The Heavyweight Podcast
Welcome to *The Heavyweight Podcast*, where every week, a dynamic group of four—“this lady and these three guys”—come together to discuss a wide range of topics that both warm the heart and nourish the soul. The Heavyweight Podcast brings together four unique individuals, each with their own perspective, to engage in open and honest conversations about real-life situations. Whether you're in need of a good laugh to release some tension or you're seeking real answers to life’s tough questions, tune in to *The Heavyweight Podcast*. Whatever you're looking for, you’ll find it here.
The Heavyweight Podcast
Talk Yo Shit "King Dice"
What happens when a young artist turns lunch table rap battles into a thriving career? Meet King Dice, an extraordinary rapper and creative entrepreneur whose journey is nothing short of inspiring. From performing arts school to commanding stages with powerful performances, King Dice shares the moments that sparked his passion for hip-hop, revealing the artistry and impact that have shaped his career.
Transitioning from full-time musician to youth mentor, I recount the challenges and rewards of leading impactful music programs. Organizing an annual leadership camp has allowed me to empower young people—natural leaders, those at crossroads, and those yet to realize their potential. This mission, inspired by Tupac’s vision, fuels my dedication to cultivating future innovators and change-makers.
In this episode, we celebrate the profound importance of mentorship and community engagement, sharing stories of young lives transformed by guidance and support. We also explore the influence of West Coast rap on our philosophies and envision future endeavors, including potential political ventures. Join us for an episode filled with passion, purpose, and powerful stories of change.
My journey has taken me to amazing places that other people they'll struggle for or strive for their entire life and may not accomplish those things. So yeah, and I think I owe all of that to just trusting in myself and jumping in so yeah, if you want to follow in those footsteps, do it.
Speaker 2:I'm big-boned. I'm heavy-structured. I'm hung low. If I pull my shit out this whole room, do it. I'm big boned, I'm heavy structured. I'm hung low. If I pull my shit out this whole room, get dark.
Speaker 3:I'ma tuck my shit. Fat finger, let me tuck my shit. Damn right, I'm gonna tuck my shit.
Speaker 4:IE in this bitch love'm going to just bring out the backstory and we'll go from there. I remember when I first got on the scene I had a manager named james barcelou shout out to james and he had put me on uh, the scene as far as, like, uh trying to get me shows. So there was this particular show at the orange, at the orange eos pavilion, some center in san bernardino, and I just gotten off of work, I walk in, I do a set, I'm this is the first time I'm initiated to meeting cam archer. And then, after I do the set, it was raining outside and I'm approached by a couple and they say your set's dope, can we interview you now? Little did I know. It was the couple that's in this room today and uh, dice, you cannot miss dice, right? So he's a towering person. So when he goes up to me he's like man, you're, I think you're dope, can I interview? And we go and we do the, the interview, um, with laurie, and I remember thinking, okay, this is dope, I like this energy and fast forward.
Speaker 4:A little later and uh, diesel, who was our previous guest, has a song called monster mash, and he goes. Yeah, you know, I got a verse from the homies and then king dice and I said wait a minute. And I said dice raps. So I listened to the verse. I'm like no, he didn't rap, he bodied the fucking verse. And I was like when, when, when is anybody gonna tell me this shit? Right? So in in that instance, he became one of my favorite artists.
Speaker 4:Period, because the word, structure, the voice is very powering, it catches your ear instantly. So he became instantly one of my favorite artists. Period, not just an IE, but period. To have him here, to be able to talk his shit and and see that the ability from, not just from a rapping perspective, but from a creative entrepreneur, and, uh, the beats, the, everything I just wanted to be able to bring him here and and this is very, very, very special for me uh, this man is not just dope in the sense of music, but even helping this community. Ladies and gentlemen, I give to you this talk your shit episode with king motherfucking dice. Put some respect on his name. How are you doing this morning?
Speaker 1:I'm doing good, that's a hell of an intro I try to, I try to like.
Speaker 4:I'm sitting there, you understand. I was in the mirror trying to say how can I hype this episode up? And, like I did this countless times, man, like I said, just like to be able to give you your flowers, bro. So I said, this means a lot to me that you're here, man.
