The Heavyweight Podcast
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The Heavyweight Podcast
2024 - Is it the Braids?
Can a fading icon like Drake retire without leaving a lasting legacy, or is it time for him to bow out gracefully? This episode dives into 2024's cultural shifts, from Kat Williams' bold moves to Vince Staples’ groundbreaking show. We discuss Killer Mike’s Grammy win, Kanye’s independent album, and Kendrick Lamar’s surprise verse with Future. J. Cole faces pressure with My Delete Later, sparking debates on hip-hop’s top competitors. With LL Cool J’s return and mixtapes reshaping streaming, we reflect on music’s joy, culture, and the hope for fresh innovation in hip-hop.
Welcome to the Heavyweight Podcast.
Speaker 2:The message behind saying the title of the Heavyweight Podcast is to be able to say that we can weigh in on some heavy shit. What we're talking about is important from every aspect of it. It's a heavy weight. It's not just about physical weight, but the weight of things that can weigh our minds. So I think it's dope that we can have this conversation. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, this is going to be a special thing that we're going to try to do. Traditionally, this is a recap of 2024. Recap, yeah, recap, recap of 2024. So Kevin got into the group chat and was like yo, we should totally do a recap, do a recap and I was like I agree we're not gonna.
Speaker 3:We won't spend too much time on the death of Aubrey Graham huh, the death.
Speaker 2:Yes, I don't know if it's the death, it's definitely maybe the uh, the the momentum of a career being as high as it's been. But now. He need to retire at this point wow, so, um, so this is gonna be something special for you guys for the new year, going into the new year that you guys get to hear about the recap and our takes on it. I am Stutter McFly, your anti-social host, and never your favorite with these two guys.
Speaker 3:Hold on, that's not here, so I gotta say you are my favorite, mcfly.
Speaker 2:You're my favorite With these two guys.
Speaker 1:Just me. It's your boy, Molito.
Speaker 2:And I'm just me, just you, just me, we're recapping I can't the same to say. We went into the beginning of this year with kat williams coming out and changing a lot of fucking things that we now see in reality yeah what were your takes?
Speaker 3:that nigga spoke a lot of truth apparently yeah, he had a lot of hot tips like the party.
Speaker 1:You gotta tell him no yeah, yeah, did he uh, you gotta tell him no it's starting to look a lot less far-fetched. Yeah shit, you gotta tell him.
Speaker 2:No, I might not race cat so any other like no that was probably the biggest start to a year that I've seen yeah, like entertainment wise, and you're like, oh, so all these other artists and entertainers going up there with Shannon Sharp after that oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Club Shay Shay blew up. Yes, I'm a Club Shay Shay blew up. Yes, I'm a Club Shay Shay fan. Shout out to Shannon I like Shannon and Ocho I like Ocho.
Speaker 1:Ocho's hilarious. I like Ocho.
Speaker 3:Ocho's ass is funny.
Speaker 1:Shannon's. He's Shannon, but he ain't got another cat in him. Then we got no Mm-mm.
Speaker 3:What about the Miss Pat interview? Who Miss Pat? Miss Pat, yeah, you want to tell them.
Speaker 1:Nuh-uh, still an A-cat.
Speaker 2:Nah it ain't cats. He set the pace and everyone else was like, well, fuck it, if he's getting this shit off, then we have the whole Diddy thing.
Speaker 3:Right away Right away you got to tell them. Now, the crazy part about the thing is how the second the allegations came out and they dealt right on all of a sudden all these interviews. People were, yeah, I saw this. My thing is say something when you see something. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I know the the common understanding was that nigga put fear in people because of how he was operating. Even in that, whatever the shit against them was, even the fucking, the Kid Cudi shit blowing up cars blowing up cars. He put fear in people and then when the the whole cassie accusation came out, you know, he was like oh you know, I'm innocent.
Speaker 3:I would never like you guys are gonna see it and then shit, I forgot about that dumbass apology, yeah yeah that didn't age well, like a week, and then the dumbass diss record his son put out oh yeah you checked the wrong house, yeah I ain't never seen nobody snitch on themselves like that on record.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like what a start to a year.
Speaker 2:Yeah 2024 was definitely, uh, very different, yeah, to say the least. Then, uh, it says it'll be the year of what truth and enlightenment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it it sure was a lot of things yeah, a lot of truths came out and some good things came out of it, like vince staples, yeah got a show that, which to me is fucking amazing. I love vince, that that you saw the meme I shared yesterday that that's from that vince staples. Let me, let me hold a dollar nephew, that was my favorite shit.
Speaker 2:I gotta rewatch that. That's my shit. I think I've watched it four or five times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that shit's good it's like he seems like a Donald Glover Kendrick type of person where you're like, ah, this is.
Speaker 3:There's something deeper than this this nigga says that Ray J is the king of the West Coast.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've watched him dispute and you can't dispute, you can't dispute.
Speaker 2:He's got snacks.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, go test him. Yeah, go test the Norwoods.
Speaker 2:When you watch the show. One of the interesting episodes was the family reunion one right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What did you guys take on his uh, his retelling of oj simpson?
Speaker 3:I don't. I I still haven't seen the show you still haven't seen it.
Speaker 2:No, oh my god, you got something to look forward to. That show is fucking amazing.
Speaker 3:There's a character you know I have hulu with ads now, so I'll stop watching shit, because as soon as the ad play I'll be like oh, it's on Netflix.
Speaker 2:Oh is it? Yeah, I thought it was on.
Speaker 3:Hulu it's.
Speaker 2:Netflix oh shit.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'll watch it then. My bad, like I don't watch a lot of TV, kev, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's on Netflix and the OJ Simpson. They don't say it's OJ, but you know, if you start looking at shit and like he has a white Bronco, nigga, like he went to USC, if you're watching him, when he was on the grill nigga had one black glove on and it was like nigga, there's hints, so many references, yeah, and you're like, so you're trying to say your fucking uncle's anyway, but isn't the macaroni thing?
