalog just kind of get the vibe of the show. You know what I mean, because you know I like to be prepared for what I'm walking into and you know it's a predominantly black podcast. I'm like, okay, I'm not saying I'm nervous, because I love attention and I love the camera and I can talk. Matt has always been a pleasure to have in class but talks too much so I can vibe with anybody. But you know, coming in here I was like man, am I like the Jackie Robinson of the heavyweight podcast? Am I breaking color barriers here?
Speaker 3:I mean, you're not the first white person.
Speaker 6:Yeah, we done had a couple white folks. I didn't go that far in the catalog.
Speaker 3:We had my man right here.
Speaker 6:We had personal here personal so he looked like Justin Dabbs him, but like yeah, we did have personal too.
Speaker 1:But to me, you know, I All right. Yeah, we didn't have personal too, but to me, you know, I'll be Satchel Paige then that's fine. Oh, that's fine, he was a bad player.
Speaker 3:I don't really count Brett as a white guy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you think he's black.
Speaker 6:He white. That's a nigga.
Speaker 1:Well, I appreciate you guys having me on here. You guys are doing very, very well. I love the flow that you guys have. Having a four or five man team is very, very hard in a podcast to not talk over each other and I'm sure probably in the first couple episodes you guys were doing that a lot, but now you guys, it seems like the last four episodes you guys really found a good rhythm here where you guys can flow really really good. Who's?
Speaker 3:in the laze in there.
Speaker 4:I'm welcoming it.
Speaker 1:It could. I'm doing the laser now. Hey, I'm welcoming it, hey, both ways. So like I really really like that.
Speaker 4:It could be a circle, jerk. Hey, I was telling, let him cook.
Speaker 1:I was telling Mitch. Mitch is my boy.
Speaker 3:Shout out Mitch, Shout out, Mitch yeah.
Speaker 1:I was telling Mitch I'm like, yeah, for a five-man team or a four-man team, they really do flow good. It has a good flow and the topics it's kind of like an apartment pool. It's a little deeper than I thought.
Speaker 3:It's really not that hard, matt. Half the time McFly's tired. Des is high.
Speaker 6:Kevin is drunk, I'll be here floating.
Speaker 1:It's 9 o'clock but it's like 9 pm for me.
Speaker 3:Hey, the party don't stop until I walk in.
Speaker 6:Everybody know I'm the nine o'clock you know, but like it's like 9 PM, hey, the party don't stop till I walk in Everybody.
Speaker 1:No, I'm the life of the party. Yeah, pleasure, pleasure to be here, pleasure to be here.
Speaker 6:We are happy to have you, thank you.
Speaker 4:So how long have you been doing jujitsu for?
Speaker 1:I've been doing martial arts my whole life, but like from Like, from like seven, my mom put me in and but I did MMA about 20 years of like. I did the cage fighting thing for a minute and then just jujitsu probably 16 years. Wow, so whole, yeah, my whole surgeries, the whole thing. You can always tell by the neck, Broke my face, broke my orbital, all that kind of everything.
Speaker 6:You know what I mean? Like we pretty much just been in it. Yeah, that sounds fun. You broke your face.
Speaker 1:It sounds fun, I broke my eye Socket Nose the whole. Thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, he's, he's fighting.
Speaker 1:When I was doing like the you know Crazy cage fighting stuff, yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm okay with breaking my nose and my eyes, like if I win the fight, right, if I lose, it's like I know.
Speaker 1:In the OG days you'd pay to do it. I remember my first day going into an MMA class. I walked in I can see that and the guy, my athletic career was already so hoop, I played basketball every day, all day. And then after that I was like what am I going to do with my life? My cousin's like you should try MMA, like UFC we're watching on TV. I was like I'll give it a shot. I went into a school that wasn't an MMA school so I quit. It was kind of underground back then. Some guy's like hey, you looking for MMA.
Speaker 5:Oh, you're doing them backyard shit. I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's all the real shit.
Speaker 3:I'm like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's like, oh, I've got this guy in this garage. I went and I fucking you know he had like a basket of laundry and shit. And I was like, hey, we're hitting pads over here and he's like you ever fought before. And I was like no, he's like all right. Well, they just pretty much jumped me, they fucked me up oh damn.
Speaker 1:And then they're like all right, practice tomorrow. And then I showed up the next day and then they started teaching me stuff, so you know, and then I kind of got into MMA, had a couple of bad knee injuries.
Speaker 3:Man, I hate to break it to you, but I think you're part of a gang.
Speaker 6:Yeah, it sounds like you got jumped in. You got jumped in, I'm not lying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're probably right, yeah.
Speaker 1:And so then I, you know, started, got a couple of knee injuries but kind of quit doing the fighting thing because you know, I was like 24 at the time. So you know, I didn't think UFC maybe, like I didn't think that was going to ever be an option for me because of my age, I started too late. So then I started doing grappling and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and I just kind of fell in love with it and so ever since I've been doing that and then and when did you know this is like.
Speaker 4:This is what I'm dedicating my life to, and that once did you know?
Speaker 1:this is like. This is what I'm dedicating my life to. I just feel like it's such a stress relief and it's such a you build such a confidence when you know that like you you're, that if you want it. You know what I mean. Like I, I think it's. It's very, very good for kids. I think it's very good for any kind of like. Just martial arts has just taught me to like it's not that serious, you know what I mean. And like it's a passion, something you want to do. So I just fell in love with it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:It sounds like post-nut clarity without regret. Oh my Jesus. Oh yeah, that's actually a great.
Speaker 1:No, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to cuddle for a while.
Speaker 6:You know, what I mean like I'm done, but like yeah, yeah, let's, I won't leave right away.
Speaker 1:Let's get breakfast in the morning. You know what I?
Speaker 6:mean, yeah, I'm tired of y'all.
Speaker 4:That's that. That was actually a great yes no, 100 like it's like I'm like it was like.
Speaker 3:That's what it's all like because sometimes after that post night you're like man, I should have did this shit fuck yeah, why do I put pussy on the side of my asshole?
Speaker 1:The job we hate, though, has been beneficial for me because them tons of other co-pays I've had like four knee surgeries. If I without this job, there's no fucking way.
Speaker 3:I would still be in the game. This is not related to that, but when I went to an emergency three months ago, whatever it was, and my copay was like $25. And the lady next to me, they were like, oh, that'd be $450. I said oh yeah, and she pulled out a card. I said you about to pay that? I said you know they charge you right, they can bill you.