Speaker 1:Man, it means a lot to be here and I appreciate that those are a lot of kind words and, man, those were some great memories.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, I remember that. I remember like and the thing is, that night when I saw you behind the camera when Lori was asking the questions, you had this like energy. You could tell you love this, Like it's not something where you're just doing this for the gimmick or the clout, you literally have a love for it. So when you see that smile instantly come across your face, it makes you feel welcome. You know what I'm saying, so I never forget that. And you, you still have that smile. So I like, I like you know what I'm saying, so, um, yeah, so when did you know you wanted to do music?
Speaker 1:man. Um, you know it's funny. I was thinking about this and uh, I would have to say, like elementary school, I went to this like gifted and talented education program and it was a lot like it was just a school for performing arts, right? So in this school everyone has to sing, everyone has to dance, we learn ballet, we play keyboard, we're doing all the arts you know, graphic art, painting, so it's like this advanced curriculum and I started off singing and then puberty hit and my voice did not keep up. I could not sing anymore. Those notes started hitting a little funny. So I kind of left music behind for a little bit. But then I want to say, maybe high school, you know, hip hop just kept calling me, you know, kept calling me and started off at the lunch tables. We just would battle all the time. Some of my best friends I met, you know, through battling. I mean shout out, shout out to Homie SoCal Sinatra.
Speaker 4:Shout out.
Speaker 1:And yeah, that's, that's when I for sure was like, was like, okay, so music is still going to be a part of my life, it's just not going to be the way it was. And yeah, I picked up the mic and never put it down.
Speaker 4:Really that's what's up. That's what's up, that's what's up. So when did you know you wanted to like, like, you're, like I'm, that I'm an mc like this is for sure my aunt, because I'm telling you, when I heard that monster mass verse, I was like this nigga bodied that shit oh man, um, you know I started off on the block right there's a lot, of, a lot of the big homies.
Speaker 1:We would just listen to whatever. Whatever will come on, we start putting our ourself, you know, our group, our click in in the music, right. So it's like, uh, stoop dog would say two, one, three. We would say two, one, two, and we would just make our own little versions of us, put our names in it, and eventually I was like, oh, I think I could record this. And I started teaching myself how to engineer, started learning how to make beats, and this was really just to impress the girls, you know. I mean. So, like we're riding around in the car, we're not putting on the new snoop, or we're not putting on the new 50 cent, we're putting on like us it was like, oh, who is this?
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh, girl, this is this is us that's the homies.
Speaker 1:Um, and then, yeah, sooner, sooner rather than later, I started taking it kind of serious. The homes were like, oh man, like that little remix you did was? That was pretty cool. Man, you should like think about doing something original. And I want to say I tried to do my first project. Actually, my first project was homework. It was, uh, I, I went to Valley View out in MoVal and we had this like senior project where we were supposed to put all this effort into this huge project that lasted the whole year and at the end of the year, yeah, the project I came up with was a, was a CD, and it was my first project and no one will ever hear that it was horrible, it was not good.
Speaker 1:So it's about the growth right.
Speaker 4:Definitely a lot of growth involved so I know you said that essentially getting the woman to notice was a of a driving factor, but when you became like because to me, not only in emceeing, you're one of my favorite producers that I hear. So what is the passion behind? Like your structure and producing and engineering?
Speaker 1:man, uh, I. I want to say it probably came out of like not being able to get beats from other people. Um, really just wanted to teach myself something doing doing what I thought was dope um, and eventually I just, yeah, I got sort of good at it. I want to say like my first real, like real amazing beat was probably like Yahtzee.
Speaker 4:That's a classic. Thank you, check it out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a mentor of mine, you know 3D Beats. He was in this, the IE hip hop scene before me. I want to say we were kind of just messing around. I don't even remember exactly how it started, but like someone had some sort of board game reference and they said it like in a way where it was like a celebratory thing. I was like I'm gonna have my own. We played around with like Jumanji and I was like, oh, the Yahtzee, and 3 was like that's it, that's the one. And then I remember I just told this story to my wife yesterday.