Speaker 3:the macaroni? Uh, the who made the macaroni? That all that shit's like. I did see a clip of that. Shit's funny because that's just shit in real. Hey, who made the macaroni and cheese? Because you know it's the truth. Like at black function, like you have to be, you have to. You need references to make certain dishes. You can't be in here like oh, oh no, you try to. You make that shit for your family. You don't bring that to the family get-together, you start at home where you introduce your shit to the masses.
Speaker 2:And then you have the episode with the bank robbery, the bank hike.
Speaker 3:That shit was funny because you told me about that shit, that shit was hilarious.
Speaker 2:It's crafted well. It's a very beautiful. If you haven't seen it, I really recommend it. I've watched it. It's only what six thing that I really recommend? I've watched it. It's only what? Six episodes, seven episodes. It's pretty short.
Speaker 1:I hope it gets a full run.
Speaker 3:It got renewed so I didn't know it got renewed.
Speaker 2:But it was great. It's very worth your time. You're not going to waste your time.
Speaker 1:Trust me Well I mean it's coming right away then, because if started to the top of the year, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, oh shit, I don't even think how my brain works, dumb but I just also know places like hulu and netflix have a tendency to delay shit. I'm still waiting on mo season two. Y'all if you watch that show it's not coming back it is.
Speaker 3:They got it renewed no, this is my take on everything I like. I just say it's not coming back. So when it comes back, the first season of mo was fire.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, so, um, and Toby's on that show, so I really want to support yeah, um, so we had Killer Mike swoops the Grammys yeah, that was dope, that was dope.
Speaker 1:That was dope for hip hop, because I don't think Grammys have been like that for a while, like wouldn't they pick what it would be like?
Speaker 3:what did, uh? What did kendrick say?
Speaker 1:if motherfuckers cared about their killer, mike would be platinum yeah, this, this is this was the year, seems that way. And then he got arrested.
Speaker 3:I forgot about that he got arrested on some bullshit, too. That was some bullshit.
Speaker 1:He was happy about it, though, yeah he's like hey, sometimes you just gotta do some good shit yeah I don't.
Speaker 3:I fuck with Killer Mike, heavy man like I. It's not even. It's more about like it's more than just the rapper, like what he does in this community and how he tries to help people, especially our people like I. I don't see how anybody, how you, not support Killer Mike and that's not act like that. That Run the Jewels album was that two years ago.
Speaker 3:That shit was fire I fuck it around the jewels that shit was fire that, ooh la la was my shit for the longest time yeah, you think we'll pull up a work on here bumming through the corner ooh, la, la, ah, wee, wee like that shit.
Speaker 2:That shit was my, that was my shit, all right. Um then we had major releases. Uh, schoolboy Q came out with album. I know you said you it wasn't your it wasn't.
Speaker 3:It wasn't my favorite. I fuck with schoolboy too.
Speaker 1:I take a while off though, yeah, so I mean it was nice to hear him.
Speaker 3:I, I, I, I. It wasn't, it wasn't, it didn, it wasn't like a crash.
Speaker 1:Talk to me. 21 Savage came out too. Which one would you rather have?
Speaker 3:School Boy. I don't fuck with 21 Savage School Boy.
Speaker 2:And then you had Vultures come out.
Speaker 1:Vultures, vultures. Beautiful young, you know yeah.
Speaker 2:Beautiful big titty woman. Just don't fall out the sky.
Speaker 3:Is that the Kanye album? Yeah, that's the only thing. I only know that because you kept saying that shit.
Speaker 2:That shit's catchy, you know that shit. Don't fall out the sky, you know.
Speaker 1:The thing I liked about that is was it didn't he do that himself? Independent?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they tried to block that motherfucker from he used to like he literally bought an ad and he did that shit on an iPhone and said he reported a video.
Speaker 3:He reported a video on the iPhone. He paid for the for the Super Bowl ad and then he actually sold a lot of goddamn records, yeah he was number one.
Speaker 1:That shit was crazy. That's the good part about that release, where you're like that was cool, but like, yeah, you gotta still make. You gotta make some music again, dog like no, don't don't do it.
Speaker 3:No, you don't want him to be good again.
Speaker 2:No, he's out of touch, okay okay gotcha and then, with the end of last year, we got uh first person shooter, and then we fast forward into 2024 and then somebody just popped out and showed niggas and had a verse, a very memorable verse on Like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, out of nowhere.
Speaker 2:And it was. It changed the whole.
Speaker 3:The thing about Like that is that the way he started the verse. Let you know niggas talking off they neck Like nigga okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was at work and I was just like I'm gonna listen to this future album. I don't know why. I ain't nothing else to do, I don't really listen to future like that and then that song came out. I was like this beat is crazy. And then I was like wait, rewind, that Is that Kendrick. Like that's Kendrick? Oh he's, he's talking shit.
Speaker 3:And then, and then you proceeded to descend into everybody in the group, I mean nigga bum.
Speaker 2:You could use the nigga bum drop. This became. We use that shit on there a lot, and then oh, so so that shit.
Speaker 2:That's. The dope thing about Kendrick, though, is, um, he doesn't just make dope music, he makes uh things that we end up using as like sayings or slogans. Oh yeah, so that's what makes it even dope, and it has more staying power, because it's not just, oh, he said a dope verse, but, like the ad-libs, the ad-libs would get you like, oh, nigga bump, uh, is it the braids? What is like? Yeah, so I was like we saw that. Then, you know, we waited a while. We waited a while. What was it? A month, two months for what? For? For the responses? Was it a while?
Speaker 1:it was a while for oh, it was a while. Huh, yeah, because remember the Drake was like oh, I got to get off a tour before I. He did all that bullshit and then you know what I got to do. I'm going to go right and we're like all right, cool.
Speaker 2:So yeah, then they wait a while. Fucking. J Cole comes with my Delete Later.
Speaker 3:Yes, that seven minute, which I thought I know you said you liked. I thought my delete deliver was the subpar and I felt like I felt like I had high expectations for my delete later because I felt like the offseason was trash. It was really offseason, was really let down.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing about. It was really let down for me, j Cole for me.
Speaker 3:Right season was a really let down. Here's the thing about. It was a really let down for me, j cole, for me, right I think.