Speaker 6:I'm not paying the bills.
Speaker 1:No, bro, I don't know how people make it on.
Speaker 5:That's my last job and I just I learned that you can go.
Speaker 3:Oh, just bill me yeah just bill me, cause my copay is 25 and I'm like just bill me bill me and I ain't gonna pay that. I'm not gonna pay it because I realize they can't put medical bills on your credit so now I never pay you just bill me interesting.
Speaker 5:I didn't even fucking know that I knew that shit it doesn't affect your credit at all just mail me $250 the two black guys knew, okay, anyway you know why cause this shit?
Speaker 6:good, naturally, I didn't know.
Speaker 4:I had no idea stay scheming okay they trying to get at me so I gotta know this you're honest, have you beaten your brother chris in a like, like a fight?
Speaker 1:yeah, uh, I'm like eight years older than chris. Chris is my little brother. I love that kid like uh he's gonna be honest honestly, like he's like. I remember praying for him to be born you know what I mean so like that's my guy. I would never. I've never came to anything like that. I would die for that kid, so okay no, that's the good.
Speaker 3:That's the good.
Speaker 1:We did have some wwe matches, okay, when we were little and I, he has been razor's edged and powerbombed and uh I used to tell him my baby sister. So I know you. So all that. Yeah, yo sis. Yeah, you know, I remember one time we'd oklahoma drilled them where we like I used to trust him, my baby sister, so I know you. So all that, yo sister. Yeah, I remember one time we'd Oklahoma drill them where we like speared into a cow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, yeah, brother, little big brother stuff. That's what boys do.
Speaker 4:I may or may not be responsible for some cousin's setback.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, but physically, physically, me and him ever got into it.
Speaker 4:No, never no.
Speaker 1:Okay, never.
Speaker 4:Even just sparring.
Speaker 1:I would. No, no, I mean he's kind of trained before we've rolled. But I mean, but you got him in height and size, I've got him well in size. Well in size. And yeah, different dads you know.
Speaker 3:Mom, mom, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:You're trying to say you had better genes.
Speaker 6:I'm not saying, I'm just saying my dad was bigger than his dad.
Speaker 4:You know, shout out to chris, um, what are your favorite things in teaching jiu-jitsu?
Speaker 1:I like watching people grow, um, confidence and I like getting DMS. Like, dude, that move you showed or like, so, like, especially when I train women, when I have women in class, like I trained them different, I don't expect women to win the match. My job is to keep them alive. So I can teach you how to triangle arm, but I put someone to sleep, all that stuff. You're going to learn that. But again, a guy has testosterone, a guy's bigger. So when I'm rolling with it, when I have girls rolling with guys, uh, there's a timer going on around time where I'll be like three minutes till help comes.
Speaker 1:Whatever help may be, I just need you to stay alive. I need you to find a safe spot. I need you to protect yourself. You know what I mean, because, off, I hits at the ground. So instilling confidence in people physically you know what I mean Like I think is a good thing and I think it provides a service that you know I'm very, very passionate about. Um, I wish that, uh, if more people law enforcement especially, or anybody, knew how to really, really defend themselves, they wouldn't have to use that tool. You know what I mean. Yeah, you know what I mean, like they wouldn't have to go that extra limit like you could have easily detained that person if you knew how to detain that person so.
Speaker 1:I feel like there's a loss and especially in like police academies and stuff like that. They're there. People are putting cops out so fast because everybody the world is growing and crime is growing regardless, so they're throwing these cops out there. They don't know dick, they don't know shit, so they don't know how to. They don't know how to stop somebody, so they were quick to the taser, they're quick to the to the weapon. So I like to build, knowing that I'm helping build confidence where someone's like no, I don't need that, I can just take this guy down or I my way to win this without clicking. Somebody hits his head on a curb now he killed himself on accident. Now I'm in jail, you know, I mean, like I, a non-violent way to finish a person. I like be able to provide that for people and confidence.
Speaker 3:It's a little violent well, I mean it's very violent but it's a better alternative than a felony they're going to walk away from it, I just think more.
Speaker 5:Martial arts teaches you to be mindful as well too. So you'll think before you act. So it's like I also feel like that has to be a part of it. You're not just oh, it's just attack, like you said. You're like let me find a way to do this this way. It's not nonviolent.
Speaker 3:No, no, no. It a way to do this this way. It's not non-violent. No, I'm saying it's a different level of focus. It's like targeted focus.
Speaker 6:I think you're right about putting it in the police academies, but with the amount of times that they're snatching children, it might be really good for kids to start learning young as well.
Speaker 3:That's what I wanted my child to do.
Speaker 6:So that they can protect themselves. Your daughter doing great at what she's doing Her.
Speaker 3:Mama want her there, I want her to have hands.
Speaker 1:Y'all are going to be rich. It's so important for your kids.
Speaker 3:If she's flexible now I'm pretty sure she can get. Her legs are strong. When she get a chokehold, she choke them up.
Speaker 6:Why can't she do both? Okay, I told you $10, a lot.
Speaker 3:You think I'm finna pay for something else you did tell me it cost a lot when I was selling ass.
Speaker 6:We need to go find me.
Speaker 3:Why you ain't trying to show your ass.
Speaker 5:That's why he's losing weight anyway. He trying to sell his ass.
Speaker 3:That's exactly why why did you go with ass and not penis. Hey, I'm not gay.
Speaker 6:That's a fabulous question.
Speaker 3:I'm not gay, but $20 is $20. Hey, I.
Speaker 5:Oh God.
Speaker 1:There's a market for brothers and feet pics. I know you guys don't like it. I mean. I mean.
Speaker 5:I'm about to sell.
Speaker 1:After watching, brothers don't like to show their toes.
Speaker 5:Most of us.
Speaker 1:After seeing Shaq, my feet are glorious.
Speaker 5:We got Shannon Sharp feet a lot of times. Yeah them feet, Hold on.
Speaker 6:This is I'm really into it, kevin.
Speaker 3:I was feed a lot of yeah, they'll feed hold on. This is unrelated too, kevin. I was watching White Chicks last night, oh god, and I realized that Shannon Sharp is Latrell.