Speaker 1:I was driving home listening to NPR and they're doing some kind of story on like a celloist and I hear this like they played a clip of her playing like a symphony or something. And I hear it and I was like, oh my God, this is amazing. I'm trying to grab my phone. This is like Shazam days, right, where I'm like, oh, I don't know the name of this song. I'm trying to scramble to get my phone so I can Shazam it and find out what song this is. I'm like please don't end, please don't end. And I get like a little clip of it. I take it home, found out celloist and yeah, I hear that clip and I just knew like instantly, knew like oh, this is the one, and it sort of helped me understand like I could really do this and started taking it really seriously.
Speaker 4:That's what's up. So I tend to do this, I tend to venture off. I have questions on the page and I just start asking questions because, um, what was dope when we would work with each other and I would be able to sit in sessions with you? I would like to pick your brain for shit. So you're one of the few where I like man, like how's his brain wired? So when you, you would say certain things like I remember I can't remember what song we were working on, but you had said like I is, like I remember I can't remember what song we were working on, but you had said like I, I took that, that rhyme scheme from j cole on, uh, mr nice watch. And I was like how the fuck does your brain pick up on that? Because you'll tell me now you want to do an extra this. How's your brain work? Like, like to just instantly catch that man, that's you know what.
Speaker 1:So, uh, like when you hoop, right like when you're playing basketball at least the way that I learned uh, someone told me like you gotta envision the shot going in, right, right. So it's like I, literally you know, I used to be a nice shooter, you know I'm saying people expect me to be a center because I'm tall. But uh, like, I, I see this invisible track in the air and I just see it going in. I'm like, if I keep the ball on this invisible, it will go in, right. So it's similar to that, like when I'm making music, it's almost like as soon as I start to hear it, I, I hear like a finished product and it's just a matter of plugging things in right. I'm like, okay, we're, we're, we're moving on this, this section here where the verse is really it's, it's moving in the right direction. We just need these ad-libs right here. I could just hear it before we're even making.
Speaker 4:Um, I don't know if that makes sense it makes sense because you're a creative and like you're a genius level creative to me, like because we would, we would work on things and you would say things. And I'm like how the fuck does his brain already compute that before we're even like, we're not even like 20% creative, and then you're already having in your mind what it's going to sound like. You're like you should do this, or if it would be dope if you did this. So there'll be a lot of projects like ah fuck, what song was that Shit? Even um study McFly. And when you, when you were, uh, engineering that, you were like at this, at that, then like it would come out. You're like how the fuck did you already think about that before? And it would be something subtle. Yeah, it was something subtle, but you make it sound so much more dope and you add layers to it, which is is a beautiful thing that song is fire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, listen to that song.
Speaker 4:I just know, as a you're, to me it's genius level work and I don't think people give you enough flowers because that shit's fucking crazy. I, I don't know. Anyway, I I guess that I tend to go off track, but let me get back. Um, so even with that, the thing that I think is dope about you and a lot of the people that I bring on, uh, you don't just allow things to stop. You kind of transition that into something else. So I see that you do a lot of stuff with your community and mentoring with the youth. So what sparked that interest and what continues to drive it?
Speaker 1:Oh man, um. So I want to say maybe 2015,. I was doing music like full time. Um, we're, we're going on tours, you know, like we're constantly hitting like Arizona South by Southwest. Um, we got like a little circuit going between, oh, here, those places also, we'd hit the Bay area, um, and I had a friend reach out who was working with um, a nonprofit in the past area, and was like, yeah, I got these kids and they're listening to Slim Jesus. I think it was Slim Jesus, you remember Slim Jesus? He was like a yeah, I got these kids and they're listening to Slim Jesus. I think it was Slim Jesus. You remember Slim Jesus?
Speaker 4:He was like a meme rapper.
Speaker 1:It's not worth remembering.
Speaker 2:It's a terrible name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, not worth remembering. But she was like they're listening to this dude, like can you come help make a music program here? And I was also in school at the time. You didn't have a degree in audio engineering and I was also in school at the time getting a degree in audio engineering. So I was like I mean, this is, I'm going to school for this. Like that, this is pretty dope to find a position in this field. Yeah, and this nonprofit kind of wrote me a blank check Like what do we need to get recording here, to start recording here? So I came on, I did that, built that recording program and I just never left. You know, like that was something I had done before too.