Speaker 2:Yes, he's had these very, very, very dope strong verses. The problem is his features are killing it and, and the thing is, I think he got so in his rappity rapper bag that it's tucking away from the um the concept yeah, like, because if you listen to the warm-up, uh, friday night lights, forest hills, drive.
Speaker 2:This is supposed to be, you know, pre I'm at my best lyrical, still sharpening, still moment. But to me those songs and offerings are way stronger than anything I heard on the off season or on Mike Dilley later. Yeah, you're coming lyrically, paws. Oh yeah, but you're not. It's not. It's not like punching through to make me feel like these offerings are better.
Speaker 3:I agree. Now when I say offseason was trash, I'm not saying I'm saying it to what I expected, right, I was expecting some Forest Hill Drive drive kod type verses and songs. I felt like, for me personally, on the off season there's only like three or four songs I really rock with my delete. Later, I think may had three songs I rock with and that seven minute drill shit was trash. It was trash because I didn't I would. I was like I he can't believe what he's rapping, because I don't believe what he's rapping he's like l believe what he's rapping.
Speaker 1:He's like Lester. He's like Lester.
Speaker 3:But Cole is that guy. What gets me about Cole too?
Speaker 2:he tends to do and I pointed it out on, and they pointed it out on Joe Budden Podcast the forcing of certain things to work and it don't work. Deadly, deadly, yeah. The forcing of certain things to work and it don't work, deadly, deadly, yeah. And you're like dude, you force that to fit so it could fit the rhyme scheme, but no one says deadly like that. You put the added I he does dude you would.
Speaker 1:You would you say he has his moments like buster rhymes. Then, because that's what I hear when I hear you guys saying that, like how buster rhymes, he has his moments like Busta Rhymes. Then, because that's what I hear when I hear you guys saying that, like how Busta Rhymes, he can feature. But sometimes when you put Busta in the studio to make an album, you're like, hey man, this shit's all over the place, brother.
Speaker 3:I like. For me, my best Busta Rhymes album is when he goes in, when he's the dragon, like when he does his shit with Q-Tip and he's a dragon and Q-Tip is an ass dragon. When Buster's the dragon, he be coming off. I'll be like this is the Buster I need. But when I hear a solo part I'm like where the dragon at.
Speaker 2:Where the dragon. I think the resurgence of Buster Rhymes came out with that, Chris Brown. Look at me now shit yeah. Every time I heard him rap fast, it sounded like the same exact verse. And then the thing is when you hear it, it's the same pattern. It's the same pattern, then he's using the same words to describe, and it's like is it really that impressive? You go every time.
Speaker 1:I got to get it and I got to. Now, since he started getting, they were like man that chris brown check hit.
Speaker 3:He said I'm rapping like this for now, because it's all, it's all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the same shit and then he always says every time. I don't know. He says every time and I gotta air anytime. Listen, anybody listening to shit? Go back to listen any fast buster ryan's verse. He's gonna say every time and he's going to say I got it. And then he's going to try to stretch it out to make it so like he said a lot of shit and he's really going like it's this has nothing to do with the recap, but Busy Bone is the best fast rapper of all time.
Speaker 2:I agree, I agree. And then you got Twista. I won't argue.
Speaker 1:And Busy Bone might be my favorite, like internet character. He's not a character he's himself yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a trip. I was talking to coworkers last week and they were talking about the Crush Groove and they were like why is it? It seemed like Crush Groove is the only time you can get all the Bone Thug members together. Like people were like man, I'm trying to see all of Bone and they'll go watch them, and it'll only be three of them. Or looking for wish they look always looking for busy that nigga, never like that nigga's known for not showing up. No one's looking for wish, then you can stay home. Um, because, like again, I always say this, I stress it ain't no one ever said man, I can't wait for that wishbone album and, if wish, when you're gonna drop out.
Speaker 1:If wishing big boy, come out together boy that, no, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that because at least big boy can stay on the song like when I hear wish. Most of the time I'm like we could have. We could have saved some time. He's just the homie in the studio. He could have just been in the studio dapping up anyway sorry, wish give them something to remember.
Speaker 2:Uncle charles, I wish we don't have uncle charles, though he made them that's. That's the uh originator of making shit fit like fuck jay cole, that's where you got it from, anyway. Um, so cassie releases the video.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was and that pissed me off. Pissed that, pissed me off. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then, you know, Diddy came back and had that fake ass. Apology shit. Bitch man, when you know for a fact. You just said you know when you were innocent and it's like dude you can't go from screaming innocence to when you get found out. Now you want to.
Speaker 1:But Beyonce did some shit too.
Speaker 2:Cowboy that was gonna do bigger than than it did. She wanted to do country, and so why people didn't want her doing country?
Speaker 1:shout out, yeah shibuzy stomped on her shit.
Speaker 3:It was like hey, sorry and uh, what's the chick named taylor swift? No, the other black one. Black one one, the Baka Bonnie chick, or her cute ass. Maybe Beyonce helped that. Maybe she helped that she was doing Country before.
Speaker 1:Beyonce, I know, but you know, pushing it to the light Cause some people Are anti-Beyonce period, so they'll be like I'll go listen to the real country music Like cool Thanks, maybe it did what it's supposed to.
Speaker 2:I don't know or do you want to talk about Gunna's release?
Speaker 1:Gunna Gunna how he got out. Yeah, do you want to talk about Gunna's release? All right, you're like that's some bullshit. Fuck all that bullshit.
Speaker 2:That's the last shit that happened in 2024. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Hey, I don't mind, I'm just throwing shit out. Hey, I just know he's free.
Speaker 2:So we talk about j cole releasing my delete later after the like that verse. Then we get to um drake coming out with drop, drop and give me 50 and then he came out with taylor made freestyle, which was trash and then the whole internet's like a whole.
Speaker 3:Where's king kendrick?
Speaker 2:it's not gonna drop anything, kendrick's not gonna drop. Let me say this publicly.
Speaker 3:Fuck you academics, nigga. I can't stand that bitch ass. Nigga. Compromise people. Every time I hear academics in mall talk, I'll be like man Drake keep his dick in your mouth compromise.