Speaker 6:Yes, he is easy white chocolate.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, he is when I put that correlation together, I couldn't stop laughing. Yes, he is, that's definitely Latrell.
Speaker 5:That's hilarious oh God damn, that movie couldn't make it today.
Speaker 3:Hell no.
Speaker 1:I do think it is important for daughters and little girls to learn how to defend themselves.
Speaker 1:I wish that there was any. I mean, I definitely promote Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu because I think all fights hit the ground and if you know how to fight off your back because you trip over a curb or a table or a scuffle, even in boxing it's not real because the ref says, break it up, break it up it always ends in a clinch. So clinch, get you down, Boom, it's over. So I feel like Jiu-Jitsu. I'm a proponent for that. But I think any type of martial arts in a physical education in elementary school, in the middle school, would be so beneficial, especially for little girls, Because breaking news little girls don't want to learn how to throw a football. Maybe some do. Maybe there are some that want to hoop. There are, maybe there are some that want to hoop. There are, but maybe they. If you're like hey, you could do that or you could do this elective and you can go learn how to protect yourself, just in case when you're walking outside of fucking walmart and some fucking dude, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:You're like, you're ready I agree I feel like why are we not training with so many predators in this world? Why are we not training little girls how to be protect themselves?
Speaker 6:I agree, I totally agree definitely but, I also would be that day.
Speaker 3:I would just record and tell her not to stop. Let's keep opening his ass, yeah yeah oh, it's out there.
Speaker 1:Hey, there's some girls in our academy that just mangle little boys dude. Absolutely wreck them damn, I believe it.
Speaker 4:I like that girl, girl power as you cook period as you said, that you had a video of yours that I watched recently where you were talking about taking your daughter to train and that it gave you a high to be able to train with your daughter, and then you realized she was excited to train with you as well, and then you brought the rest of the parents to bring their daughter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, I always look forward to like putting my daughter in jujitsu. So my wife was like no, I don't want my daughter to be a lesbian.
Speaker 1:Oh, damn she's like please, I want her to be a girly girl, do not put her in this barbaric sport, right. And I'm like it's not like that. But my wife is not a proponent for jiu-jitsu. She thinks it's dumb. She sees how hurt I am all the time. She's like no, I, I'm against it.
Speaker 1:And I was like well, when she's seven, she's getting in because she has to get in, because if something happened to her and I knew how to and I was able to help her and I didn't, I could never live with that.
Speaker 1:So at seven she came in. She was all about it because she's been watching it for years and I've been doing a little drills for her on in the house. So she was like rich, oh, I know how to do this. So she was ready to go and just by like seeing her excitement and like that was probably the highlight of my jiu-jitsu career. I know it's one of the questions, but that was probably the highlight of my jiu-jitsu career, which I thought, maybe getting my black belt or winning a championship here or there, but like watching her like be excited and like wanting to do something that I'm so passionate about, like it was like a very a game changer for me and uh, that's probably like the best moment of my jiu-jitsu career so far is just like seeing how excited she is about it and she's like obsessed with it. Now like sorry honey, you lost on that one.
Speaker 6:You know what? I mean, and she'll still be dainty.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I mean I don't think I wouldn't care if my daughter was a lesbian. I don't care Whatever. Like love who you want to love, right, but she doesn't want her to be like. She wants her to be girl.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean and I'm like that's out there. My wife just is not interested. I can tell you this man Tell your wife that my child is gangsta and girly, Because she'll paint her nails and then hit you in the face.
Speaker 1:But that's. I think a girl should be like that. Shout out to.
Speaker 6:Phoenix, that's my girl.
Speaker 1:I think a real dainty girl is vulnerable. Yeah, I vulnerable, yeah, yeah, yeah you're. I mean, you are absolutely right. There may be maybe back in the day that could have been uh, okay, when a man only worked, but now women are in the workforce and you got to be able to. They're out there and there's creeps at every job and like you got to be able to be like fuck off you know it's creeps walmart.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say just at the gas station everywhere we go yeah, yeah, women are prey animals.
Speaker 1:You ain't gotta go to walmart.
Speaker 3:There was, look here this the little boy, my I said.
Speaker 5:I told my daughter if you make fun of your name one more time, punch him in his mouth no, I remember there's this young lady she was at the gas station I used to work at, like have to go at three in the morning and like, because her nails the way they were, she could slide her card into the slot. And she was like, excuse me, can you help me? And I'm like imagine, if it wasn't me right, I was helping you, like that could have went any sort of way three in the morning, but that's but still not always the and the predators be looking safe yeah, yeah, 100, you don't know you never know it's hard.
Speaker 1:It's it's so hard to be a woman with online predator. Girl on girl bullying is like so bad in school it's like the worst. I've got two boys with the squab and out throw hands like okay okay, we're cool like yeah me, and andy had beef.
Speaker 1:Oh, we met up. We fought. One of us lost the next day. We're cool, we're sitting. We're cool. Me and Andy had beef. We met up, we fought. One of us lost the next day. We're cool, we're probably cool sitting in the office waiting for the principal to break it up.
Speaker 3:I don't know, man.
Speaker 6:If it don't have bad to be my ass, we might not be cool, I might be fighting revenge.
Speaker 5:These boys is baddies.
Speaker 6:These boys is bad bitches.
Speaker 1:The online bullying is what's what? The girls just talking shit like, oh she's a slut.
Speaker 6:She's this she's this.
Speaker 1:She slept with this guy, even though she didn't. You know what I mean. Like that, that shit's fucked up, and I mean that is brutal. Like it never ends because they never. There's never a conflict where they solve it, it's just shit talk. And that's why I'm teaching my daughter to punch them, motherfuckers, in the mouth yeah yeah, so they know there's consequences that fuckers spread in the dirt on my name absolutely, I tell you, you will never be in trouble for defending yourself.
Speaker 3:No, no, fuck, no, now don't start shit, but end it.
Speaker 1:End it, yes all you need is one good fight. That's it. And then the girls are like. Remember what she fucking little girl in second grade. No, leave her alone, she's not the one.
Speaker 6:I don't know, these bitches like to come back. I kept whooping the same girl's ass in the seventh grade.
Speaker 4:You didn't whoop it enough.
Speaker 6:No, I was whooping that girl's ass. One time I beat her up so damn bad she had a knot on her head. They called my mama like listen, we might have to call the police on her. I just need to kill you.