Speaker 1:In in in MoVal I was um working with the school district. I also worked in a couple afterschool programs and working with youth was something really important to me. But I got away from that Um. And then this opportunity falls on my lap and I realized how much I really like, loved it, um, that might even be you know kind of why I started rapping to some extent. When I started taking it seriously, I was like I can make an impact this way.
Speaker 1:Pac has a quote, he says something like I may not be the one who changes the world, but I'll spark the mind that does. And that's sort of my philosophy too. Doing this work allows me to be involved in the future change makers of our country, of our world. So, yeah, I got that opportunity, um, and I just never left, man.
Speaker 1:I really quickly moved up and was able to. I realized every time I moved up I'm making like exponential change. Right, and when I started I'm working like one-on-one with kids and I'm making a little impact, and then, not long after that, I got a group of kids and now I got a whole site of, like you know, 20, 30 kids and now I I managed several sites. So, and you know I didn't make those decisions, you know, lightly, because it was hard to make those decisions right um, to step away from working one on one with kids when you're really feeling the impact to now managing some sites where now every kid has a dice, you know, and now I get to help 70 to a hundred kids have their own dice, is going to help them become, you know, great young men and young women.
Speaker 4:So that's what's up. So you essentially went from one-on-one to casting a bigger net for yeah that's growth, that's growth. She said every kid has a dice. Yeah, that's growth. She said every kid has a dice. Yeah, that's dope. So what is your best memory so far on this new journey? With helping.
Speaker 1:Oh man, that's, that's a hard one because there are so many, but I do. I put together this leadership camp that I do annually and I take basically three like classes of kid. Right, there's the kids that for sure, you know our leaders. They come into your club, they come into your space, you know they're a leader, they know they're a leader. The kid who is on the fence, right, who could easily get like the streets want them, because the streets see they're a leader. And oftentimes the street sees leaders before we do as adults or teachers or parents. But the streets they always catch that and they're like, oh, this is someone who can help us expand. So the kid who's on the fence, and then the kid who has leadership potential and has no idea Right, they don't think that they'll ever be a leader, they don't see it in themselves, they're not going for these opportunities. And I invite these kids up.
Speaker 1:We go to Big Bear, we got cabins, we do all these cool activities and part of what we do is what we started doing was this like passing of the torch. So we have these established leaders, the ones that everyone knows as leaders, and then we have these incoming leaders and they literally like pass a candle, they pass a flame to their candle and we give speeches and we did this and we had a kid who was like uh, kind of set off, like this domino effect. This kid was like look, I, I don't have a parent, I don't have a dad, I don't have a like a father figure in my life. But, like I, I did get one when I got you. And this is a kid who's like coming to me every day and he's like hey man, I, I just asked out a girl today. I was like cool. And hey man, I, I like I got good grades.
Speaker 1:I was like, I mean, that's what's up, right, and it's really easy to sometimes forget to to give that a little more, um, attention, because you know, again, I'm dealing with like 60 kids and, like these small, they sometimes feel like small things. But then in context, right, I hear like, oh, he's telling me things like I'm his father and I never connected those things until I heard that and I was like I didn't even know he didn't have a father figure, he never shared that with me, so this first time he shares this and I'm like, oh, wow, bro, I started crying. I couldn't help but cry man, like, and then another kid's like yeah, I also don't have a father, but you have shown me what a father can be. And I'm like, oh, all right, no, I'm not crying, you know what I mean. And like, everyone starts crying, everyone has this story. That's like that.
Speaker 1:And I'm really being told the impact I'm making, because often working with youth it's a thankless job. You know what I mean. You don't do this to get thank yous or to be remembered, because if you're doing it for that, you're wasting your time. Sometimes the youth don't even make that connection until 10 years down the line. Right, but to be in a room and be stuck in a room where I'm hearing these things about me, it's hard to hear good things about yourself. You know what I mean. We live in a society where that doesn't always happen and I essentially have every kid that I care about, everyone that I go to. I go to work for these kids every day, essentially, and they're all telling me this impact I'm making. I was like, oh okay, yeah, I'm doing the right thing, I'm in the right field, and that was an amazing film. That's what's up, man.