Speaker 2:I don't know what level of vagina he is supplying you or what money he is he is. He's plugging into your account, but damn you got if you're going to be in this the nigga went on a tour to convince people that drake was winning the battle so here's my thing.
Speaker 1:When maul is the interesting one to me, though, because his family is in the music industry, so I'm how did you allow yourself to get?
Speaker 2:compromised like this. Because it's weird to see. Because if you're going to do the music journalism platform, whatever basis you have to, that's why I say I respect Joe Budden to at least to the sense of saying y'all ain't going to sway me on this. This is just my take on it, as opposed to saying you're clearly biased in this and it's evident you're biased in this. It's, it's fucking crazy. I couldn't I can't even watch rory and mob just off that premise like you can't be that biased and expect people to take your, your journalistic outtake on something serious. Um, so anyway, he releases that kindred comes with euphoria.
Speaker 2:I remember, uh, this nigga is in the truck, we're at work and he goes. Nigga Kendrick just dropped. I said what he said. I'll call you back. I said, ok, we listened to that shit. It's fucking crazy. But I remember I couldn't get over it. I think they re-uploaded it Because I remember the original one I had when I listened to it. It didn't sound like it was mixed the right way and I kept telling you it doesn't sound mixed Right.
Speaker 2:And then then it came back out. Now it hits, but like originally it didn't. It's felt like they put out a like the un, whatever mastered version, I don't know. But when I heard it and it's right, right, that song changed everything and you were saying before we started recording, like how people switch. I remember that with that song oh no, that song was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a problem because people I remember when it initially released people like we waited all along for this and I was like dude, not trying to make the song sound like. Trying to make the song sound like it was trash and then within a couple of weeks got another one.
Speaker 2:What is it? Is it the braids? You got people using every fucking ad lib in that to make videos for tiktok. Then on top of that, kendrick uh releases the the for the right, the right, so people could actually make money off of it like it was. It was a genius move. It's strategic. He was playing chess when everybody's playing Scrabble.
Speaker 1:Nah, that's no Hell. No, that's too smart, you thinking people can spell.
Speaker 3:I kept telling people. I said man, look with Euphoria and with 616 and especially with Meet the meet the grams. If you just listen to his tone, like this nigga is rapping calmly. Yeah, like nigga, you don't want this the whole time that's supposedly he didn't turn up.
Speaker 2:He didn't really turn up until not like us that's supposedly what happened with, uh, the reason why he has that, that nonchalant view on his videos. It's supposedly like you're supposed to stare down the op. You look down the op, so every time you see him and he's acting like it's nothing, he's supposed to be staring down Drake. This is nothing for me.
Speaker 3:I said Drake over here dancing and he trying to flash, and you're like these super, these superpowers yeah, with the poker face like he's, he's keeping his poker face that's why he's not. I'm not phased by nothing.
Speaker 2:You're doing like yeah, even though and that's and that's squabble video. When he said, bro, do you want? And he did that his eye roll like, like I have that this shit is sinister nigga. Like that eye roll is so simplistic but it's, it's so impactful. Like bro do you want to go? And he look rose's eyes.
Speaker 3:I'm like bro I believe that we're gonna get the shots and little subtle. I don't. This shit's not gonna end. I feel like there's gonna be in the, because I I do subscribe to the whole theory that gmx is not the album and we got another album coming. I do believe that's happening and I do think there's going to be more golden nuggets in that album as well.
Speaker 1:Now Gen X is for sure. The album is just going to be a deluxe.
Speaker 3:You think so?
Speaker 1:Hell yeah the amount of money they put into a stadium.
Speaker 2:Tour yeah, stadium More money, so we got ahead of ourselves, so we said before it came out then 616.
Speaker 2:I remember 616 coming out and I told you it's my favorite song of the whole beef. But I remember being up early in the morning because some bullshit was happening and I couldn't sleep. And I'm sitting there and I'm laying in bed and I look at my phone and I go and I'm like fucking Kendrick, I'm like what. So I look and I listen to a song on his Instagram and then I tell you I said man, that fucking shit's crazy. You're like no right, you're four. I said nah, nigga, he dropped again and you were like wait, what he's like, I'll hit you back up, I'm going to call you right back.
Speaker 2:I got to hit this right now so 616 in LA drops, which was a warning to meet the grams, which I feel like whatever is being said has to be true, because the shit that was being said it was like hey, bro, you really don't want to go down this path. You ever thought about this? You ever thought like the people around you, it's like nigga, like he was fucking.
Speaker 3:I'm saying he's playing chess from there playing, you know singing to you at the beginning of the second no, he's not just saying that, he's asking god for forgiveness I think somebody when a nigga starts asking god for forgiveness, like, hey man, I'm about to do some shit and that's what makes reincarnated such a dope fucking song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you think of the timeline, that shit come on bro, this nigga god damn, I think somebody like it's like dude, he's singing the like god, like it's like, come on, all right, so fast forward to the same day, friday night drake. I don't know why drake didn't let that nigga break this nigga Drake releases Family Matters.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure he's feeling himself like this nigga gonna take forever. What was that? He already responded back and it's called Meet the Grams. But, nigga, I just released Family Matters. How would he know to call it Meet the Grams if I just released Family Matters at that point? It didn't make you go, nigga. I think I got a leak, nope so the the for.
Speaker 3:For me, the highlight of that shit is when you listen to uh, jason martin, how long the fuck problem problem yeah uh, but he was like uh, he said I was texting, um, he was talking or texting the dot. He was like hey, nigga drop. And he was like oh, should I drop something right now? He said yeah, yeah, he said okay, hold on he said. He said nigga, literally 13 minutes later, meet the Gramps was.
Speaker 2:I remember that feeling. Do y'all remember that feeling when you were like, wait a minute, he just released.
Speaker 1:Like I, remember watching streamers.
Speaker 2:That was the best, like yeah, that was everybody was fucked up, academics especially, because he was like what the fuck like? He was mad, like yeah, and then he just did that whole this is my goat and he was crying shit. Oh my god, that was priceless. Well, he was crying he was crying, he was crying he was like this is my goat, when family matters dropped and then as soon as he's like wait, what you mean, kinder? Dropped again. What the fuck, what the like? And you could tell like that nigga's really the boogeyman.