Speaker 4:I made a connection just now. You ever notice in elementary school that the girls that were really good at tetherball were the ones that were whooping everybody's ass.
Speaker 6:Yes, the same motel.
Speaker 1:Yes, because I'm 90% sure that Tishka was whooping everybody's ass.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's training. What for the ass, just who? Yeah, that's training. What for?
Speaker 4:the ass Just what?
Speaker 3:But what matters is I had one fight in high school and when he had to get his braces put back on, no one messaged me.
Speaker 1:I got my ass whooped in ninth grade and I had been training. I was doing fake martial arts, so karate and stuff. There's some shit that's McDojo, some bullshit out there. That shit don't work. That shit's kicking little paddles and balloons and stuff. There's some shit that's McDojo, some bullshit out there. That shit don't work. That shit's kicking little paddles and balloons and shit. That shit's phony. You said McDojo.
Speaker 5:Yeah, Some fake ass baloney ass fucking martial arts. I kind of like that shit.
Speaker 1:There's some bullshit out there. So the traditional you're doing boxing, you're doing wrestling, you're doing judo, you're doing jujitsu, you're doing I'm scared kushin karate and wang chung and fucking whatever that shit's whack so if they hear this man, they want to challenge you.
Speaker 1:I'm just going forward to you, that's fine uh, right, I don't fight for free, uh, but um, so, like I, it's like I'm gonna fight this fucking kid. I was like oh, he's big. He kept punking me for my pizza. My mom's kind of old school mom's like You're gonna fight this guy tomorrow. So I've been paying For these lessons, you're not gonna be in trouble, put your hands on, punch him in the nose. I'm like I'm gonna hit this motherfucker and then the teachers are gonna Break it up. No, I hit this motherfucker. The teachers did not Break it up back. No, jiu-jitsu training. And he was on top of me punching on me. I'm covering and I'm thinking. So where these fucking teachers at at a big crowd of kids, the kids stopped for a minute like man, my hands hurt and then he's fucking just kept going. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3:like I got.
Speaker 1:You didn't swing when he stopped I was trying to punt, I was turtled up. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:So like, I got mangled as a kid. And then don't, don't ever tell the all good.
Speaker 6:Hey, you learned from your losses, you know, what I mean, I'm gonna tell you a Walmart story when we finish this did you get a rematch?
Speaker 1:fuck, I didn't want a rematch. I was Apollo Creed, I was. I don't want no rematch, he said I was Apollo it's all good, there ain't gonna be no rematch. I was like it got fucking pummeled me so like I. I never got that one back, but I'll take that shit now for free. I would fight that motherfucker for free where you at.
Speaker 3:Jeremy, jeremy from Wargat no no and if you see this, jeremy, we'll go ahead and we'll broadcast live from the fight. I'm ready now if your name is Jeremy and you just want to test it, no, we need the.
Speaker 1:Jeremy, no, I need that kid from Laguna Beach.
Speaker 5:Oh damn, he's not a kid. No more Laguna Jeremy.
Speaker 1:He's Laguna, jeremy, jeremy, from.
Speaker 5:Laguna Kids and shit, Just like I forgot about my band.
Speaker 1:He was an eighth grader, I was a sixth grader, I think. Oh, he needs to in the internet.
Speaker 4:It is what it is, and so you learn from your losses. You know what I mean. He's scaring the internet. He's like oh, I was waiting for this.
Speaker 1:Goddamn rematch, yes even on the loss, he didn't back to my result. Even after the loss, he didn't fuck with me anymore oh, that's respect he's like they went through hands. I can't take his pizza no more. You know what I mean. Like he over.
Speaker 1:But if it was two girls, that shit talk would have just kept going it doesn't end for the girls yeah like my daughter's got really, really curly hair and, um, there's girls in her class saying that her hair is ugly, so she can't. She's like so self-conscious about her hair. She has beautiful curly hair and me and my wife are like nah, your hair is gorgeous. These girls are just hating because they don't. My daughter wants to get get a short haircut and get rid of her hair.
Speaker 3:We ain't gonna let her do that. I can relate to that shit.
Speaker 6:Well, if she sees this I want you to know that I'm sure your curls are stunning and they just hating on you because they want some curls too. I'm hating on you because I ain't got no curls. He bald as a baby. He ain't got nothing to attach the curl to and we was going to give him some curls.
Speaker 3:I didn't even recognize you, but you lost a lot of fuck to the weight. Thank you, bro.
Speaker 1:He half of him baby. Appreciate that.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to get my AJ wig, you're not going to say anything.
Speaker 6:You're not going to say anything.
Speaker 3:You're not going okay, go ahead now. Say it normally, dez would compliment me and I'd be like Dez, stop trying to fuck.
Speaker 6:Oh, I mean no, no, uh, uh, cause, uh, uh, uh, uh no she always hardening my stories and shit. Stop trying to fuck because your wife is on. Stop trying to fuck you, trying to fuck both of us. That's the problem.
Speaker 4:I told you your wife got a better chance than you do if there was somebody in the room that, yeah, that she could attach that to. She's the closest.
Speaker 6:Your wife has a better chance of me trying to sleep with her than you do.
Speaker 3:We're interviewing Matt. This is not about you and you're a long shot.
Speaker 6:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:Oh God, she likes real meat, the warm kind.
Speaker 4:So can you clarify gi or no gi, and which do you prefer?
Speaker 1:Gi is the jiu-jitsu, is the karate outfit. That's gi. No gi is basically like a rash guard in the fight shorts. That's Gi no Gi is basically like a rash guard in the fight shorts. Generally the public will say no Gi is better. But I think Gi is better because everybody's wearing shirts, everybody's wearing pants, everybody's wearing backpack. You know what I mean. Unless you're fighting on South Beach, I would take Gi as more of a real-life fight scenario and it's kind of like wearing a weighted bat in baseball.
Speaker 1:Nogi is very slippery, so you can slip out of a lot of submissions. You can slip out of a lot of stuff that like you can do not. Technically gi is no slip, so like you have to defend everything perfectly, so it kind of teaches you proper defense. So when you take the gi off you're just great. So definitely gi is what I prefer. But they're both awesome. If you're doing any of them you're way ahead of the curve. An average blue belt which takes about two years to get at the adult level, um can handle shit against most people in a hand-to-hand situation.
Speaker 4:So they're both good you know what I think? That's dope.