Speaker 1:What is the importance for community for you? You know there's. We can complain about a lot of things. I'm guilty of that. I complain about a lot of things too. But eventually we got to like decide, are we going to complain or are we going to try to make a difference? And I was already doing a lot of work in this community.
Speaker 1:I thought I was, I felt like I was, and I met someone, a homie of mine, and he essentially was like look, let me show you some other ways you could be making a difference. And when he sort of opened this door to me, I realized I'm really not doing as much as I think I am. There's people out here doing 10 times as much. I just need to learn like how. And he showed me some different ways, how. And yeah, I sort of got hooked Right.
Speaker 1:It's addicting, especially when I look back at in my youth some of the bad things I did. Man, you know, I got caught up in the streets. My parents were working hard to provide for me and my siblings, and for us that meant them having a job in LA. That meant my mom was waking up at 4 am and she's not getting home till 7 pm, right, my pops was working nights in LA, so he sleep all day and doesn't wake up till 9 PM to go to work at 10 PM and then get home Not not until I were back from school. So they were there. You know they were providing, but there wasn't a lot of interaction. And again, the streets they see things like that, they see that and they know like this is an opportunity for us to move in and I got pulled into some of that stuff too.
Speaker 1:And part of my interest in in giving back to the community is just making up for some of the things that I did and I didn't always get caught. You know what I'm saying. But it's not about atonement for things that I got caught for right. It's like making things right because it's just integrity right, even if no one else knew that I did these things. I know I did these things. So giving back to the community is an opportunity to try to make some of those things right and then also just be a mentor, because I didn't have one. You know what I mean and I wonder what would my life have been like if I had my own dice when I was a kid, if someone took me under their wing in a positive way? Now people took me under their wing, but not in no positive way yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I got to know this because I need, need it. Will we ever get another king dice album?
Speaker 1:uh, that's a great question. If I, if I come, if I hmm, if I come up with another project, it's going to have to be like special, it's gonna have to call to me, it's gonna have to speak to me. Um, I've explored the idea whether that's like a, um, a beat tape, which I don't think I've ever done a beat tape um, I'm not opposed to hearing the right and I've still been producing, like that's one thing I've never stopped doing right trying to rob at gmailcom come on now.
Speaker 1:You already know what it is you already know I'm gonna send you something, um, but yeah, whether it's a beat tape or I've explored some really cool projects, ideas I've even started working on some and just kind of I don't know, it's just got to. It's got to be something that really keeps me connected and grounded and I really, really want to do Because at this point I'm really happy with what I've accomplished- as you should be.
Speaker 4:Thank you those two albums classics.
Speaker 1:Like I want to be able to be 80 or 90 or something and look back on my life and be like this I'm happy with every decision I made and I feel that way now. So in the moment there's nothing really speaking to me, but I'm always open.
Speaker 4:Do you have a working title?
Speaker 1:Uh oh, this will be like an exclusive. Now, I'm not sure if this is going to come out. I doubt it, but I don't have a working title. But I can tell you the concept of the project. Okay, so it was a. The concept was like you take all of these horror concepts right, like a werewolf, zombie, ghost, maybe monsters or whatever, and each song I had on the project was in reference to one of these things, but a modern explanation. For example, right, the song that might let's just say it was called Ghosts was about ghosting people, right. So it's not necessarily about a phantom or a ghoul or something like that. It's about like when to let people go, and the concept is ghosts, right. And then there's people go and the concept is ghosts, right. And then there's one where maybe the concept's like a werewolf, right, and it's like about having that dog in you. How sometimes you got to remind yourself I got that dog in me, right, so it's, and then so on and so forth.
Speaker 2:I I'm still all this you're more than welcome.