Speaker 3:He looks spooked that was a master class of taking the air out the room yeah, how old is academics?
Speaker 1:old enough to still have dick in his mouth okay, so you're right, that was a master class on how to.
Speaker 2:So that happens. The summer was lit. I just remember thinking. I was excited because there was so many people saying Kendrick ain't gonna do this. And now Kendrick has the one up and he didn't even give him time to let people digest Family Matters. Then the next day, what happens?
Speaker 3:Car Park 6?.
Speaker 2:We were sitting there talking because we were trying to go live and I was like I think he's going to drop something else, and then, sure enough, no, not like us.
Speaker 3:Would Drake drop Hard Park Six? No, it was not like us.
Speaker 2:So not like us dropped. I'm like nigga, this is the victory lap.
Speaker 1:He stopped them out. I was in Vegas when that dropped Nigga. Everywhere I went, boom, boom, boom. I was like what the Boom, boom, boom this?
Speaker 3:song came out 15 minutes ago. To this day, my daughter she don't know the words, but she be doing her best.
Speaker 2:That's her favorite shit, but not like us. Then the hard part, six drops. I remember we were leaving work on Sunday. I remember it was a Sunday and you're like nigga, this nigga Drake just dropped. So we listened to it and called back. He was like nigga, this ain't it, like it ain't it, and he had so many. I said, dude, somebody in his camp is not looking out for him. Like the shit, like the making fun of SA, yeah, this, ain't it?
Speaker 2:Like the inconsistencies are getting wrong, the the whole bowing out like you're taking the high road, shit at the end like taylor made wasn't made and you weren't out here fucking egging them on yeah and then, and then, the instagram story of you versus 100 niggas.
Speaker 3:Come on, bro, come on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he definitely stuck to his memes. I said dude, that's his game, I guess drake. Just I, just really. Then, like I said, we're not going to skim over this, I just want to get through that. J Cole apologizes, and I remember watching that whole fucking Dreamville Fest.
Speaker 3:That's the part I wanted to. I'm sorry to cut you off. I didn't really care about Drake. I wanted to hear.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3:I wanted to know what cole and kendra I wanted to see I want to hear bars between the two.
Speaker 2:I wanted to see that I didn't really care about drake but yeah, it sucked because, yeah, I agree, I wanted to hear bars but if you watch how the whole dreamville felt, it felt off the boogeyman was definitely at play. But even this, that the audio difficulty I saw someone tick tock.
Speaker 2:I was like finally someone else says that the audio on that fucking for the second year in a row and when he got to doing his set and you could see he looked shook, he looked kind of like uneasy, and then he finally got to the apology and it changed the the whole view of what, because we were all waiting for the fall off and all this shit. And then just it changed the energy. Like I was like this nigga's really a boogeyman. He changed the entire energy of what we saw of the other supposed big three. I will say he's kind of bounced back a little bit if you see what he did to the tail end of the year.
Speaker 3:But that's what I was going to ask you. Do we give Kendrick credit for getting the mixtapes on streaming? No, because you think that would have happened off the desk.
Speaker 2:I think he planned on all that shit, he might be yeah.
Speaker 3:I think he.
Speaker 1:And hold on.
Speaker 3:So that's probably why he backed sounds better than what was released on streaming, because I listened to the streamer and I was like they don't sound the same as the one I have.
Speaker 2:You're talking about like the mixing yeah.
Speaker 3:I feel like the original one, the original mixtape they released. I feel like that sounds better than what was released on Apple.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have to re-listen, Because I just, even though it was on there, I listened to my version and it like what's weird is that it morphed so like when. I play it. It it plays in a duplicate, so it'll play the one, the iTunes version, then my, the one in my playlist, and then it'll play like back and forth.
Speaker 3:Mine has a. Mine has the my version under compilations, not album. So it's different, it's separated.
Speaker 2:I it could on iTunes, but we go to that. Then we get to the LL Cool J comes out with some shit.
Speaker 3:Did y'all listen to that shit?
Speaker 2:I listened to it.
Speaker 1:It's not bad.
Speaker 3:The niggas fit. I look here. The same way I felt about when you sent me that. I said I'm not listening to these grandpas, no more, okay, him and them did some good shit.
Speaker 2:I don't like that. I enjoyed that. I do listen to M I don't like that, though.
Speaker 3:That's fucked up. I do listen to M, though that's.
Speaker 2:Do you think LL wrote it, though? What his, the him and M thing especially.
Speaker 1:I do. I've heard to take that them and get them.
Speaker 2:I can see that Because M idolizes that fool and he's probably like I could eat this nigga right now L claimed they were literally writing on the spot, supposedly like he would try to like, he'd hear what he'd come up with and he'd come back and then.
Speaker 3:Oh, L lies though.
Speaker 1:I think he'd be lying.
Speaker 3:Was that in between scenes of his show? Is he still acting? It's not bad man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think it's bad.
Speaker 1:Why don't you want to give the older guys no love? I listened to the Cube album.
Speaker 2:I think things get dated though. The Cube album.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was not good.
Speaker 2:I would say it was I feel like the people when we see it, they tend to do this weird thing where when you get older you get more dated. So, like L when I listen to it, though, I think he was solid, I do think it was dated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is dated. He's to his era. I mean that's why you listen to that, but I'm like we should still have that.
Speaker 2:Guns N'. Roses still can make music and I'm never not giving this credit, but I do think it's dated.
Speaker 1:He's 86.
Speaker 2:Then, but like I do think it's dated, so um he's 86 then they had drake releasing his uh, 100 gigs.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry. Yeah, drake released 100 gigs. He was forced to 100 gigs for your head tap.
Speaker 3:No, I don't think he was forced. You know he dropped it. Then they, they forced him to release it.
Speaker 1:Oh, streaming oh yeah, well I mean he was forced to, he was trying to show he was trying to clean up his image because he wanted people to like look him in a different light.
Speaker 2:Like I'm a creative, like I'm, I'm really good at this. Didn't work.