Speaker 6:I didn't know what either thing was, so that I feel educated now, especially if you're like, I throw hands, I'm Tom O'Leary, jack Johnson, somebody.
Speaker 1:If that's you imagine having confidence on the ground. So even if you watch him, a man, if you guys do the law time, the jujitsu guy with no hands will put hands on the peer striker guy. Who with hands, because the peer striker is so scared of hitting the ground that he doesn't throw big punches with the jujitsu guys, like I want to be on my ass anyways and he just lets loose. So like the confidence of knowing that, like, and he just lets loose. So like the confidence of knowing that, like, the worst spot you can imagine is being on the ground is where I'm most dangerous, opens up your hands and you just be like, go ahead. Oh no, she pulled me by the hair, she took me down. Oh, that's fine, now I'm on. Now, I just swept you, now I'm on top. Yeah, that was a bad idea.
Speaker 1:You should not have done that in anything in life is the best you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:It's the only way to actually build. Yeah, exactly exactly yeah. And as a parent, how do you find balance in working being an instructor and a content creator?
Speaker 1:um, being an instructor? Um, kind of just kind of fell into my lap. My professor was like hey, you want to take over the? I took over the 6 am class, which was kind of just kind of fell into my lap. My professor was like hey, you want to take over the? I took over the 6am class, which was kind of good training early before my family wakes up, doing stuff, sacrificing sleep to build a brand.
Speaker 1:Like I make sure that I have my quality time with my wife and my kids, but when they're not around I'm always hustling scheduling posts. Sunday night You're like man, you post like 12 to seven times a day. They'll be like how do you do that? Sunday night I post, have them all scheduled and sometimes randomly I'll throw one out there, but usually they all this boom, boom, boom. So I'm not doing work during the week on some of my stuff and it's coming out scheduled wise. You know what I mean. I have my podcast time and all that.
Speaker 1:But I was kind of raised by my grandparents for content creation and they had a big part in my upbringing. But you know they passed on and they there was no. There was camera cords but there was no video, no audio of my grandparents and I kind of forgot what they sounded like. I'm starting to forget them more than I remember them. So I was like I don't want, I want to live forever and I want to be able to like. And some of the stuff I say isn't good and my kid, my, it's kind of some of it can be cringy. But I know my great great grandkids. When I'm in hospice and they look up they're just typing grandpa's name. So much stuff, uh there's. They're gonna be like one day I'm gonna have a great grandkid to stumble head to weight podcast with, with papa vega, like what the here? I didn't even know this existed. This random audio like I'm everywhere and I feel like I didn't even know this existed, this random audio Like I'm everywhere and I feel like I just wanted to live forever.
Speaker 1:So that's why my main purpose of content creation was to I just don't want to be known as a UPS guy or just irrelevant. Not many people know who their great-great-grandfather was unless you really make an impact, know who their great great grandfather was unless you really make an impact. And I feel like you know the jiu jitsu community and they've kind of like my followers have kind of like embraced me, like they're like you're the guy you know. They're kind of like we, like we with this guy. So to me I'm like I'm thankful for them and I'm thankful for everybody who's kind of helped me, um, grow. But you know, so now my is's just booming. I want you to hit 10,000 followers. It just takes off. So that's got to be your guys' goals. Get to 10k. And don't fucking buy those motherfuckers. Don't, because that will ruin the whole algo. But don't buy them, but they'll come, because I already can tell you guys have a good chemistry and all you gotta do is keep putting out, keep putting out, keep putting out.
Speaker 3:And that's why I tell my wife just keep putting out, I'll keep getting skills.
Speaker 1:Okay, I tell my wife that too bro oh hell.
Speaker 3:As long as you're putting out everything will be okay, don't encourage it. You just have to have the 48 hour rule. We have a 48 rule. I can't do that because sometimes schedules be rough A sex is a 40-hour rule.
Speaker 1:I can make a move on my wife. She can say no, oh, that way. Okay, she can say no and I have to. Okay, she's not in the mood, I get it, but she's got 48 hours to make a move on me.
Speaker 6:Oh, I like that that keeps it spicy.
Speaker 1:I know it's coming in the next 48 hours. It's her move. I'm not going to get shut down twice. I'm too big of an ego for that. But she has 48 hours to okay. All right, you turn it down and vice versa, which I never turn that shit down, but it's a 48-hour, I get it. Sometimes she's tired, she's momming, she's handling shit, she works. She does a lot of shit when I'm not around, when I'm doing shit like this, you know what I mean. So she shuts me down like not tonight. I know within 48 hours she's gonna come up to me and be like hey, and I'll be like oh, okay, sweet. So he said that kind of keeps it going for us.
Speaker 4:sometimes I want to leave work early he says he knows it's coming, and then they're coming, then we're coming dude, sometimes real quick.
Speaker 3:Those would be the best ones. Yes.
Speaker 1:For me, yeah, get in the house, Not for her.
Speaker 3:Not for me, like when she come quick, I'm like dude you done. Oh well, shit, don't let me Lock in.
Speaker 1:I roll over, I'm sleeping, all of a sudden, hey, put on her backpack fuck around, fuck around.
Speaker 3:Put spicy mayo on that rose spicy mayo on the rose.
Speaker 1:That's fucking diabolical bro. That's fucking hey, that's fucking mean dude, yeah should've woke me up.
Speaker 5:You're an ass spicy mayo wow, yeah, you have to live with that, though, like, just like, yeah, you gotta lay right next to her.
Speaker 1:I know Spicy mayo, wow, yeah you have to live with that, though, just like. Yeah, you got to lay right next to her, I know.
Speaker 4:I know you in a way already have elaborated to a degree what's one thing you wish people understood more about jiu-jitsu and content creation. Even you know.
Speaker 1:It's not easy, but nothing in life is easy. Right, um, life is not easy. Um, content creation is not easy. When you first start, the only people are going to be liking your shit is me, my uncle, peepaw, their brother, the people that you fuck with. Um, I mean, then maybe, yeah, I have helped me, my partner have helped grow a very, very popular podcast. We have like almost 300 000 downloads.