Speaker 1:You're more than welcome. I had the vampires who were like the bloodsuckers in your life. That just take from you. Um, I got pretty far into the project and and a lot of it is written. None of it's recorded, but again, I just kind of lost interest in it. So I'm not sure, I'm not sure, I'm not sure that's the short answer you're a fucking genius.
Speaker 2:Is that a temporary loss, like? Like where you distract this, or you couldn't put the passion in it, or and you feel, like you, you'll find it when, when the time comes back?
Speaker 1:I hope so. You know, a lot of times it's, it's just that life gets in the way man life is yes, yeah, life be life man, I bought a house. You know, owning a house is hard yes yes, yes, we're not gonna go down that road right, going from being able to be like, hey, I got a problem, my ac, come fix it. To like, oh, I got a problem, I say I gotta fix it yeah and figure out and learn how to do it like.
Speaker 1:So I've been just experiencing life and, uh, it's been distracted, that's been the distraction life does life yeah, you still look excited talking about it, like it's still in there. I mean, yeah, you might we might have a flute flute album too.
Speaker 4:I just walk the earth playing the flute so what advice would you give to anyone falling in your footsteps?
Speaker 1:oh man, uh, jump in both feet same time. Do it I. I don't regret anything. Um, I really feel like I have the life that I that I deserve. Um I set out to do accomplish a lot of things that I that I have, you know going on tour, starting a label, meeting amazing people like you, included.
Speaker 1:Um appreciate that my journey has taken me, like in a mate, to amazing places that other people they'll they'll struggle for or strive for their entire life, and may not accomplish those things. So, yeah, I and I think I owe all of that to just trusting in myself and jumping in. So, um, yeah, if you want to follow in those footsteps, do it for sure.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if you want to follow in those footsteps. Do it For sure. So what is your favorite Royal Gambling Club memory?
Speaker 1:Oh, wow. I have a lot of great memories. Most of them have to do with our showcase. So one cool thing that we did is, every year, because our roster would change, things would change on the label we would do like an RGC showcase right, and it's something that I sort of picked up from South by Southwest. There's a lot of showcases, and one thing that we would do I want to say 2015 may have been our first RGC set, and it was at Common Ground, and Common Ground was at a bar called the Vibe in Riverside, which used to be a Coyote Ugly, and a Coyote Ugly is a type of bar where the girls are on top of the bar standing up there dancing and pouring drinks.
Speaker 1:So because of that, there was a section of the bar that was made to stand up on, and I remember going to a set maybe a month or two before our set, and people were, someone stood up on the bar and I was like that shit was dope.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was crazy, and I was like I'm doing that during my set. So during the RGC set, 2015 was the first time I stood on the bar and that was an amazing memory for me because we you know, the whole set was cool we had. We had everyone on the label at the time do their own set, do their songs like their main songs. But there was a part where we kind of like hit the lights and I think DJ Calligraphy, who was the DJ at Common Ground for the longest, he helped me by hitting the lights at a certain point and this is in between songs and when the lights came back on it went off and I was on the stage and when it came back on on, I was on the other side of the crowd on the bar. That's dope um and that was fire.
Speaker 4:That was like an amazing time, one of my best memories ever I'm gonna tell you my one of my, uh, most memorable memories of you. We were doing a show at the mission tobacco lounge and, um, I just remember you got there maybe like 10 or 20 minutes right before we were supposed to go on stage and you walked up and your hand was wrapped and I go, what happened? You go, I just had to fuck somebody up and I said you said it so nonchalantly and it just made me go what the fuck like? Because it was something like. It was almost like you're like oh, I just got some coffee. But the, the look on your face was like he's serious, he's not bullshitting. But I remember it because I've seen all different sides of you.
Speaker 4:But that one was just straight up, like took care of some business, let's get the business. And I fucked with it because it was straight up. It was like just had to fuck somebody up and you had your whole fist wrapped. But the effortlessness in it was kind of like hey, nigga, don't fuck with Dice. That was what I took from it Because you were like all right, we still got a show to do. But I remember that it always stood out because it was just to me. It's the all different sides of dice like, but it's to me a dope side to see because I don't think everyone gets to see this side well, let me say some.