Speaker 3:Didn't work at all.
Speaker 2:No, the death of Slim Shady.
Speaker 3:I fuck with it yeah.
Speaker 2:Did you feel like that was like one of the strongest offerings in a while?
Speaker 3:I say it was up there Because I still fucking used to be murdered by. I know I'm in the majority on that, I mean the minority on that deluxe. Yeah, this I'd be especially be sorry I fuck with that, but I felt like it was solid.
Speaker 1:And he killed off Slim Shady.
Speaker 3:What kind of music. I mean, he's a grandpa now, he can't do all that. Then we got the not like us video which july 4th. That shit was damn. We not, we not even barely halfway through the year that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It's a lot pause. Um, yeah, not like us video came out, that was to me just another victory lap. The way he was reacting in the video was, um, like I said, he had the poker face. He's staring at his out with the poker face the nigga shot a video in the nickerson gardens.
Speaker 3:Nigga, I drive by there, I don't stop. I don't stop the light at the red light. You could have went that day. No, I wouldn't have gone that day either.
Speaker 2:I don't think I saw this what was that Snoop at the Olympics. Oh you don't remember.
Speaker 1:Snoop at the Olympics he was a torchbearer. Yeah, he was near the ambassador.
Speaker 2:He was everywhere. Every event, I didn't pay attention.
Speaker 3:I was like that's's dope we got hip hop at the. Olympics. So you said that and all the weed head was like, yes, we made it, we're international.
Speaker 2:I just know, when I saw Snoop, I was the only face I see of Snoop was when, when Taylor May released or dropped and he was what this like I was like man, it was the ed man, it was the edibles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was the edibles, he said so.
Speaker 2:Have you said so.
Speaker 1:That's what he said.
Speaker 2:I just know he has a history of playing both sides.
Speaker 3:It's the edibles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he got a call. They said hey, yo cuz this, ain't that.
Speaker 2:Oh, my bad. Oh okay, like I was trying to read your writing because, like I said, diddy std, I said, oh, he says arrested.
Speaker 1:Whoa, whoa, he got all of them diddy rstd.
Speaker 2:What the oh arrested? Yeah, diddy got arrested.
Speaker 1:Diddy did it. When was that that was from? He was like July-ish, september-ish.
Speaker 3:September-ish huh, I don't even think about that, nigga. He's still in jail. He went from the beginning.
Speaker 1:It took him a whole half of the year to arrest him. Now, even after the video, well, you're like well cause.
Speaker 3:The video was past the statute of limitations.
Speaker 1:True, they couldn't do shit.
Speaker 3:That was more of a character thing than an actual criminal thing.
Speaker 1:How'd you feel? Were you like, thank God, what With him getting arrested?
Speaker 2:I was like what the fuck.
Speaker 1:Piece of shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I told you I never did like Diddy. I told you I seen that thing in public In person. I remember I was trying to get my aunt had cancer at the time and I was trying to get her to one of her appointments and I remember we were waiting in fucking traffic Because I don't know if you remember that Pepsi commercial he shot for the Super Bowl that one year. He was filming that shit. So the cop was like if you like Puffy, he's up there. I said I don't give a fuck about Puffy, I'm trying to get my into the goddamn doctor. I don't give a damn about that, nigga, I'd run him over if he's in the way. I don't give a damn about that, nigga that nigga's dark.
Speaker 3:I seen that nigga that nigga darker than your sweater, kevin, you think.
Speaker 1:I'm playing. I seen that the wrong way. I thought you was talking about in jail right now.
Speaker 3:I was like I don't know they lighting them up now he in there buying dinners and shit and protecting he paying for protection yeah, for now he paying for protection right now until that money run out alrighty.
Speaker 2:Young Thug got out before him damn so, kendrick announces the Superbowl dope. Um, young Thel got up before him, damn so, uh, kendrick announces the Super Bowl dope.
Speaker 3:You catch it, the subtle shots ain't no, round twos ain't no, yeah. But I mean why double? Why should I double back? I won ain't no round twos, I took it different.
Speaker 1:I took it where he's like round one ain't never over, yeah.
Speaker 2:So fourth quarter.
Speaker 1:Is it bad we?
Speaker 2:got Lil Durk arrested. I don't care about that.
Speaker 1:I mean it's in the culture, it was in the culture. I can't care about that. I mean it's in the culture, it was in the culture.
Speaker 2:I can't All right. J Cole Port of Antonio. What the fuck? I thought I was like part of Amino. I said what the fuck is that? What Amino acid singing?
Speaker 3:The sad thing is, I haven't thought about that song since it came out Deadly. Really, I haven't listened about that port song since it came out.
Speaker 2:Deadly.
Speaker 3:Really, I haven't listened to it since then.
Speaker 2:Deadly.
Speaker 3:I thought that was part of his repairing. I still think the song. That's not the song with T-Grizzly, is it?
Speaker 2:No, that's the Port of Antonio is the one where he was like Deadly. I walked with them all. I don't know how you make those rhymes, but walked away with my friend. All their blood on me. Oh yeah, he became the gun Turns out, I'm the gun. Nigga, yeah, he's the gun, I'm the gun.
Speaker 1:Just because it don't pop you know, I thought that was part of his resurgence. Yeah.
Speaker 3:No, I don't think he was redeemed until that T-Gurzy verse.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it didn't't redeem him, but they were like all right, yeah, you were happy.
Speaker 2:I think the the strategic part that was genius was that those audios, that of of his uh, come up. I think those, yeah, did change because it gave kind of gave you an introspective look on things that might make you completely forget about any other bullshit going on, because it humanizes them. It makes you like, oh damn, that's dope, we didn't know that you were going through that. Like uh, it there's, uh, this one of the things like he tells about how he made the lights please, please song where he was high and he didn't want to waste the high, so he he wrote lights please, and lights please is what essentially got him signed. So it's like it changes. And then how he met jay-z and what he thought was going to be, it's like it's interesting because it changes.
Speaker 2:Your respect, which is what I kept saying with drake is if drake would have focused on the art and trying to let people know that, yeah, I might have lost here, but I'm still this guy like. I'm still the guy that you guys like music for it, but instead he's steered into this whole. I ain't phase, I ain't spiraling, I'm that like. It's like you can't play tough guy forever bro that's why he cut them braids off.