Speaker 1:Like we're really like top 50 in like the fighting sports spot, but that's because we put the work in and because I had grown my social media so high. It helped like develop it, helped kind of fast track it. But, like we put the work in and at first we weren't getting the views right away, but it's a steamroll effect. You know what I mean. And, uh, being real, being honest and just being, that's what people want, a lot of people. You'll get like the barbershop with lebron, right, and you're like I, we look up to these guys, but I know, but we can't like we're. They're not us though, yeah, because they it's like we can't like.
Speaker 1:So our the bjj balance podcast we're just two dudes who do jujitsu, who are dads who work hard, who are trying to provide for our families, and our followers resonate with that. So at first it's not gonna grow fast, it's not, but consistency is what gets it. When people go to your page and they like heavyweight podcast and look at it like oh shit, 200 episodes. Oh I fuck with these guys. If they go on there and they're like four episodes, are they even gonna podcast next week? Right, you have to build a library first.
Speaker 1:Um, so yeah, that that's it, just consistency. And it's not easy and it's hard, and you're gonna, in jujitsu, you're gonna get hurt, but, um, are you ready to, uh, be there when you need to be there for your family? It what's it? Was it worth being hurt? Is the juice worth the squeeze, so to speak? So if you're passionate about something, it's not work.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Facts.
Speaker 4:I agree.
Speaker 1:So that's, that's just hard, just it's, it's not easy. Not even content Grant is not easy. Talking, learning your voice, listening, talking, learning your voice, listening to your voice, everybody who starts uh, a podcast.
Speaker 6:The first thing they say is like I hate the way I even sound on me fucking every day, every day, for every day and now you're like oh, I know what I said three years in man, I still hate the way I sound but you sound like shit, though I know I'm I appreciate it.
Speaker 3:I'm like I appreciate the feedback. We work together, we understand.
Speaker 1:I know that you guys work together yeah, but no, I mean finding your voice, finding your rhythm, finding your timing, being able to look into the camera when you talk. All that stuff takes practice reps you guys just do it, yeah. So yeah, finding your right team. You know what I mean. We might make some cuts soon. No, you ain't too many backpacks, you got to just do it, yeah.
Speaker 3:So yeah, Finding your right team. You know what I mean. We might make some cuts soon.
Speaker 1:No, you ain't Too many backpacks. It's a lot of money.
Speaker 3:It's a lot of money you got to divide a lot of money over here.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of slices of pie, a lot of pieces of cake.
Speaker 4:It's like the backpack.
Speaker 6:Anybody pay no attention.
Speaker 1:He loved, in my opinion, he loved me and he made fun of me every episode because he knew I think you're safe. The girl dynamic is huge for a podcast.
Speaker 6:I think I'm safe too, because the people love me, and he loved me, and he loves me, and he loves me. I'm here for big tissues. You love me, I'm here for big tissues too.
Speaker 5:I got a question yeah, go ahead six and a half inches on the side well, I know.
Speaker 6:Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Six and a half inches. So good, my God. Was that soft or hard? Why is there a?
Speaker 1:follow-up.
Speaker 6:Don't get hard brother.
Speaker 3:Why is there a follow-up?
Speaker 6:What the fuck? He's selling ass and following up questions.
Speaker 1:All right, you got me Six, but if I lean my back I get a little extra, not if I lean my back back.
Speaker 6:I mean, I thought he back back I mean, I thought he was advertising.
Speaker 3:I want to make sure the ladies are all in for him.
Speaker 6:He got a wife. We don't do that here.
Speaker 3:We don't know.
Speaker 6:They might be open.
Speaker 1:He got a wife. The dance is open. I'm not a listener.
Speaker 6:He has a wife. We don't do that here. My wife responded.
Speaker 5:Why don't you tell somebody who's looking to get into jujitsu what to look for in a gym, or something like that?
Speaker 1:You're going to want to. Yelp reviews are always good, obviously. Now that you know me, you can just DM me Like what about this place and I'll tell you if it's legit or not. Okay, but just the kids kids class. If the kids class is vibrant and it's flourishing and the instructors are good with the kids, you're probably in a good spot. Okay, if there's no, if there's no kids in any kind of gym or thing like that, the kids programs is how you can tell if they're actually teaching the right things. Because if the parents have a good radar like if you're treating your kid right or if your kids are doing good, if they have no kids, then you know it's probably. And there are creeps in jujitsu. Don't get that fucking twisted. People are human, you know what I mean. So you got to make sure you find the right place. You're not in some mcdojo bullshit, but uh, for the most part you can look up the lineage of your professor by his rank, by his belt, all that kind of shit. There's a lot of ways to tell.
Speaker 5:I'll help you out, bro. You want to start?
Speaker 1:I've been wanting to for some people, let's get weird Anytime you guys want to do a class anytime you guys want to do a class. You come and just do a class for free. Okay, I'll go with you.
Speaker 4:That answers my last question. Yeah.
Speaker 5:I'm down Free class, bro, break my finger, see how I deal with that You're going to break your finger on purpose.
Speaker 1:You're going to be tired, not on purpose, oh.
Speaker 5:I'll be tired in like 13 seconds.
Speaker 1:But you just pace yourself, bro. 13 seconds, just pace yourself.
Speaker 4:I got my copay. I had Mitch in there. That's why.
Speaker 3:I tell my wife I said as a former wrestler, three minutes is a long time. Yeah, I know, it was quick. Three minutes is a long time, hey have you guys seen those videos?
Speaker 1:I know, I know we have. Have you seen those videos of the dudes who make the fucking girls pump? Yeah, oh, yeah, like are you tired no, send me one. Yeah, they barely last a minute. They barely last a minute. They're tired, but yeah it's so easy.
Speaker 5:Yeah, send me one, and I'm bigger than you yeah, I'm planking harder.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm holding more weight. Yeah, and I'm not throwing it back oh, jesus do you guys think I know you're gonna?
Speaker 1:there was the MC question which, lyrically, I'm not really being a guy who's so into like lyrics of words, whether that's rock or rap or whatever. I have kind of like a beat guy, so like I like Lil Wayne and I like some Kendrick Lamar, but now he's getting way too popular so I'm kind of like falling off of him a little bit. Oh, that's hipster shit. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I see like they don't like as much of white kids. I'm like all right, I'm out. Uh, you know what I mean. You know what I mean? Like he's kind of I don't know. I don't know if he's sold out or not, but hey, man, get your money, I'm gonna sell out I hope you motherfuckers sell out, he's sold in.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, sell the fuck out if you can get that, if you can get commas in your account, get commas in your account, um, but like, uh, do you guys feel as black men and women that like culturally, you guys are like, get shit on.