Speaker 1:You know, sometimes you gotta pop out. Sometimes this music industry puts you in situations and you just gotta be ready. I mean, kids, don't do that. No, don't don't.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's not it's just to say sometimes you gotta stand on business, and I saw that in your face. You weren't. It wasn't that you were looking for the smoke, you just had to let somebody know like yeah, that's how I took it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how I took it exactly.
Speaker 4:I was gonna say kids do exactly that. Defend yourself, defend yourself for sure but it was like I said, the way you reacted was just kind of like oh, get some coffee or something like it was that energy, but it was like. But the look on your face was like it's time you just got pop out and shoot niggas, like so, um, I would usually look over to des, but des isn't here. Shout out to des, um, because she always she has her number one her criteria and she doesn't hear that on her list.
Speaker 4:She feels some type of way, but we got to know what is your top five? Dead or alive, mc.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is such a hard question. This is such a hard question.
Speaker 2:It's not hard, it's your list. Okay, no pressure.
Speaker 1:Because I was looking at it like is this? You know, am I thinking technical rappers Technique?
Speaker 2:Am I thinking about like impactful? To me Am. I thinking about what we would all agree are like just the best.
Speaker 4:No, you're thinking about what matters to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what matters to you and all. You can only listen to five people. Who are those five people? Because I feel like your top five can be the five people you're going to listen to no matter what. So who are your top five? So?
Speaker 1:I feel like I have to combine all those things.
Speaker 2:It's going to have to be a little bit of like impact a little bit of like importance, but I would say, um, jay-z, hold on, we're going, thank you, are we?
Speaker 4:going one to five or five. Can I get a gun shot? Specific order. Are we not going order? No, okay, can I get a gun shot? Because no one ever uses.
Speaker 1:He said jay there we go, there we go. All right, jay-z um eminem yes okay um Jay-Z Eminem. Yes, andre 3000. Yes.
Speaker 2:I like that one.
Speaker 1:So you said 3000, not OutKast, that's true.
Speaker 4:That's true. They try to say OutKast as a whole, but yeah, I can't give it to OutKast as a whole.
Speaker 1:I mean I like Big Boi, but he ain't never really touched my heart, Never.
Speaker 2:That's different than what you said. No, I say the same shit.
Speaker 4:I ain't never said oh man, big boy went off. You say this. I ain't never heard anybody say man, I'm really looking forward to that big boy album well, he says this. You say it like big boy's just trashed, because I tell you, right now, big boy put out a flute album.
Speaker 1:That shit is going brick right, right, right, well, yeah ain't nobody talking about it don't nobody want to hear big boy on a piccolo speaker box love below because we bought that for love below but even andre's flute album is nominated for something.
Speaker 4:I'm saying a big boy, try that shit, fuck, okay, anyway.
Speaker 1:Um man, I'm, really I'm. I'm on number five, right? Yeah, no, four four you got two left all right, you can give a six if you want, uh, I'm gonna say kendrick lamar okay kendrick lamar um which version? Um, I want to say like right now?
Speaker 4:no, okay, right now. He's west coasting. Right now, yeah, the west coast renaissance is a full effect and I'm here for it.
Speaker 1:Um, he got that killer in him right now, for sure, for sure. He's blood in the water man. He really on, like some great white shark stuff right now it's killing me. Um, right, come on man. Um, and I want to say there's got to be somebody sort of newer um, not new, but newer that has been impactful. And I'm gonna say toby and wigway, okay. Okay, I'll fuck with that. I'll fuck with that. He's a dope and what he stands for is is fire. I'll fuck with toby. I agree, but if I did say six in my heart, in my heart of hearts keep going.
Speaker 1:Oh well, I could probably go all day, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna definitely have to throw sugar free in there, because I'm a west coast for sure. Pomona, right, come on now smoking on that dojo as I come on, man smell my finger man there's things that sugar free has said that I've incorporated into my personal philosophy, like since, since, like I was a little kid and I probably will forever.
Speaker 2:So like you told me times I got my ass. People listen to sugar free when I wasn't supposed to man.
Speaker 1:But is it worth it though?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I still play that shit today.
Speaker 4:All right, so what are your future ventures and projects?