Speaker 3:I'm still in it, nigga he's yeah he need to go to Turkey, get the implants.
Speaker 1:That's what you're gonna see. He gonna get his hair done he gonna get the implants he gonna have a.
Speaker 2:What is it? The braids cut them off. First game, lebron is it?
Speaker 3:am I the only person? I can't even listen to Drake. No more man.
Speaker 1:I try. I can't do that. I can hey the passion fruit comes on, it's a problem.
Speaker 3:That might be the one exception.
Speaker 1:That might be the one exception. That is my shit.
Speaker 2:Young Thug gets released.
Speaker 3:Shout out I didn't know that nigga's name was Shannon.
Speaker 1:Oh, is it? He's a Shannon. That's why he's a Shannon, that's why he's so violent. You struggling, little baby, you trying, you struggling, little baby.
Speaker 3:oh, he did the harvard thing, uh oh, he wouldn't go, he wouldn't got his degree yeah yeah, shout out to little baby for that god damn man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's six. It's probably like four in the morning, maybe four.
Speaker 1:Give me four in the morning, that's three in the morning.
Speaker 2:Come on, shit start popping in my head gnx released, I get that one it might even be spell, right, yeah it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, gnx released and we were hyped about that. I remember I said this on a couple episodes ago I was in a meeting for andreas or about to go into a meeting for andreas, and I was kind of irritated because I got into an argument or whatever and I just happened to click on instagram and I saw the picture on kendrick lamar's instagram and I went to itunes. I was like I got an album to listen to and it made it changed my whole energy. And I remember driving because I had to go to the market right after, and listening to Whacked Out Murals and that whole energy was what I was on for the rest of the weekend.
Speaker 3:You're from the west but you a down south nigga. Why you always say market. You never say I go to the grocery store. I had to go to the market.
Speaker 2:I mean, I would have thought you was like Piggly Wiggly or something if I said that.
Speaker 3:Piggly, wiggly. No, I don't know. I gotta go to the market, I gotta go to the store. If I say corner store, that's like a liquor store.
Speaker 2:I'd say the market, or I'll say the specific market Wally, walmart. I know Mark feels that way. Shout out to Mark there's a story about Walmart and octopus hands or something that he thought he saw. The nigga was seeing triple octopus hands or something that he thought he saw the mega will see in triple. I said you know it's the asshole from when you think there was more people anyway. Um yeah, dnx comes out, fire, fire album the bottom top the bottom squabble up, got people and you know, they say mustard, they.
Speaker 3:They say GNX works in reverse as well. I need to try it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's.
Speaker 3:I hear people saying that they switch a lot of the songs to make it fit a certain they say it, but they say in reverse it hits different, because damn in reverse goes harder than the original order. If you play damn backwards it goes hard. So I need to do this. I need to do this Because, remember, with damn he came out and he flipped them for you so you had two to separate out. I need to do this with GMX Because this nigga, if he did this shit again, don't test this nigga.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's still even without it.
Speaker 3:Then after that we get a GNX tour stadium stadium tour with SZA, with SZA and all that ass stadium.
Speaker 1:Huh, something somebody else ain't done. I didn't realize that I thought Drake would have done a stadium tour by now. That's weird that he hadn't.
Speaker 3:It's really weird oh, he's done stadiums. He's done a stadium tour. No, but like a tour. It's weird that Universal didn't make him. I think it's hilarious that he got the Toronto stadium Twice.
Speaker 2:And then there was a rumor that Swally Drake bought all the tickets, right, and then he just goes and make it free for people, but he still keep the money. He's like I'm going to keep the Thank you. Then we get Drake petitioning Sues.
Speaker 3:Trying to sue yes, universal.
Speaker 2:This is the most bitch move. I was like every turn. I remember my cousin got into it with me because I kept saying Drake, sit your ass down somewhere. He's like man, you ain't gonna stalk on the goat like that. I'm like nigga, tell your goat to sit the fuck down somewhere. This's like man, you ain't gonna stalk on the goat like that. I'm like nigga, tell your goat to sit the fuck down somewhere. This nigga's hurting his own legacy. Just tell him to go sit down somewhere.
Speaker 3:People don't understand that you can. Drake just acknowledges you're not that nigga. Yeah, we're not taking away from the music you've made, we're not taking away from the impact you've had. Just acknowledge the fact that you're not. You're not the nigga you thought you was I gotta ask you a question what was it?
Speaker 2:you have like a piece of glitter in your face. Were you at the strip club?
Speaker 3:you probably was, or my daughter or some shit.
Speaker 2:I don't know I was. It looked like you were, just I don't know motorboating or something.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, I wish I was all right, all right.
Speaker 2:I just I figured it'd be my house was full.
Speaker 3:My house was full of glitter really.
Speaker 2:I was glitter everywhere then we just got yesterday was a SZA released the deluxe yes where there was a song 30 for 30 yes and um, I guarantee you that song's gonna get played a lot, a lot, and the holidays are here, so it's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 3:I fuck with.
Speaker 2:Sizzle. So in 2025, what do you guys hope is going to happen with your favorite artists and entertainers?
Speaker 3:I hope I get another Kendrick album, I hope we finally get the fall off Finally and I hope it's everything he's been hyping that shit up to be.
Speaker 2:I don't think it can live up to the hype. I Finally and I hope it's everything he's been hyping that shit up to be I don't think it could live up to the hype. I'm hoping.
Speaker 3:I'm a cold fan I am a cold fan.
Speaker 2:Cold world, I'm a big cold fan.
Speaker 3:I'm hoping every time this nigga drop, I'm hoping it's bars on bars that's going to make me do some shit.
Speaker 2:I personally feel.
Speaker 3:Because Kendrick done got my ass in trouble a couple of times. Every time I'll be walking listen to GMX and I'm like nigga, don't start. Oh, I'm in the suburbs so I'm safe, but I shouldn't be doing that shit everywhere.