Speaker 6:If you like rock or country or some other genre of music, it has to be r&b, rap, hip-hop I don't, because I like all genres of music and no one's ever giving me a hard time about it. No, okay, I don't, because I feel all genres of music and no one's ever given me a hard time about it. No, okay, I don't, because I feel like we start all genres. We definitely start all genres. We definitely have an influence on everything.
Speaker 6:No matter what, I'm listening to no, no, no, we don't have an influence. We started all of them, that's what I said. Well, that's not true, because we didn't start polka music. Oh there's a lot of people.
Speaker 1:There's a polka community out there, don't?
Speaker 6:be shitting on people you like, polkas.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:I didn't think so. We didn't start bluegrass either.
Speaker 5:Yeah Well there's some influence. Yeah, it stems from someplace else that we started. But you're right yeah.
Speaker 6:We did start a majority of the genres of music.
Speaker 1:Country blues, it's all.
Speaker 6:It's kind of hard, but we definitely started country. I'll turn on some Stone Temple Palace.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I was going to say I've always grown up like that, a little bit sevenfold, okay.
Speaker 5:I think we get more of a difference in the state we live in too. The state we live in, yeah, Because when I left the state I was like, oh, you've never met a black person.
Speaker 1:That's nuts like, oh, you've never met a black person. That's yes. That's like yeah, what the fuck? I think? I think I think, culturally, we all live off of, we as a society, we all have to get off of what our great grandparents opinions are of other races I agree, like I think we're. We don't even remember their names. Why are we still following their beliefs? You know?
Speaker 6:what I mean agreed like because it's a trauma, it's a trauma.
Speaker 1:Trauma is generational trauma is.
Speaker 1:But we gotta. We gotta learn to someone's, we gotta break the chain somehow and we gotta come together and we gotta be judge somebody for who they are as a person, not for what their great great great grandfather did, vice versa, or either way. Like not every not every black kid is a thug. Some of my best friends in the world are black. You know what I mean. Not every white guy is racist. Does he have racist roots generationally, way back when? I guarantee you're going to find something? You know what I mean. But that doesn't mean that's who he is as a person.
Speaker 1:I'm not laughing at that, I'm sorry, my man's out here, I don't need laughing because I think about that with my wife sometimes.
Speaker 5:I'm like at some point they were calling me the internet what you going to do. I mean her maiden name is Black. Yeah, they probably kicked her ass out, they kicked the whole family out of their leg.
Speaker 1:I feel like we just got to get past that. It takes work.
Speaker 5:It's going to be the next generation.
Speaker 1:I think it's getting better.
Speaker 6:It is getting better, but it's going to take a lot of healing.
Speaker 1:I think it's not going to be ever 100%, but I think our kids, kids, kids, that's when you're really going to start seeing real change. It's hard, it's hard Soon, you're really going to start seeing real change. But it's hard.
Speaker 5:It's hard Sooner than you think Shit's going to get rough, but it's going to take that roughness to make it.
Speaker 1:I think two episodes. You guys are talking about what is free. You know what I mean and I think you guys made a lot of good points. By the way, I think the real white guys from the really rich rich they probably were. You're probably right on some of the stuff. You said, a couple of scopes, but like you got poor kids who raised up like they're not racist why why would a racist live right next door in the hood? You know what I mean like they're. They're experiencing the same kind of difficulties being, you know, financially unstable and poor and not knowing where next food is coming, and violence and crime is the kids in the hood.
Speaker 5:If they're born in the hood, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Meet each other, though right, that's the shitty part is they live next door and don't meet each other yeah, and that's where it's got to change, because they're going off of he said, she said I think that is also a cool thing in jiu-jitsu. The cool thing is jiu-jitsu is I have learned to get advice from other men and women and when you, you're I was raised, all you think is your mom and your dad and your. That's who you get your advice from. Mom, should I buy this? Should I don't do this? Is credit card, no, credit card, this that you get your, your stable of advice.
Speaker 1:Now I go to j, to jujitsu and you start to realize mom and dad didn't really know everything. They were kind of dumb and some shit. But now I'm training, this guy's a lawyer, he's going to give me advice. Oh, this guy is a contractor. No, no, you don't want to do that, you want to do this. So I've branched out and met different people, even in UPS. I think we do that with customers and stuff like that. It's like no, I know a guy, I deliver him, he does this and he can help me there. I think expanding horizons is helping and a lot of people get so narrow-minded and just doing what their parents said is right and wrong, whether it's politically, whether it's whatever that we got to be more open to being better people, better humans.
Speaker 6:I can agree with that.
Speaker 4:All right, you ready, you prepared. What's that? You ready Because it's happening. You can ask him.
Speaker 6:I didn't think y'all was going to ask him baby.
Speaker 4:We always ask. I told him to be prepared.
Speaker 6:I didn't know if he was going to ask him. I said are?
Speaker 1:they going to ask him?
Speaker 4:It's going to be not fucking cool.
Speaker 1:Let's go. I'm panicking.
Speaker 4:What is your top five dead or alive MCs?
Speaker 1:Hold on. Are you going to order or no order? No order, okay, like I said, your boy had a 2009 Tahoe with 212. So I like the South shit. So I would fuck with Lil Wayne a lot. When I was single, I would fuck with lil wayne a lot and, uh, when I was single, I thought I would fuck with dmx. Um, I liked uh, of course I like some some nwa pock stuff. Um, that's two people and away. I know it's too okay, nwa are you.
Speaker 6:The.
Speaker 1:Chronic. The first album was good.
Speaker 6:And then are we saying NWA and Pac.
Speaker 1:Yes, nwa, eazy-e, dr Dre, ice Cube, their own little thing. Pac was by himself. Okay, my man. And then right now, I think my favorite guy right now is 21 Savage. He's probably my favorite guy to listen to.
Speaker 6:Oh, I like him a lot so 21.
Speaker 5:Does he do?
Speaker 1:something for you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean 21.
Speaker 1:Do your thing 21. And you went to the East Coast shit he was bringing that gay shit up. No, he doesn't what do you guys think about Kanye sucking cock?
Speaker 6:My God.
Speaker 1:Well, let me tell you what's up. Hey, what is going on.