Speaker 1:Um, Hmm. Well, I want to say I know I wish I did know, because I think it's a great time to have a great answer, but I don't. I want to say a lot of people have been encouraging me to explore politics, local politics especially.
Speaker 4:You should.
Speaker 1:Possibly in the future. Right now I don't know if right now is a good time for that, but maybe politics in the future.
Speaker 2:I'm going to have a you come on to Mo though.
Speaker 1:I'm actually out here. I'm in the San Antonio Pass area, so I live in Banning. Okay, so maybe one day politics so I can continue to make a difference. Right, I want to make a difference, but the thing that keeps me from really jumping into politics headfirst is the red tape. Right now, when I want to make a difference, all I have to do is have the wherewithal to get it done. Nobody stops me, but dice. But when it comes to politics, there's all this bureaucracy and red tape and other things that stop you and it's slow and I don't like that Right? So, maybe, politics, I would say I have a bucket list of things I just want to accomplish.
Speaker 1:I want to write a book for kids, so it seems kind of random, but again, for me it boils down to when I'm 80 years old and I'm looking back at life. Am I going to be happy? Am I going to be like I accomplished everything I want to accomplish and I want to have a lasting impact on youth? For right now, I feel like I'm in a season of just legacy. That's what my life's all about right now. Is what's my legacy going to be?
Speaker 1:I don't have kids of my own, so when I think about legacy, I think about ways that I have a lasting impact when I'm gone. So that's where the children's book comes in and maybe politics comes in, maybe a project, I'm not sure. I recently was helping a youth that used to be a mentee of mine and now he's an adult and he's a filmmaker and I helped him, like, finish a documentary. Oh, that's what's up. So I got into a little bit of filmmaking and that's exciting. I really don't turn down anything like if it's dope, if it's creative, if it sounds fun, I'm pretty much down for it.
Speaker 1:So ray tron rob at gmailcom right, for sure I was just throwing it out there we're gonna have to come, man, you have to come through and we're going to have to go through some beats.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think that's how we get something out of both of them. Yeah, because the whole time Kev, I'm over here like he pressuring Dice for an album, and we've been talking to this nigga for over two years.
Speaker 4:I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:he got amnesia, right right 2025.
Speaker 4:I just things can change we hope so um, what I will say is, when you said that, I instantly thought if your political slogan could be but I don't know, they'll be like it's not appropriate roll with dice or sometimes you just got it and just leave it dot, dot, dot, and then people are gonna fill in the blanks, right, right.
Speaker 2:We're not going to say it, because if we do run, they might run this back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I'll vote. I'll get all the neighbors, we'll be cool.
Speaker 2:Sometimes We'll be cool.
Speaker 4:But in closing I want to say, man, I think it's dope, it's beautiful to see what you're doing. I've always rooted for you, always believe that I said you're a genius level talent. I really hope we do get this dice project because even when you know McFly Lounge coming to you, when you said that and I said, dude, like it didn't even feel right hearing you say that, when you said like this might be the last, I'm like no, no, no, no, no. When you said like this might be the last, I'm like no, no, no, no. We want to see future, future things.
Speaker 4:Because you're one of the people in the ie that I can say is unique your sound, the flow, the energy, the stage presence, um, the fact that, like you're always willing to, uh, to, to give advice and and um, kind of give little seeds of knowledge, that to me, it's helped me even when I started approaching writing and everything like that. So when I know that you're doing that for the youth, I feel like it's only necessary that you get your flowers, and I'm glad that you were here today so you can, we could at least give you flowers. Uh, I, I wish you nothing but the best in your future endeavors. Again I say I hope we get that project. Um, uh again, uh, ladies and gentlemen, give a round of applause and put some respect on his motherfucking name. This has been talk your shit with king dice thank you, yeah, I appreciate you like, subscribe and comment.
Speaker 4:All that shit. We love you Till next time, peace. Peace.
Speaker 5:This has been another episode of the Heavyweight Podcast. Talk your shit. One thing about me, baby I'm showing up every week to see who coming to talk their shit. Y'all better show up with me. See you there, bye.