Speaker 2:I personally feel like he has did what Dre did with detox. Too long he set for we've been. The thing is five, six, seven years he's been saying the fall off, no matter.
Speaker 3:Even if the shit's top to bottom dope, people are still going to be unimpressed because he's put so much on it what if he comes through and just has a fire feature on each track so he doesn't have to carry the load himself?
Speaker 2:I don't think he'll do it because he's taking so much pride you're gonna come on now, kenji gonna do it.
Speaker 3:Hey doc, can I get a drop nigga nah what about you?
Speaker 1:uh dot, for sure that'd be cool. Uh, go see this concert, that's gonna be fun yeah, okay um customer about that.
Speaker 2:He's like there's a dope did you go like?
Speaker 1:this you went like this I think I'm hoping that it's better for hip hop releases, Cause I think that's why I put a lot of that shit. If you notice like a lot of the releases were like old motherfuckers yeah Dre and Snoop, missionary it's all right, but I'm saying like if you notice what hip hop big deals were were legacy X.
Speaker 2:He doesn't like the song Knockout. I thought it was dope.
Speaker 1:I didn't think it was a bad album you didn't like it at all.
Speaker 3:I just said. Neither one of these niggas wrote any of this shit.
Speaker 1:Well, that's, that's what.
Speaker 3:I said I'm actually hoping in line with what you're saying with the Legacy X. That's what I said. I'm actually hoping in line with what you're saying with the Legacy X.
Speaker 2:I'm hoping possibly might get a couple Jay-Z.
Speaker 3:Jay-Z, that's mine, that's my hope. Maybe a three-pack it ain't got to be a whole album Maybe a three-pack.
Speaker 2:I want an album bro.
Speaker 3:Hey man, look, I've been saying a McFly album for a long time and he drops a song here and there. So if I get a J3 pack, I don't know. I mean, he didn't write shit down, I'm curious.
Speaker 1:I'm curious. Depends on how the year starts, huh, if these young whippersnappers dust up, hov might get hit at the end of the year, like.
Speaker 3:I forgot. Well, I mean I rapping, because you know, in about 10 years sir is going to come out with his diss track the hove, because I feel like all rappers, kids have a diss song I mean, and then we also got to remember he's about to be, he's going to be pushing 60 at that point yeah, sir, angle care yeah, he might own a country by then even my daddy called me sir watch oh, the super bowl too, I'm excited for.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yeah, I think this is the too.
Speaker 3:I'm excited for it, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I think this is the most exciting. I'm excited for that. I'm excited for the halftime show. I don't know about the game yet. That's what I mean.
Speaker 3:Now, if my team's in the game. I'm excited for the game. It's your boy.
Speaker 2:I ain't got time for bars, I got too much politics. Sorry sir, sorry sir, I can't respond.
Speaker 1:I'll be dealing with a lot of shit. It's like what the fuck? Like? Somebody said I sounded like jay-z talking to graceland on that video I put on a tiktok.
Speaker 2:No, you sound a jay-z album um no nods no, uh, kendrick, I would like to see the fall off finally. I'm getting tired of hearing about it. I want to actually hear like and there's been a lot of dope songs he's hinted to in like videos but never ever actually heard kind to light can I say one more thing?
Speaker 3:I want a revenge of the dreamers 4 this year because we didn't get a revenge. We didn't get one this year that's the whole label, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, I don't want it um come on, man, anyway, shout out to JID Boz.
Speaker 3:Earth Gang.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So a Jay-Z album, a Kendrick album, a J Cole album, I don't even mind a JID album. The rest of you niggas can hang it up.
Speaker 3:Jay Electronica.
Speaker 2:Anyway, if it gets some J-versus, sure, Joe Budden, I would not be opposed to a Joe Budden album. But I really doubt that ever is happening.
Speaker 1:The reason I am is because that nigga is going to be like $2,000. You know, like Joe Nigga.
Speaker 3:Because this shit ain't going to be on streaming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's going to charge Patreon, he's like what did that inevitable do?
Speaker 2:Okay, but yeah, that's all I want, honestly, the Jay album. You may get an album from me, but I don't like deadlines.
Speaker 1:My birthday's in May. I wonder if we get one.
Speaker 2:From who?
Speaker 1:With Jay, with all this shit happening.
Speaker 2:I hope so. They say he always releases around.
Speaker 3:when Nas releases, I said I don't know, I wouldn't mind a Royce album.
Speaker 1:You know what I was thinking when you guys were talking. I was like I wouldn't mind seeing Bad Meets Evil again.
Speaker 2:Him and Royce yeah.
Speaker 1:Then they get together. It's fun.
Speaker 3:Just don't put Bizarre on those songs, please.
Speaker 2:Unless it's with the intention of being funny. Don't put that nigga on nothing but that's it, I guess, uh, but I guess this has been a very special recap um of 2024 and hopefully we we didn't recap the pod we got.
Speaker 3:We had a dance.
Speaker 2:She's not here today so we're I guess we're recapping the pod as well. I thought we were just doing a recap and like music and entertainment, but the whole pot.
Speaker 3:We had a dance.
Speaker 2:That's part of the show yeah, she is part of the show. I mean because I think what one of the episodes was talking about anyway, yeah, uh. So, yeah, uh, we re-added Des and I think that's a dope addition to the pod, and we also lost some members, but all well, we still wish everyone the best and, hopefully, nothing but best. Moving forward, I think this podcast is going to grow to be very, very successful. Grow to be very, very successful and, with that being said, I wish everybody has a great 2025 and years ahead, and hopefully, everything that you want and that you aspire for happens. And keep pushing for your dreams and beliefs. And to the next episode, since this isn't one yet. To the next episode, since this isn't one yet. Enjoy, have fun, be safe, don't do too many crazy drugs or drink too much, and whatever you do on New Year's, just be safe. That's all I ask.
Speaker 3:Until next time and fuck you, Joe Patino.
Speaker 1:We'll see you next year.
Speaker 2:See you next year. See you next year.
Speaker 1:Well, that's a wrap y'all. That's how she wrote, so make sure you click like subscribe. Tune in. We're on the Austrian platform, so until next time we'll highlight you.