Speaker 3:I have no problem with people doing what they want to do I need more content, because I can't figure out if he was a predator, or if he was the prey, and so I need more content.
Speaker 6:He should have gave us a longer song because I need more information.
Speaker 1:Do you think the song went through? The wire came out. Do you think, uh, his cousin was pissed that his, his mouth got wired shut.
Speaker 6:I I'd be fucking damn.
Speaker 5:Apparently there's another story on why his mouth was wired shut.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to figure it out, wasn't the crash.
Speaker 5:No, there's apparently another story that we don't know about, and I want to find out what it might be related to.
Speaker 6:But in all seriousness, I do think him revealing that kind of gave some insight into some of his mental health, because for sure he, he packing a lot baby and he's starting to unpack on us and now it's making me be like, oh okay, this explains some of the things that you say you've been carrying a lot for a long time. I walked out in a black klansman outfit yeah, yeah, I knew that, I knew before that. But that was that there had me like oh okay, nigga, you got a lot going on.
Speaker 5:He crazy. He trying to do what Kevin Spacey did.
Speaker 6:I think he, but I've always thought that. I've always thought that Kanye carried a lot of trauma with him and he didn't really heal and he's just. This is his expression of his trauma.
Speaker 3:He's still dealing with his mama.
Speaker 6:He's definitely still dealing with his mom's death. Now we have this going on with him and he's either potentially been the predator or potentially been the prey. The way the song sounds, I feel like he might have been the predator from what he's saying, because it sounds like he was older and the cousin was little. Yeah, so, nigga, you did it, you, the predator.
Speaker 5:You should have told us Lock him up, so you nigga, you did it, you, the predator what's hard for me is lock him, the fuck up, pause, calm down, say he was the prey like. It's hard for me to feel bad for a self-proclaimed Nazi. You probably shouldn't be wearing that. If you want sympathy, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help. Claim Nazi yeah, so I'm like well, you probably shouldn't be wearing that. If you want sympathy, yeah, that's not going to help. That's not going to help.
Speaker 3:I feel like. I feel like Kanye. He's destined to lose because he's dealing with the trauma from his mom and now he also has the Kardashian curse on him. Yeah, it's a fat ass though. It was fake, don't count.
Speaker 5:They don't count, it's purchased. They do because scissors is nice. Yeah, scissors did a good job. They did a good job. Bbls don't count.
Speaker 3:I mean, it depends on how they did them, because some of these bitches look like ants.
Speaker 1:Scissors is a nice summery thing. Do dildos count?
Speaker 6:Absolutely the.
Speaker 5:BBLs count Absolutely. I like your logic.
Speaker 6:Well, oto said, you can go to Turkey and get girth, get your dick done too. You hear that, gentlemen, turkey Gobble gobble, so you can get a lace front and a.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, what are they doing in Turkey?
Speaker 4:We went off the rails.
Speaker 6:You get your teeth done in Turkey.
Speaker 4:Lace front you ever seen that clip? The passport boy front Girl.
Speaker 5:You ever seen that clip? The passport boy is going to Turkey. He ran out.
Speaker 1:I tried to ask for more. I couldn't give it. I'm done, you gotta do what the white boys do. You gotta go down there, dude First.
Speaker 5:I thought that was the Puerto Ricans.
Speaker 1:Puerto Ricans are just, you gotta be a complete player, bro.
Speaker 4:Before we head out, go ahead and let the people know your social media handles. Where they can find you.
Speaker 3:All that stuff.
Speaker 1:Guys, my name is Matt Vega At O's Nation BJJ Fastest growing jiu-jitsu page On the planet. I would say, guys, my name is Matt Vega at Oast Nation BJJ Fastest growing jiu-jitsu page on the planet. I would say, oh, it's up there. It's top five, probably Almost at 116,000 followers. So if you do follow me, thank you. I appreciate you. Follow me everywhere. Youtube, anywhere at Oast Nation BJJ is available and I appreciate you guys riding me on. It's been awesome.
Speaker 6:Yes, this has been fun.
Speaker 3:I know, we know it's early in.
Speaker 6:Thank you, this has been a blast.
Speaker 1:We do it at seven. I'm like bruh. I have to drive an hour. I was up to drive an hour and I got little kids and I'm going to wake them up.
Speaker 6:Oh man, thank you for driving. I had a great time.
Speaker 1:I love what you guys are doing. I think it's, I think it's good and I think if you keep it up, you're definitely going to make an impact in whatever space you guys are trying to get to. I really do believe that. I like the sound. I wouldn't blow smoke and say that if I didn't believe it. I have a good flow.
Speaker 6:Thank you so much.
Speaker 3:You know what Dev stopped going on smoke? She takes edibles now.
Speaker 6:No, I don't, Because the last time I took edibles I got naked. It was walking down the street on Alessandro Boulevard.
Speaker 4:She did say that, yeah.
Speaker 6:Butt-ass naked. I ain't taking no damn edibles. You thought you was on Figaro. I was fucked up.
Speaker 3:Okay, I just butt naked just if he was on softening home, I would pick your ass up.
Speaker 6:I'm trying to tell you I would have got paid they would have paid me back for the edible I never eat. No edibles, no more. What kind of weed was this? My whole, my whole coochie was out. I don't hell, no, no, no. Whoever gave you?
Speaker 1:these edibles let's, we got to get you training.
Speaker 6:What when?
Speaker 1:were you in danger?
Speaker 6:I'm telling you that was when I needed to know how to fight on my back man.
Speaker 1:Because I was outside. It sounds like you weren't trying to fight, yeah it sounds like something else was going on, titty swinging Hell.
Speaker 6:No, I ain't drinking on them animals. No, I'm good.
Speaker 4:Well, we appreciate you for being on. I think it's dope what you do. We appreciate you for being on. Uh, I think it's dope what you do. Like you said, I know you don't blow smoke because I, every time I've ever interacted with you, you've always kept it a hundred. Um, again, I wish you nothing but the best. I see that you've already are on the trajectory to be very successful. Um and again, thank you for being on here. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been an episode of Talk your Shit with Matt Baker. Appreciate you guys. Till next time.
Speaker 6:We love you peace this has been another episode of the Heavyweight Podcast. Talk your Shit. One thing about me, baby I'm showing up every week to see who coming to talk.
Speaker 2:they shit, y'all better show up with me, see you there, bye.
